AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

[TrixX]

Doesnt the 2080ti only just overwhelm PCI Express 3 x8 port and not by much?

Pretty sure it's somewhat irrelevant for a couple more years.

It's currently irrelevant with current cards yes. Though they are also tuned to that bandwidth restriction. With PCI-E 4.0 and 5.0 both coming in quick succession I think there's going to be a huge ramping up of GPU's using that excess bus width. Though it still remains that both AMD and Nvidia have to start capitalizing on that to get the best out of their GPU cores. Nvidia being there just with the 2080Ti and RTX Titan and AMD not really there yet, though clearly if in a test scenario the Navi arch is capable of using it.

 

[Panos]

Doesnt the 2080ti only just overwhelm PCI Express 3 x8 port and not by much?

Pretty sure it's somewhat irrelevant for a couple more years.

Titan V saturates the 16x PCIe 3.0, so I guess 2080Ti and RTX Titan do also. However both are PCI 3.0 cards, nothing can be done here to boost them even if they are added on 4.0 slot.
Possibly also, the reason of low RT performance is just that, they do not have the bandwidth to push the data fast to the cards.

 

[smilingcrow]

Surprised to see that AMD are officially blocking support for PCIe 4.0 on older boards after some have already had BIOS updates to support it. A late change of mind to keep the marketplace simpler!

 

[Panos]

Not only that but if these Nvidia rumours are true, then that will render these cards pointless before they even release.

I wouldn't hold my breath Nvidia pull something good here. Also many of us here, are more interested on having PCI 4.0 GPU, and plug M.2 on the second 8x slot for 15GB NVME raid

 

[Panos]

Surprised to see that AMD are officially blocking support for PCIe 4.0 on older boards after some have already had BIOS updates to support it. A late change of mind to keep the marketplace simpler!

Or issues when the board partners like Gigabyte (the only who did this), put actually a card on and found that is overheating the SB or doesn't actually work properly due to different wiring?

 

[Journey]

Or issues when the board partners like Gigabyte (the only who did this), put actually a card on and found that is overheating the fanless SB?

The SB has absolutely nothing to do with the lanes coming from the CPU to the GPU directly.

 

[MyBrainz]

Just a thought, would the 2048 bit Bus Width Vega cards gain any benefit from a PCIe 4.0 slot?

Like i said, just a thought

 

[HRL]

when these are out people should make a sticky of the best memory to use with these new cpus. with links to the store.

That’s a good shout.

I’m hoping to repurpose my existing B-die but we shall see.

 

[KungFuSpaghetti]

I wouldn't hold my breath Nvidia pull something good here. Also many of us here, are more interested on having PCI 4.0 GPU, and plug M.2 on the second 8x slot for 15GB NVME raid

Yeah I'm not expecting Nvidia to do anything good, I feel these rumours are too good to be true. If any performance increase comes it's likely with further price hikes than actually reducing them!

I think I'm in the other camp regarding PCIE4 and M.2... I had my Samsung Evo Polaris NVME drive for 5 days before it got send back to rainforest... 4 of those days it sat in a box... doesn't benefit me in the slightest, but then I only use my machine to **** around playing games on.

 

[RavenXXX2]

Turing ain't selling well, nvidia shares are down, gaming revenue is down 30%. I expect price cuts.

 

[Jerry64]

Turing ain't selling well, nvidia shares are down, gaming revenue is down 30%. I expect price cuts.

We can all hope for that

 

[beany_bot]

B-Die will however considering samsung just shelved it.

Literally only on this forum that B-die is a talked about thing at all.
Bit suspicious that OCUK sells specific b die ram for ryzen at an inflated price no?

 

[emodan]

Literally only on this forum that B-die is a talked about thing at all.
Bit suspicious that OCUK sells specific b die ram for ryzen at an inflated price no?

When I've looked at other retailers the prices are similar if not higher for B-Die RAM so the Team Group is actually cheap for what it is.

 

[StriderX]

Literally only on this forum that B-die is a talked about thing at all.
Bit suspicious that OCUK sells specific b die ram for ryzen at an inflated price no?

I mean it's the highest quality die currently...

 

[beany_bot]

I mean it's the highest quality die currently...

So what does that actually mean? Like real world? How many FPS does B-die RAM get you over the same speed, non B-die RAM...?
I'd be amazed if it was beyond the margin of error!

 

[MyBrainz]

Its not about FPS, but i already explained this a few pages back

 

[beany_bot]

Its not about FPS, but i already explained this a few pages back

Just in other enthusiast forums it isnt a thing at all. Not a consideration.

 

[ljt]

So what does that actually mean? Like real world? How many FPS does B-die RAM get you over the same speed, non B-die RAM...?
I'd be amazed if it was beyond the margin of error!

I thought it was more to do with it running at its advertised speed more than anything.

i.e. you might buy some 3200mhz micron/Hynix based memory, but you may only get it to run at 2933Mhz, but if you buy 3200Mhz Samsung b-die memory, you can basically guarantee it will run at that advertised 3200Mhz

 

[DarkHorizon472]

Is there a launch date and spec list released yet ?

 

[N19h7m4r3]

Is there a launch date and spec list released yet ?

Lunch date is July 7th, what type of spec list are you looking for? The CPUs are up on AMD's site for their specs, and many motherboards are on their manufacturer sites also with their specs.