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I was going to say looks like a DC 10 was watching some air crash investigation videos earlier they were nicknamed the "flying coffin" and for a reason
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UPS plane crash
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I was going to say looks like a DC 10 was watching some air crash investigation videos earlier they were nicknamed the "flying coffin" and for a reason
If not causing the loss of other aircraft - the more famous being Concorde.
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crazy to see that unfold like that, rip to the people who lost their lives in that accident
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That dashcam footage makes the plane look like some Kaiju just tossed it, crazy
Death toll is now up to 12.
www.abc.net.au
UPS plane death toll rises, authorities say engine fell off before crash
Louisville Mayor Craig Greenberg has confirmed the death toll has risen to at least 12, with several people still missing.
www.abc.net.au
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Juan Brown’s latest update post-NTSB briefing:
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Well, that makes it 11 out of 200 built lost in accident. I’d say that as far as modern commercial aircraft go, 5.5% is a pretty hefty loss rate.
Jeeeeez, on that first one you can clearly see the left engine entirely missing. I saw elsewhere that the centre engine was ingesting that fire you can see around the left wing, making the centre engine surge.... so they're down to one engine just a few feet off the ground. Christ.7 dead now, 3 on the plane and 4 on the ground. Poor guys didn't even have a chance.
In nearly 40 years
It would be better to work it out as a percentage of the number of flights completed over the 40 year period. If 200 went up on day one and then 11 failed to return then yes that’s a pretty hefty loss rate unless it’s 1940 and then it’s pretty good!
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That is over a small sample size however. 737 is around 2% I think. DC10 which this is based off was around 3% and operated during a time where safety wasn't as good as what it is now and also small numbers of around 400 compared to 11000 with the 737.
Something serious has been neglected for an engine to fall off during take off. That isn't a fault of the plane really. The last accident with this craft that resulted in fatalities was 16 years ago.
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It would be interesting to see when incidents happened over time on a graph, say.
Aviation is meant to be one of the best industries for safety improvements. But I guess it would be difficult to
infer anything from a simple line graph.
It doesn't change anything for those who are lost. I hope they find out what happened.
Aviation is meant to be one of the best industries for safety improvements. But I guess it would be difficult to
infer anything from a simple line graph.
It doesn't change anything for those who are lost. I hope they find out what happened.
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I’m just thankful it was a cargo flight - a passenger one doesn’t bare thinking about.
Boeing recommends MD-11 operators suspend flights | Flightradar24 Blog
Boeing recommends airlines ground their MD-11 fleets while additional analysis is performed following initial findings after UPS crash.
www.flightradar24.com
14 dead now
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Worth noting there that the passenger versions of the aircraft were retired over a decade ago and the cargo versions are being phased out too so the lack of incidents will have been affected by the lack of planes to have an incident.
Now the FAA have grounded the MD-11 that may well be the planes done now regardless of what the investigation concludes.
As it's an FAA directive FedEx and UPS will now be able to claim off their insurance for the downtime which means from a purely financial POV as they were planning on scrapping the planes imminently anyway it makes sense to not even waste money doing the inspections (and any required remediations/modifications the FAA dictates) required to put them back into service and just accelerate the replacement program.
100 percent.
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They will not be missed.