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Nvidia RTX 6000 series (codename Rubin)

MissChief said:
And the rest. A top level 5090 is that price and more. A 6090 will likely START at £3500.
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Yeah I reckon this is more likely tbh. Nvidia have seen people will pay 3k+ for GPUs that are a year into their life cycle. They won't leave money on the table. I think the 6800 will be about 2k as well.
 
RollerBall said:
Yeah I reckon this is more likely tbh. Nvidia have seen people will pay 3k+ for GPUs that are a year into their life cycle. They won't leave money on the table. I think the 6800 will be about 2k as well.
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This is AIB pricing. A 6090 FE will surely be between £2000 to £2500.
 
if the pricing and the shenanigans that nvidia pulled with the Blackwell 5000 series cards spill over into the 6000 series cards with sub par performance and even higher prices for meagre performance increases and crazy prices for high end cards like 5090 and with inadequate product line up from AMD and Intel then I can see PC gaming loosing even more market share to console gaming.

With Sony most probably deciding to keep exclusive games on their console for next round and most PC games are on consoles anyway I just don't see the point of PC gaming anymore, the difference between how PC games look vs consoles just don't see any point anymore in PC for gaming apart from some niche games. Most pc games are practically console ports now and graphics fidelity between them have narrowed and even if it was present buying a graphics card to take advantage of what pc can offer has become unbelievably expensive for the average gamer.

remember I am talking about what the average gamer thinks here, its just better to buy ps5 pro and laptop and get 90% of what you get if you spent £4000 on top end pc. I have a top spec PC but use my ps5 much more and over the next 10 years I don't even see physical media surviving. The games do look better on PC I am not arguing that, but what I am saying is the difference is not nigh and day and sitting 7ft away on large TV I hardly noticed anything. If Microsoft Xbox(project helix) and Sony new console allow windows or linus software to run on their console, then I just see large mass exodus from PC for many.

If things pan like I anticipate then NVidia is most probably solely responsible for this and their AI drive.
 
PC Gaming is dooooomed!

Console gaming is arguably better value, but it depends what one values the most. I agree for someone who just plays occasional FOMO AAA launches it's probably the best way. I'm personally not going to be swayed to console because of a Sony movie game.
 
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AMDPower said:
if the pricing and the shenanigans that nvidia pulled with the Blackwell 5000 series cards spill over into the 6000 series cards with sub par performance and even higher prices for meagre performance increases and crazy prices for high end cards like 5090 and with inadequate product line up from AMD and Intel then I can see PC gaming loosing even more market share to console gaming.

With Sony most probably deciding to keep exclusive games on their console for next round and most PC games are on consoles anyway I just don't see the point of PC gaming anymore, the difference between how PC games look vs consoles just don't see any point anymore in PC for gaming apart from some niche games. Most pc games are practically console ports now and graphics fidelity between them have narrowed and even if it was present buying a graphics card to take advantage of what pc can offer has become unbelievably expensive for the average gamer.

remember I am talking about what the average gamer thinks here, its just better to buy ps5 pro and laptop and get 90% of what you get if you spent £4000 on top end pc. I have a top spec PC but use my ps5 much more and over the next 10 years I don't even see physical media surviving. The games do look better on PC I am not arguing that, but what I am saying is the difference is not nigh and day and sitting 7ft away on large TV I hardly noticed anything. If Microsoft Xbox(project helix) and Sony new console allow windows or linus software to run on their console, then I just see large mass exodus from PC for many.

If things pan like I anticipate then NVidia is most probably solely responsible for this and their AI drive.
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OTOH, I feel the visual difference between regular RT/Raster and PT is night and day.

Stop spending money on each series to upgrade, it's cheaper.
 
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Noxia said:
PC Gaming is dooooomed!

Console gaming is arguably better value, but it depends what one values the most. I agree for someone who just plays occasional FOMO AAA launches it's probably the best way. I'm personally not going to be swayed to console because of a Sony movie game.
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They've been saying that for 20+ years though. We're still here.
 
Cooper said:
..except FE cards will continue to be unobtainium level products. If there is too much of a gap in pricing between FE and AIB cards, the scalpers bots move in and the auction site gets busy.
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Yup. The FE just acts as a ‘low’ MSRP anchor, e.g £2,499 for the 6090, when AIBs may start at £3,500. Nvidia will then only reference that £2,499 price throughout the whole generation. Pure marketing.
 
Noxia said:
PC Gaming is dooooomed!

Console gaming is arguably better value, but it depends what one values the most. I agree for someone who just plays occasional FOMO AAA launches it's probably the best way. I'm personally not going to be swayed to console because of a Sony movie game.
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PC Gaming is not dooooomed!


Mobile $108bn
PC $43bn
Console $45bn*
*Xbox One/X/S/Game Pass $23.5bn
*Switch/Switch 2 approx $6.8bn
*Playstation 4/5 approx $14.7bn

PC games market revenue is nearly 3 times bigger than Playstation 4/5 games revenue in 2025.

Console gaming is arguably better value? NOT! :o

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PlayStation 5 now runs PlayStation 3 games through RPCS3 on Linux PS5 Linux users are now testing RPCS3 on older firmware, with MotorStorm Pacific Rift
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I agreed with comment from PS3/PS4/PS5/PC owner CRB:

I play PS3 games on my Legion Go S. I suppose this is cool, but kind of sad this even has to be done. I bought several digital PS3 games when I had my PS3 on the PS Store. Where are those at? I didn't change my email or anything, so why can't I play those on my PS5? I couldn't even play them on my PS4. But guess what, I can play the very first game I bought on Steam, Half Life 2 on my current PC right now, 20 years later. This is one of the many reasons consoles are garbage.
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I am PC gamer played PC games for 32 years not going to be swayed to console because of a Sony movie game too.
 
