Your bad driving encounters/irritations

Rroff said:
If you mean assists are falsely triggering bringing people to a stop, I've never really seen that behaviour in the type of situations people are talking about aside from maybe some of the cheaper Chinese, etc. brands like the Maxus vans we sometimes get as hire vehicles at work :( the closest I've ever come to experiencing it is occasionally getting a warning tone in the rain or other conditions which can sometimes mess with sensors but not with a resulting intervention.
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Ive had 2 or 3 times when my Audi has slammed on the breaks (but never come to a full stop I dont think) for completely inappropriate reasons like pedestrians on the pavement or going around the right if a car ahead waiting to turn left. So its not just Chinese cars.
 
Minstadave said:
Ive had 2 or 3 times when my Audi has slammed on the breaks (but never come to a full stop I dont think) for completely inappropriate reasons like pedestrians on the pavement or going around the right if a car ahead waiting to turn left. So its not just Chinese cars.
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Had it happen twice on my Model Y, one time for misses. Turned off lane assist/centering as wasn’t fit for purpose in anything but most ideal conditions, ie clear sunny day, uncomplicated motorway. At night it’s genuinely dangerous. That’s what you get without LiDAR. Maybe once the EU allows it and vast amounts of meta data is made available, I don’t know but right now it’s just a gimmick. By the time the laws allows full self driving I expect the current tech will be EOL anyway.
 
Minstadave said:
Ive had 2 or 3 times when my Audi has slammed on the breaks (but never come to a full stop I dont think) for completely inappropriate reasons like pedestrians on the pavement or going around the right if a car ahead waiting to turn left. So its not just Chinese cars.
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Yeah but causing the vehicle to actually come to a stop in the situations like jpaul was referring to is pretty rare in my opinion.
 
that's (aaceptable) phantom braking - ADAS systems hopefully distinguish situation where someone pulls out of a side-road where they would brake,
from someone not stopping entering a roundabout in front of you on basis of steering angle, speed ...
 
What is it with the driver that pulls into a outside lane of a dual carriageway because they are taking a right at the roundabout 2 - 15 miles away and cannot even take a hint when hundreds of cars undertake them.


These people should be forced to watch Loose Women for a week.

What was a small trend not that long ago, is now turning into a more regular occurrence, when XXXBHP decides to pull out as you go around a roundabout and semi blind Doris thinks it must be clear because the other cars floored it and her 22bhp Alto should be nippy enough.

Strange one noticed recentlyish is the driver that sticks to your bumper in the 30 - 40mph section*, but as soon as a national speed limit comes up they are no-where to be seen.


*I usually slow down when this happens, or quite a a few times, come to a compete stop with no indication and then put the hazards on.
 
aVdub said:
Strange one noticed recentlyish is the driver that sticks to your bumper in the 30 - 40mph section*, but as soon as a national speed limit comes up they are no-where to be seen.


*I usually slow down when this happens, or quite a a few times, come to a compete stop with no indication and then put the hazards on.
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I had this yesterday morning going through a 40mph average limit as the DC was down to one lane and the car was basically in my boot.
Lane 2 opens up before the average limit ends but they move out and start accelerating, pass the NSL sign and I speed up and overtake them next time I check my mirror they were that far behind me they must have been doing 60 at a push all the way down the DC.

Boggles my mind, why be in that much of a rush somewhere where you can't physically go anywhere and then go the complete opposite way when it's actually safe to make some progress.
 
People who block merge in turn lanes


They really grind my gears. I feel like getting out the car getting out a chalk board and telling them why they exist
 
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tom_e said:
I had this yesterday morning going through a 40mph average limit as the DC was down to one lane and the car was basically in my boot.
Lane 2 opens up before the average limit ends but they move out and start accelerating, pass the NSL sign and I speed up and overtake them next time I check my mirror they were that far behind me they must have been doing 60 at a push all the way down the DC.

Boggles my mind, why be in that much of a rush somewhere where you can't physically go anywhere and then go the complete opposite way when it's actually safe to make some progress.
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See that on a few country lanes we take often that have NSL and a few villages with a 20mph and 30mph limit.

