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Is there a difference between 5080s fe and 3rd party?

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I noticed the FE was out of stock at 909 and noticed overclockers were selling the phoenix 5080 for 950, is the card going to be better or worse than the fe edition? Will it have the same potential for overclocking etc?

Thanks in advance.
 
Some might argue the benefits of spending a lot more on a specific GPU such as a 5080, but unless you're heavily into benchmarks and performance tweaking? You're very unlikely to be able to tell the difference from card to card in actual gaming shy of there being a manufacturing fault or design related problem.

Those are both thankfully rare, buy the cheapest 5080 you can and undervolt it, it'll run cooler and boost higher.

Edit: I just noticed your old thread, upgrading from a 9070XT is a lot of money for poor performance uplift at around 10-15% on average. Outside of averages, there's even games such as pretty much the entire modern CoD library where a 9070XT will demolish a 5080.
 
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In real world performance there's next to no difference between third party cards and the founders edition.

The only thing that separates modern graphics cards is price, warranty, build quality and fan noise. Even gains in overclocking are minimal between cards too, regardless of how good the vrm's are etc as most hardware nowadays is running at close to the limit anyway.
 
is the card going to be better or worse than the fe edition?
Lower end models are normally on par with the FE (the cooler performance), but can be slightly better or worse, whereas mid tier models are better and upper tier models much better. TPU have some comparisons in their review of the FE and the Phoenix.
 
One thing that the FE is in most cases better than all AIBs on is build quality, only the very high end cards can be better in this regard.

Not everyone is bothered about that but for those who are, hard to beat the FE cards.
 
One thing that the FE is in most cases better than all AIBs on is build quality, only the very high end cards can be better in this regard.

Not everyone is bothered about that but for those who are, hard to beat the FE cards.
Snag with nvidia is they like messing about with novel stuff, like their weird PCB design and the separate PCIE connector.
 
One thing that the FE is in most cases better than all AIBs on is build quality, only the very high end cards can be better in this regard.

Not everyone is bothered about that but for those who are, hard to beat the FE cards.
Not all cases.

I won't touch a FE 5090 because of the power connector, Asus Astral for peace of mind.
 
Indeed they can but the monitoring software can give you advanced warning.
You know, if that works for you more power to your elbow. It'll certainly reduce the chances of damage if too much current is detected as you could just shut the machine down.

I just have an issue with having to do that, it shouldn't be necessary. The connector design and Nvidia's apparent disregard for electrical rules just doesn't sit good with me with the 4090 and 5090.

But if that doesn't bother you, have at it. Sometimes I can overthink things like this.
 
You know, if that works for you more power to your elbow. It'll certainly reduce the chances of damage if too much current is detected as you could just shut the machine down.

I just have an issue with having to do that, it shouldn't be necessary. The connector design and Nvidia's apparent disregard for electrical rules just doesn't sit good with me with the 4090 and 5090.

But if that doesn't bother you, have at it. Sometimes I can overthink things like this.
You are totally right in everything you say.

The 4XXX and 5XXX cards are very poor design and the power connector is awful.

Nvidia could have designed the 5090 to use normal 8 pin power connectors, a 2 slot cooler the same size as a 1080ti and a TDP of 275W and it would only have been about 10% slower than the current card.

If people don't believe the above they only have to look at a Titan V, I still have one of these and it is tiny compared to a 5090.
 
You are totally right in everything you say.

The 4XXX and 5XXX cards are very poor design and the power connector is awful.

Nvidia could have designed the 5090 to use normal 8 pin power connectors, a 2 slot cooler the same size as a 1080ti and a TDP of 275W and it would only have been about 10% slower than the current card.

If people don't believe the above they only have to look at a Titan V, I still have one of these and it is tiny compared to a 5090.
It really would be better with the traditional connection, just seems more robust. As I said though, I can overthink stuff like this and others have no problem with needing current monitoring software to get a heads up. It does allow a user to avoid catastrophic failure so is definitely worth having. It's kinda similar to when you remap a car, you need uprated parts when going to certain levels. This software is there for those who need an uprated set up to deal with the power.

BTW, welcome back man. I always liked reading your experiences with high end kit, you're the true definition of an enthusiast and I was always interested in what you had to say. So it's great to have that and you back again.
 
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