Is it time to ban LED Headlights

Jonnycoupe said:
Adaptive lights with steering had very little to do with the issue here, if anything they will help.

the tone of the”dragged” doesn’t sit well with me, I don’t know you had the monopoly on discussion topics?
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My comments were in response to Fox asking how it was possible to tell between someone dazzling you with regular lights and newer matrix, etc. lights and I mentioned one of the clues being you can see when the other car is approaching the more dynamic nature of the beam patterns due to things like adapting to steering angles (as well as other aspects of how they function differently to regular lights). Then other people started taking that into the territory of corner light functions which wasn't what I was talking about originally at all... and then accusing me of being confused when I'm trying to bridge between 2 contexts...

It is like no one can follow context here...
 
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petridish said:
I'm sure they're marketed that way as well. Even if not I'm sure bad habits step in quickly. Good on you for still dipping them!
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You'd definitely get that impression from the marketing, and when it works it is great, but unfortunately they aren't a comprehensively perfect solution and do require the driver to pay attention to what their lights are doing!
 
Rroff said:
My comments were in response to Fox asking how it was possible to tell between someone dazzling you with regular lights and newer matrix, etc. lights and I mentioned one of the clues being you can see when the other car is approaching the more dynamic nature of the beam patterns due to things like adapting to steering angles (as well as other aspects of how they function differently to regular lights). Then other people started taking that into the territory of corner light functions which wasn't what I was talking about originally at all... and then accusing me of being confused when I'm trying to bridge between 2 contexts...

It is like no one can follow context here...
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It’s like no one knows the definition of context too.

FWIW my 2011 BMW has the fastest reacting auto dip beams of anything I’ve driven. The cornering lights are also very useful too. Can see much more into upcoming corners.

Thinks like broken headlamp level sensors can also cause issues with even dipped beam being too high
 
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Wife has a Grandland with the 'Intelilux' matrix headlight things. She's had to turn it off as she just gets constantly flashed / full beamed by drivers coming the other way.
 
Simon said:
FWIW my 2011 BMW has the fastest reacting auto dip beams of anything I’ve driven.
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I have an N-Vision spec Qashqai which was the halo trim level for Nissan's driving assists, etc. in 2017 - it has impressive dipping capabilities - very fast, handles situations like where the central reservation partially obscures headlights or where you can see the oncoming light from headlights before seeing the vehicle, but sadly "undipping" is the opposite with a less than ideal delay before it resumes to main beams and some false positives.

EDIT: It also has the worst steering of almost anything I've driven and I have no idea why I've kept it beyond it is surprisingly practical and I like the interior balance of understated minimal but not basic.
 
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Uprating of reversing leds - with the clocks going back, am reminded how poor these are on audi b9 - they seem to be woefully underpowered to see what you are doing
interior lights which seem to be a 6000K are not very pleasant either, just looks cold.
 
jpaul said:
Uprating of reversing leds - with the clocks going back, am reminded how poor these are on audi b9 - they seem to be woefully underpowered to see what you are doing
interior lights which seem to be a 6000K are not very pleasant either, just looks cold.
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I can't remember what make/model but was shopping a few days ago and there was a new car with reverse lights which were just a sliver vertically and not very bright - at first I thought they weren't working properly before realising that was it.
 
came up with a potential weak reversing led solution - using rear fogs :
subsequent aftermarket research showed that reverse bulbs appear to be expensive, often fail quickly or give 'computer' errors;
it seems amazing if the control circuitry is accurately measuring current consumption, say, to trigger errors.
 
jpaul said:
came up with a potential weak reversing led solution - using rear fogs :
subsequent aftermarket research showed that reverse bulbs appear to be expensive, often fail quickly or give 'computer' errors;
it seems amazing if the control circuitry is accurately measuring current consumption, say, to trigger errors.
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How do you think cars know bulbs have blown ?
 
jpaul said:
came up with a potential weak reversing led solution - using rear fogs :
subsequent aftermarket research showed that reverse bulbs appear to be expensive, often fail quickly or give 'computer' errors;
it seems amazing if the control circuitry is accurately measuring current consumption, say, to trigger errors.
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And not legal as red not white, sounds like a weak 'solution' to me.
 
jpaul said:
it seems amazing if the control circuitry is accurately measuring current consumption, say, to trigger errors.
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My 595 will error on the dash if a DRL bulb has blown (or you put an LED in its place) reason is - it’s expecting a 1.5a bulb and I think the led bulbs are only .5a - edit. The led bulbs do work however.
 
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Mobius 1 said:
My 595 will error on the dash if a DRL bulb has blown (or you put an LED in its place) reason is - it’s expecting a 1.5a bulb and I think the led bulbs are only .5a - edit. The led bulbs do work however.
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Fiat and electronics... I think I'd just have the check mapped out if possible, or it will never end once it reaches high miles lol

I had an Abarth 500 years back which refused to start one day because it's earth wasn't 100%. That was annoying, about 3 months after it broke down due to the gear linkage bush popping out.
 
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LED bulbs are very low resistance, so the “car” won’t recognise a bulb being fitted and will throw a “bulb out” warning (if LED’s aren’t standard).
Hence why a lot come with built in resistors.
 
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