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Housing failure
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"create" or "build" - which one did they actually promise, and we are on the 3rd PM since that promise was made and some other crap has been taking up a lot of time. EDIT: Just read that housing has been built, but none of it can be classed as "starter homes" and with a discount because of legislation failing to materialise. Well there you go, all the none stop **** in Parliament has probably held it up.
The Tories could cure cancer and Labour would spin it as failure.
However, yes I would agree that building houses is very important with an ever growing population. This was all thought through when freedom of movement was introduced wasn't it? I'm glad our politicians care about the people and their needs.
The Tories could cure cancer and Labour would spin it as failure.
However, yes I would agree that building houses is very important with an ever growing population. This was all thought through when freedom of movement was introduced wasn't it? I'm glad our politicians care about the people and their needs.
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This is not "spin" as failure.
This is factual failure.
It matters not how many PMs there have been. Five years is plenty of time to pass legislation, particularly bearing in mind that Labour would back such legislation, there can be no excuses.
We could discuss whether it was "deliberate" or intentional failure and we could discuss whether the original promise was intended to be ignored and only used as a platform to win votes.... That might be described as "spin".
However, the factual failure is not spin. It's clearly evidenced. Not spin.
This is factual failure.
It matters not how many PMs there have been. Five years is plenty of time to pass legislation, particularly bearing in mind that Labour would back such legislation, there can be no excuses.
We could discuss whether it was "deliberate" or intentional failure and we could discuss whether the original promise was intended to be ignored and only used as a platform to win votes.... That might be described as "spin".
However, the factual failure is not spin. It's clearly evidenced. Not spin.
But homes have been built, just not "starter homes" from what I'm reading. It's a failure in that the pledge to build discounted homes for under 40s has not been fulfilled, but homes have still been built, just at normal market rate and not solely for under 40s and without any help to purchase them. The Tories have no interest in helping youngsters get into houses as they generally don't vote for them...
A "great track record" for compulsive lying
When you change the quote you quoted to suit your agenda it rather diminishes your point.
Why did you change the government to the Tories?
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If that is true, then why would they have pledged to put measures in place to help?
It looks to me like a deliberate lie.
Other opinions are available, but the evidence tends to point toward Tory lies.
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Osborne was often quoted as saying building social housing just creates more labour voters. Since state house building stopped decades ago the amount of housing built dropped significantly. Austria on the other hand carried on building state housing to this day and benefits from it.
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It’s good news really, starter homes were an awful idea to get people on the ladder. There isnt enough demand for small “starter” homes in the UK so they would have devalued immediately. We also need to move away from small intermediate housing and give people better choices.
“Affordable” housing in the currently used definition has increased significantly under the conservatives. I do agree however that social housing has suffered and there needs to be a moderate increase.
“Affordable” housing in the currently used definition has increased significantly under the conservatives. I do agree however that social housing has suffered and there needs to be a moderate increase.
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Whatever way you try and present alt facts it's another failure from the Tories.
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In the UK, it's illegal to create a political party which is free to serve the people, which is why we have a small range of parties which are here to harm us.
Any party which wants to semi-serve the people is relentlessly attacked so that it has little chance of being elected.
It's why we were given democracy in the first place.
Anyway, there isn't a housing crisis; there's a population crisis. We don't need to build a single new house.
Any party which wants to semi-serve the people is relentlessly attacked so that it has little chance of being elected.
It's why we were given democracy in the first place.
Anyway, there isn't a housing crisis; there's a population crisis. We don't need to build a single new house.
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WTF are you on about?
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I mean that in the UK, you would not be able to create a party which would serve the people. There are laws in place to prevent that.
You could however create a party which would semi-serve the people, but it would be relentlessly attacked by the parties already in existence.
If you wanted to create a socialist/ communist /globalist party, you'd be on pretty safe ground, although you'd be in competition with those already in existence.
If representative democracy was to the benefit of the people, then we would not have been given it in the first place.
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Define "population crisis", LOL.
Evidence shows it as a fact that all immigration combined is a net contributor to the economy to the tune of billions of £s per year.
But let's not allow the truth to spoil a pathetic mantra of unfounded bile.
There have been plenty of low priced starter homes built around the north east. Just the usual tit for tat political nonsense which the parties throw around. Progress in this country would be so much better if we could actually get rid of all this nonsense of party politics and have an opposition which works in a functional way instead of the disgrace that they currently are.
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I don't need to. People have eyes and can see for themselves.
It most certainly does not. The trick is not to trust those who are lying to you.
You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the effects of ignoring reality. You will find out in due course, as will everyone.
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The report comes from the National Audit Office - you know - the one that actually works for the government.
So I call BS on your BS.
The report detailed *specifically* "starter homes" and help for young people. So regardless of your personal experience of a housing boom, the pledge made by the Tories clearly has not been delivered.
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* Citation required. Else you're simply making things up to suit your own limited experience and/or personal agenda.