A California church has spent almost a week trying to raise a 2-year-old girl from the dead

B@Th*nG · 23 Dec 2019 at 15:09

They're literally hoping for a miracle - your "science" has nothing to do with it, heritic. And why shouldn't they? So many things can't be explained with science. I mean, for example, how do magnets work? Miracles.

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Diddums · 23 Dec 2019 at 15:17

B@Th*nG said:
They're literally hoping for a miracle - your "science" has nothing to do with it, heritic. And why shouldn't they? So many things can't be explained with science. I mean, for example, how do magnets work? Miracles.

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Bosh!

B@Th*nG · 23 Dec 2019 at 15:21

;D

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Gray2233 · 23 Dec 2019 at 15:31

Diddums said:
Bosh!

Mr.E. · 23 Dec 2019 at 15:31

String said:
Millions of people around the world meet to commemorate the resurrection of a man 2,020 years ago....

IIRC the 3 Kings visited a baby, not a dead man

2020 years ago

Hades · 23 Dec 2019 at 15:42

TheVoice said:
But it won't work, we know this thanks to science.

Also, fullstops are not commas.

Not sure why you are trying to comment on my grammar when each sentence appears to be correct. It's quite pedantic.

Zatoichi.uK · 23 Dec 2019 at 15:49

Be a shame if they gave up. Just need to pray harder!

dowie · 23 Dec 2019 at 16:01

'merica

mrk said:
Resurrected what though? Nothing can reverse brain death. Once the brain has been starved of oxygen for several minutes, all functions are corrupted and there's no hope for the person who was an individual to return as that individual, this is basic biology which overrules absolutely everything and why there is no documented or observed case of such a thing being possible in all history.

Not to be pedantic but there are some interesting instances of this happening, after a few hours and in some cases the individuals being revived and appearing to be fairly normal afterwards - tends to be in very cold conditions tho...

See this video - 7 kids in Denmark "died" or at least were clinically dead - hearts stopped, bodies cold for a couple of hours before medics even got to them... they managed to bring them all back after slowly warming their blood and restarting their hearts. AFAIK one teacher sadly did drown. Apparently they're back to normal now:

krooton · 23 Dec 2019 at 16:06

Gotta love the audacity of thinking they can pray away God's plan, like who do they think they are ?

deuse · 23 Dec 2019 at 19:41

Well if these religious nut jobs want to try and resurrect a person let them carry on.

It's better than other religious nut jobs trying to hack your head off.

Sutters · 23 Dec 2019 at 19:58

these people are witches and should be burned.

SexyGreyFox · 23 Dec 2019 at 20:39

Sutters said:
these people are witches and should be burned.

Only if it works

BananaDunka · 23 Dec 2019 at 21:22

dowie said:
Not to be pedantic but there are some interesting instances of this happening, after a few hours and in some cases the individuals being revived and appearing to be fairly normal afterwards - tends to be in very cold conditions tho...

Well yes, that's the point of cryostasis and other forms of cold storage.like it. The doctor in that case even states "when they are as cold as they were, we know there is a chance to resuscitate, they are dead, but not dead". And the BBC captions even explain why this case turned out the way it did.

This was no miracle, it was once again basic biology. It just so happened those kids fell into nature's freezer.

Minusorange · 23 Dec 2019 at 21:46

dowie said:
See this video - 7 kids in Denmark "died" or at least were clinically dead

I just came to post this, resurrection is technically legit, but 4 days later ? nope, unless you want the human to be a vegetable

I do hope they're not storing the dead person in a fridge in hopes it will work :cool:

dowie · 23 Dec 2019 at 22:10

mrk said:
Well yes, that's the point of cryostasis and other forms of cold storage.like it. The doctor in that case even states "when they are as cold as they were, we know there is a chance to resuscitate, they are dead, but not dead". And the BBC captions even explain why this case turned out the way it did.

This was no miracle, it was once again basic biology. It just so happened those kids fell into nature's freezer.

I didn't say it was a miracle - you said (am paraphrasing here) that once the brain has been starved of oxygen there is no hope for that person to return as the same individual and there weren't any documented cases I'm just pointing out that actually there are some cases - in this case, with careful management of resuscitating them it seems they have survived in tact and with normal scans.

This isn't like "Cryostasis" - that is rather flawed and tends to damage the cells etc.. as it involves actually freezing them in order to (supposedly) preserve for a long period of time. These kids on the other hand essentially just had everything slowed right down, they would have perhaps been unrecoverable within a few hours longer.

adolf hamster · 23 Dec 2019 at 22:12

Have they done it yet?

BananaDunka · 23 Dec 2019 at 22:13

In normal circumstances absolutely. The case you linked isn't a normal circumstance. What happened there is extremely unique in that it was natural cryostasis. This doesn't mean people who die can later be frozen with hopes of also being revived.

dowie · 23 Dec 2019 at 22:19

mrk said:
In normal circumstances absolutely. The case you linked isn't a normal circumstance. What happened there is extremely unique in that it was natural cryostasis. This doesn't mean people who die can later be frozen with hopes of also being revived.

People being frozen with the hopes of being revived has nothing to do with that case - the reason I posted it was that it is an interesting situation/not normal circumstances and it was one of those rare cases where the brain could be starved of oxygen for a prolonged period.

Incidentally, on the subject of saving people - there have been experiments in the US where doctors have cooled people in A&E (say gunshot victims etc..) in order to give them more time to save them.

200sols · 23 Dec 2019 at 22:21

adolf hamster said:
Have they done it yet?

Yep. Christmas miracle.

Feek · 23 Dec 2019 at 22:24

Brainwashed idiots, all of them.