whats the general concensus with sudents ?

Rebelius said:
but a lot of students do support themselves and work for a living. Once you've spent three years cooking, cleaning, shopping and paying all the bills for yourself what more do you really need to know? apart from how to spend the extra £12k a year you end up with?
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Prime example of what Scuzi means.

The real working world isn't something you can prepare for easily.
 
Rebelius said:
but a lot of students do support themselves and work for a living. Once you've spent three years cooking, cleaning, shopping and paying all the bills for yourself what more do you really need to know? apart from how to spend the extra £12k a year you end up with?
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It's not so much the taking care of yourself bit, any half brained numpty can do that - it's fending for yourself in the big bad world of work. It's not that hard at all (career depending of course) but when students strut in thinking they can walk into a professional high paying role because they have a bit of paper, they are in for a shock. A lot of them don't seem to grasp the importance of experience.
 
I was under the impression that a lot of students who want to end up in this "big bad world of work" took vacations there during summer holidays and quite often spent a whole year there before graduating. Is that not the norm?
 
Rebelius said:
I was under the impression that a lot of students who want to end up in this "big bad world of work" took vacations there during summer holidays and quite often spent a whole year there before graduating. Is that not the norm?
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Not many. A small minority are ready for the positions they're aiming for after graduating. Well, that's presuming they are aiming high :p

Some students are realistic however, which I have no problem with at all.
 
Scuzi said:
It's not that hard at all (career depending of course) but when students strut in thinking they can walk into a professional high paying role because they have a bit of paper, they are in for a shock.
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I can't think of a single one of my friends at university who thought that. They may well exist, but I certainly didn't spend any time with them!
 
Scuzi said:
A lot of them do Mickey Mouse degrees whilst getting themselves into tens of thousands of debt only to come out the other end of the sausage machine and get stuck in a dead end job earning £21k a year. Yeah, the prospectus said you'd be earning £10000000000000000 a day but they talk crap.

In short, a lot of students are incredibly stupid.
And they smell.
And they are wasters.

Judging by the spelling, punctuation and grammar skills of degree level students who post on OcUK, I don't hold much hope for the future if those buck eejits are to be considered professionals.


Oh yeah, mature students get on my ****. Especially the ones that have never had a proper job. I hate them.
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Jez said:
Guess its jealousy of how easy the life is or something
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You quite done with insulting student's Scuzi?

Im a student, It's great and I don't plan on quitting any time soon :D
 
Scuzi said:
It's not so much the taking care of yourself bit, any half brained numpty can do that - it's fending for yourself in the big bad world of work. It's not that hard at all (career depending of course) but when students strut in thinking they can walk into a professional high paying role because they have a bit of paper, they are in for a shock. A lot of them don't seem to grasp the importance of experience.
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I don't know anyone like that. Nor do I know anyone who is in for a 'shock'. The world of work is not quite as amazingly complex and difficult as you seem keen to make out, millions of people manage it every day.

Plus with lots of degrees having placements now, where you do proper, genuine work for a proper, genuine salary, many students leave Uni knowing EXACTLY what awaits them.
 
[TW]Fox;9973074 said:
I don't know anyone like that. Nor do I know anyone who is in for a 'shock'. The world of work is not quite as amazingly complex and difficult as you seem keen to make out, millions of people manage it every day.
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Scuzi said:
It's not that hard at all (career depending of course)
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[TW]Fox;9973074 said:
Plus with lots of degrees having placements now, where you do proper, genuine work for a proper, genuine salary...
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Placements are an excellent idea.


[TW]Fox;9973074 said:
many students leave Uni thinking they know EXACTLY what awaits them.
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Definitely glad I've done a placement. It would be naive to expect a degree guarantees an highly paid position on entry to a company, but a relevant degree from a good institution certainly won't hold you back either. I'm hoping mine will be a foot hold on a decent graduate scheme.
 
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