Stupid Woman.. or Stupid People?

robgmun · 21 Dec 2018 at 07:39

String said:
Given that we actually know this person and his career history, that's a pretty absurd statement to make.

Yes you're right, we should use the example Stupid Jew.... joking

Slam62 · 21 Dec 2018 at 07:51

He definitely didn't call her a stupid cow so that's good

Tbf it looked to me like he said people, certainly wasn't a clear cut 'woman'

jumpy · 21 Dec 2018 at 11:31

Rroff said:
I don't have a problem with what he said at all and I doubt there was any degree of maliciousness in terms of gender intended but he is the one that made a platform of not furthering the childish behavior in parliament yet only applies it when it suits him.

Maybe malicious, maybe not, but it shows a staggering lack of awareness, of political and public image savvy that he would let himself be caught up in this by responding with a muttered comment that he had to know would be jumped on. Not because he's Corbyn, but because of the general trend to what is and is not acceptable these days.
As joe public I can take all of that with a pinch of salt for all the difference it makes to me, but he is the leader of a major political party; as such he cannot take such a laissez fair attitude. Complete lack of good judgment. But that appears to be at least one solid consistency for Corbyn.

Teh_Next said:
The childish behaviour in this case is coming from the ruling side of the house, they are making a mountain out of a mole hill and jumping on a weak excuse to avert the reality away from an incapable minority government.
They were the ones chiding with childish panto like calls prior to Corbyn's minor, unimportant, meager silly two little words.

Was this PM Q's? If so it has always been about the theater and confrontational spectacle of parliament (not that I agree with the oft-times undignified rabble it degenerates into). However it must be reiterated that all of them are behaving childishly - hyperbole aside when addressing the house, I suspect they all know the game they are playing.
Pointing out each others political inadequacy over policy is one thing, referring to another member of the house as 'stupid' and in todays social climate 'stupid woman' shows the real value of those 'meager silly two little words' as you put it.

Plenty of people will remember this. It doesn't matter if they like or dislike the tory party or not; all they will remember is that Corbyn used a dubious slur in front of the nation.

Syla5 · 21 Dec 2018 at 11:32

Not a Corbyn fan by a long stretch but having watch the replay a few times, I find it much harder to believe he said woman over people. Media gonna Media, such a massive waste of time.

jumpy · 21 Dec 2018 at 11:32

double post

Rroff · 21 Dec 2018 at 11:35

jumpy said:
Complete lack of good judgment. But that appears to be at least one solid consistency for Corbyn.

Yeah concerning that some want to see him as PM with the consistently poor judgement he has exhibited.

Shocky-FM · 21 Dec 2018 at 12:15

Unless it's recorded and clear it's open to interpretation and a waste of everybody's time, although that's what the Tories seem to do best.

skaif · 21 Dec 2018 at 12:41

Pretty sure I heard 'yanny'...

StriderX · 21 Dec 2018 at 12:47

Rroff said:
Yeah concerning that some want to see him as PM with the consistently poor judgement he has exhibited.

Poor judgement? he's a mastermind, no one is talking about a VONC anymore.

Teh_Next · 21 Dec 2018 at 15:56

jumpy said:
Maybe malicious, maybe not, but it shows a staggering lack of awareness, of political and public image savvy that he would let himself be caught up in this by responding with a muttered comment that he had to know would be jumped on. Not because he's Corbyn, but because of the general trend to what is and is not acceptable these days.
As joe public I can take all of that with a pinch of salt for all the difference it makes to me, but he is the leader of a major political party; as such he cannot take such a laissez fair attitude. Complete lack of good judgment. But that appears to be at least one solid consistency for Corbyn.

Was this PM Q's? If so it has always been about the theater and confrontational spectacle of parliament (not that I agree with the oft-times undignified rabble it degenerates into). However it must be reiterated that all of them are behaving childishly - hyperbole aside when addressing the house, I suspect they all know the game they are playing.
Pointing out each others political inadequacy over policy is one thing, referring to another member of the house as 'stupid' and in todays social climate 'stupid woman' shows the real value of those 'meager silly two little words' as you put it.

Plenty of people will remember this. It doesn't matter if they like or dislike the tory party or not; all they will remember is that Corbyn used a dubious slur in front of the nation.

Prove he said woman.

Dirk Diggler · 21 Dec 2018 at 16:39

jumpy said:
Plenty of people will remember this. It doesn't matter if they like or dislike the tory party or not; all they will remember is that Corbyn used a dubious slur in front of the nation.

The next media over reaction is just around the corner. Very few people will remember this non story next week, let alone next year.

Tony Edwards · 21 Dec 2018 at 17:03

Scort said:
Much as I think Corbyn is a mental ****, it does look like his lips were moving in a manner that suggests he did say "people" - I'm no expert by and stretch, but if you're reading this and say "wooooooo" his lips didn't do that.

Gerard said:
Only seen it the once and to me it looked like he said people, too much lip movement for it to be woman.

kiteloopy said:
That's what I see.
To be fair, they are at this moment.

Syla5 said:
Not a Corbyn fan by a long stretch but having watch the replay a few times, I find it much harder to believe he said woman over people. Media gonna Media, such a massive waste of time.

robgmun said:
It's pretty clear he said Stupid Woman, but it's the denying and behaviour afterwards that's making him look pretty bad. If he admitted it then he could have potentially turned the tables round and made the harpies yelling look like oversensitive flowers.

Its not clear at all is it.

StriderX said:
This thread actually exists? Jesus, actually hilarious.

krooton · 21 Dec 2018 at 19:34

Fine, I'll play.

Clearly people, if you see anything else you either have a speech impediment or need to get your eyes tested.

Burnsy2023 · 21 Dec 2018 at 20:20

I find this all a bit of a storm in a teacup.

I do find it frustrating that at a point in time where we really need an effective opposition, all Corbyn seems to get people actually talking about is sexist remarks or anti-antisemitism. You could blame the press for that, but I really don't think that's the issue here.

Moothead2 · 21 Dec 2018 at 20:28

Who honestly ******* cares? She's a woman, so if he said stupid woman it means he's referring to a woman who he believes is stupid. I mean is she not a woman?

labbby · 21 Dec 2018 at 20:31

In my eyes he said woman but i dont, at all find is sexist... She was being stupid and she is a woman...Oh and you can bet if a woman in the HOP called a man stupid it would hardly be reported on.

robgmun · 21 Dec 2018 at 22:18

Tony Edwards said:
Its not clear at all is it.

I'll repeat, it's almost irrelevant what he said because his behaviour afterwards poorly dealing with the situation makes him look like he's had a tantrum. How would he have dealt with brexit if he was in charge? Throw a hissy fit and storm out of the room? yeah that's loads better than May

unwashed potato! · 21 Dec 2018 at 22:54

https://youtu.be/VWKBSYqtu7M

Teh_Next · 21 Dec 2018 at 22:58

Fairly sure the answer is no said:
https://youtu.be/VWKBSYqtu7M

BOOM!
And there it is, the utter hypocrisy of the Tories.

Nice post dude.

Amnesia · 21 Dec 2018 at 23:52

if he had said it nice and loud then he gets my vote