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I've tested my ram (8pack 3600) with tighter cl14 timings and overclocking the ram to 3800MHz, with cl16 timings. With matching 1900Mhz infinity fabric.

3600 mem lat 66.0 timespy 10,857

3800 mem lat 63.3 timespy 11,025

C20 was very slightly higher with cl14 3600.

SO is 3800Mhz with those tight timings stable for everyday use or just for the benches? Impressive either way
 
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Fine for the last 5/6 days. I had to bump the ram voltages up which I expected. Just installed shadow of tomb raider, so will be interesting if all is OK.

Yeah. tis always gaming and some in particular that will show an instability. PUBG is very annoying 20 mins into a game and....boom. Fortunately often you can still rejoin the game and have been running still, whilst rebooting and relogging into steam and rebooting the game and run into the circle and still alive! Games are the major test for stability. Let us know how you get on.
 
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From what voltage initially and to what voltage now?

Dram voltage was initially set to auto. Now running at 1.44. Not had time to test dropping the voltage, which I will do next week. Although from what I gather b die is good for 1.5. Ran memtest for a couple of hours, no errors.

Played tomb raider for an hour, all OK.
 
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I've tested my ram (8pack 3600) with tighter cl14 timings and overclocking the ram to 3800MHz, with cl16 timings. With matching 1900Mhz infinity fabric.

3600 mem lat 66.0 timespy 10,857

3800 mem lat 63.3 timespy 11,025

C20 was very slightly higher with cl14 3600.

I'm using the 3866 8-Pack RAM as well and it's been great at 3800/1900 C15 with tight sub timings, around 63.1ns which makes a quite a difference in game performance. I needed 1.46v to achieve stable setup.
 
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I'm using the 3866 8-Pack RAM as well and it's been great at 3800/1900 C15 with tight sub timings, around 63.1ns which makes a quite a difference in game performance. I needed 1.46v to achieve stable setup.

Great ram. Seems most gains are overclocking ram/FCLK. Not tried directly overclocking the cpu yet, apart from using precision boost.
 
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Great ram. Seems most gains are overclocking ram/FCLK. Not tried directly overclocking the cpu yet, apart from using precision boost.

Yeah I've found the best gains are from RAM OC and FCLK.

I'm running my 3700X with no PBO but 101.8 bus, with ABBA on MSI MEG ACE I hit 4.5ghz+ instantly across several cores and 4.48ghz across remaining which helped a little when game benching but not as much as much as RAM OC.
 
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Hope your health improves soon mucker. Eat well and stay fit best you can, mentally if not so much physically.
Wont improve it will only get worse and Its having massive impact on me mentally. It's got to point i'w gotten Zopiclone 7mgs mixed with naproxen 3 times a day (permanent) so i can be operational.

Well at lest NEW official bioss came out for C7H from what i see with the 'ABBA' microcode

https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/...18.2138956883.1569346702-999233849.1568046968


Guess I take a chance :p
 
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Did any of you crazy lot upgrade form x370 to x570?

I can definitely do it, just not sure if its worth the money and the time/pain to dismantle/rebuild pc?

I thought about doing this too, but realised the Strix x370-F has got rather good VRMs so I'm going to wait until next year to see whether it's worth changing mobos with the next Ryzens.

Also with the same motherboard, the 2700x could only handle my Corsair Ram @ 2933Mhz. This 3900x runs it at 3600Mhz, and all the hype about x570 was how easy it was to overclock the Ram, turns out it's the memory controller in the CPU that can make a significant difference too.
 
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I thought about doing this too, but realised the Strix x370-F has got rather good VRMs so I'm going to wait until next year to see whether it's worth changing mobos with the next Ryzens.

Also with the same motherboard, the 2700x could only handle my Corsair Ram @ 2933Mhz. This 3900x runs it at 3600Mhz, and all the hype about x570 was how easy it was to overclock the Ram, turns out it's the memory controller in the CPU that can make a significant difference too.

Your CPU getting the boosts as advertised on latest BIOS? You may save Opethdisciple (spellcheck = discipleship) some cash.
 
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The chiplet architecture makes even more sense in the server environment. AMD can make monster chips with none of the cost of huge monolithic dies.

They look well placed to make big inroads.

Is not only that. The same chiplet design is been used on the upcoming consoles also.
And the idea is great making 1 product to be used across everything. Is tiny enough to have high wield rates and low cost and can be used from 6c/6t to 64c/128t cpus and everything in between.
The upcoming Zen 3 is also more impressive considering it will be packing 20 million more transistors at the same space, while having 20% better energy efficiency.

AMD pushed the envelop on CPUs design architecture really far away in a year without competition.
Intel is going to be stuck on monolithic CPUs for the non thin market for years still.

Project "Lakefield" is only for thin clients.
 
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