AMDPower said:
if the pricing and the shenanigans that nvidia pulled with the Blackwell 5000 series cards spill over into the 6000 series cards with sub par performance and even higher prices for meagre performance increases and crazy prices for high end cards like 5090 and with inadequate product line up from AMD and Intel then I can see PC gaming loosing even more market share to console gaming.
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No I cant see PC lose market share to console. Remembered when how did PS5 owners reacted with PS5 Pro launch price? They were all shocked and outraged at very high price so PS5 Pro is not very successful product but it is very niche product very few people can afford to upgrade. My niece has a PC I build with my MSI RTX 3080 Suprim X graphic card, Dell PC laptop, Samsung Galaxy S25 mobile phone, Samsung Tab tablet, PS5 and Xbox Series X in her bedroom, Nintendo Switch in spare room and old Xbox One in living room. I can see majority of people will not upgrade and very few people will upgrade to Xbox Project Helix and Playstation 6 when it will cost between £1,000-£1500 in 2027 if RAM, SSD and CPU price will be still very high. Sony could raise PS6 game price to $80 or $100 to help funded big budget PS6 games.

With Sony most probably deciding to keep exclusive games on their console for next round and most PC games are on consoles anyway I just don't see the point of PC gaming anymore, the difference between how PC games look vs consoles just don't see any point anymore in PC for gaming apart from some niche games. Most pc games are practically console ports now and graphics fidelity between them have narrowed and even if it was present buying a graphics card to take advantage of what pc can offer has become unbelievably expensive for the average gamer.
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I dont think Sony will keep exclusive games on Playstation 6 alone, Sony cant do it when Playstation 6 will be the most expensive console in the history, they cant afford to lose lots of money. I hope Sony learn the lesson from Microsoft failures with Xbox One exclusive games and very successful Xbox Anywhere games and Xbox Game Pass.

I just don't see the point of console gaming anymore over the last 32 years.

remember I am talking about what the average gamer thinks here, its just better to buy ps5 pro and laptop and get 90% of what you get if you spent £4000 on top end pc. I have a top spec PC but use my ps5 much more and over the next 10 years I don't even see physical media surviving. The games do look better on PC I am not arguing that, but what I am saying is the difference is not nigh and day and sitting 7ft away on large TV I hardly noticed anything. If Microsoft Xbox(project helix) and Sony new console allow windows or linus software to run on their console, then I just see large mass exodus from PC for many.
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The PC game market revenue in 2025 is nearly 3 times bigger than Sony Playstation games revenue so I cant see people will use PS5 much more over the next 10 years when they buy fewer PS5 games compared to PC. My niece admitted to me that she actually used desktop PC much more than PS5, the path tracing graphic looked beautiful with DLSS and maxed graphics settings on RTX 3080 are much better than PS5.

I think my RTX 3080 will have very long life, I was really surprised 12 years old Maxwell GPUs like GTX 970 launched in 2014 are still capable to run latest modern DirectX 12 2026 games today like Resident Evil Requiem at 1080p with FSR enabled and low graphics settings. This game cant run on PS4 and Xbox One both launched back in 2013.


I wonder what the average mobile phone Android gamer think here? With Gamehub or GameNative app, they can connected to Steam, Epic Games and GOG to download/install PC games and run game on Android so they really dont need or wait many years to buy Android ported games from PC. Really surprised modern Android phones can run Resident Evil Requiem well at 720p with FSR enabled and low graphics settings.


Accorded to many reports Sony are very worried about upcoming Steam Machine, they see Valve as their biggest competitor, Valve generated more revenue on PC games on Steam than Sony does with Playstation 4/5 games on Playstation Store. They are very worried about Steam Machine running SteamOS to install games from Steam, Epic Games, GOG and others plus Xbox Project Helix hybrid PC console running Windows that can also install Steam, Epic Games, GOG and others to run PC games and apps are serious threat to Playstation 6's existence concerned the majority of Playstation 5 owners will swayed to PC rather than buy Playstation 6 console with very few exclusive games and maybe it could not able to run Windows or Linux to install Steam, Epic Games and GOG to run PC games.
 
What's any of that got to do with better value to a consumer of the occasional game? That was the context for value in that particular comment.
 
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I think the 6090 will be less than the 5090 at release.

This time around we're getting a new (smaller, cheaper) manufacturing process, new architecture. This will allow the die to be (much) smaller.

They won't have to release a 600W complicated heavy card. They can release a ~350W card with 16/24GB that will slightly outperform the 5090 in traditional rasterization and significantly outperform it in overall DLSS gaming due to software locked new DLSS modes etc.

Enhanced memory compression tech/software will also mean 16GB/24GB will be adequate for gaming and will drive costs down.

At least that's what I hope. I don't want to see a £3k 6090FE :cry:
 
Dave2150 said:
I think the 6090 will be less than the 5090 at release.

This time around we're getting a new (smaller, cheaper) manufacturing process, new architecture. This will allow the die to be (much) smaller.

They won't have to release a 600W complicated heavy card. They can release a ~350W card with 16/24GB that will slightly outperform the 5090 in traditional rasterization and significantly outperform it in overall DLSS gaming due to software locked new DLSS modes etc.

Enhanced memory compression tech/software will also mean 16GB/24GB will be adequate for gaming and will drive costs down.

At least that's what I hope. I don't want to see a £3k 6090FE :cry:
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I want whatever you had in your tea this morning!
 
Unfortunately I think Nvidia will divert most of the 6XXX chips towards their professional cards and keep the allocation for gaming small.

Doing the above will keep the 6090 prices very high even if it is cheaper to build than the 5090.

Nvidia never miss an opportunity to rip off gamers.
 
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