Usually will have a Doris or Anabel looking over the steering wheel and stuck to my bumper through the slower zones, but as soon as I open it up and start to enjoy apex to apex driving*, they are no-where to be seen, but enter next village and there she is....

*Open and flat roads..Like the Military Road near Rye.

I've now got a decent rear dashcam and cannot wait to gather the family around to watch these, as well as Brad when he's got to reverse his 3 tonne Merc because I've come to a sudden tailgate stop :D
 
DJMK4 said:
People who block merge in turn lanes


They really grind my gears. I feel like getting out the car getting out a chalk board and telling them why they exist
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That boils my ****

What happened when that little old man/woman/girl gets into their APC and decides it's a fight to the death in the zone marked MERGE in TURN.
 
aVdub said:
That boils my ****

What happened when that little old man/woman/girl gets into their APC and decides it's a fight to the death in the zone marked MERGE in TURN.
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Yeh,

I always wind the window down when i see this, utilise all available road space until the last point

just causes tailbacks if people stick to one lane
 
DJMK4 said:
People who block merge in turn lanes


They really grind my gears. I feel like getting out the car getting out a chalk board and telling them why they exist
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Had one yesterday. Followed staggered formation as usual, just for a Qashqai attempt to jump in at the very last minute from my right. I kept my slow pace and continued. Funny enough I managed to stall the car once in front of them delaying them further lol.
 
LowEndTorque said:
Had one yesterday. Followed staggered formation as usual, just for a Qashqai attempt to jump in at the very last minute from my right. I kept my slow pace and continued. Funny enough I managed to stall the car once in front of them delaying them further lol.
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So was the Qashqai doing it correctly then!
 
Minstadave said:
Ive had 2 or 3 times when my Audi has slammed on the breaks (but never come to a full stop I dont think) for completely inappropriate reasons like pedestrians on the pavement or going around the right if a car ahead waiting to turn left. So its not just Chinese cars.
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My BMW has done the same with pedestrians, Well joggers or fast moving pedestrians. It thinks they are going to continue moving into the road so hits the brakes. Whilst it does make your heart go I'd rather that then actually hit one if they do keep running out
 
mattyg said:
So was the Qashqai doing it correctly then!
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Nope. They were behind me all the time on my right. Just when the lane started to merge, when the arrow starts to point right they lunged forward to get ahead.

Edit: I stalled because I tried to accelerate in 2nd gear at very low speed whilst trying to stay away from them.
 
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LowEndTorque said:
Nope. They were behind me all the time on my right. Just when the lane started to merge, when the arrow starts to point right they lunged forward to get ahead.
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One of the tricky ones with this - I like to keep a good gap to the car in front of me - sometimes in merge in turn situations some people, i.e. the kind that sit at like half the highway code recommended minimum distance, want to accelerate into that gap rather than merge in between myself and the car behind, if I close up more it puts them off doing that but I don't like to be that close.

Also merge in turn awareness and the updates to the highway code in respect to it have been really badly done - there are a lot of older generations still under the impression the right thing to do is to form an orderly queue early because that is the thinking of when they were brought up (even though most of them only live to the spirit of it when it suits them) and what the highway code kind of generally encouraged in older implementations (there wasn't specific guidance in older versions).
 
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Rroff said:
One of the tricky ones with this - I like to keep a good gap to the car in front of me - sometimes in merge in turn situations some people, i.e. the kind that sit at like half the highway code recommended minimum distance, want to accelerate into that gap rather than merge in between myself and the car behind, if I close up more it puts them off doing that but I don't like to be that close.
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I was close to car ahead on my right, not bumper close, maybe 2-3 feet. It was busy as expected at 5 pm. :)
 
mattyg said:
Ah I pictured the Merge the other way offside to nearside rather than nearside to offside
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Oh sorry, arrow point left*.

The white box is roughly where the Qashqai was and I was where the VW Up is in this file photo. They lunged forward to block me at that point.

Hopefully that gives more context. Balancing act of trying not to make contact, plus 2nd gear and low speed caused me to stall.

My car has auto start which failed too. I did a manual start and moved on after flashing my indicators. Had no intention to road rage.

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