Donald Trump

[plasmahal]

You're either lying or incompetent.






Plasmahal I know this will fall on deaf ears but think about it. These witnesses should be able to clear Trump's name. Trump is trying to prove he didn't commit an impeachable offence, the Democrats are trying to prove he did. What do you think will help clear this up? Evidence and witnesses.

The house never called these as witnesses. Why are you in denial of theses facts?

 

[plasmahal]

You pull this stuff in SC and are (somehow) allowed to get away with it. Can you keep your trolling to one thread or the other? It's tiring reading it in 2 places about the same thing.

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Been posting here recently, don't see how that's hard to follow.

Bit rich coming from from one of GD'd top trolls.

 

[doodah]

The house never called these as witnesses. Why are you in denial of theses facts?

Acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney refused to comply with House impeachment investigators' subpoena for a closed-door deposition Friday, citing "absolute immunity" from testifying.

House Democrats ask White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney to testify in Trump impeachment probe.

Grossly incompetent it is then.

 

[plasmahal]

Grossly incompetent it is then.

Grossly ignorant it is then!!!

If a subpoena is refused, then the house takes them to court and a judge will decide.

That's how it works, it's called the separation of powers.

 

[doodah]

So are you right or wrong? Did they call Mulvaney to testify and subpoena him in the House. A simple yes or no.

Why does a 50 year old man have so much time to troll? You must have something better to do in your life? Like Airfix - why don't you spend more time doing that? Or jokes and hugs as you hinted at earlier in this thread? Or does the negative attention reward you more?

I just don't get it.

Edit - @plasmahal on a side note, OK that Airfix is pretty darn cool !!!! Is that a Vulcan?

 

[plasmahal]

So are you right or wrong? Did they call Mulvaney to testify and subpoena him in the House. A simple yes or no.

As you know, it's both. They need to follow through with the correct process to get what they need.

Why does a 50 year old man have so much time to troll?

I have time before work to spend time with you. As a 60 year old, what do you do with your spare time?

You must have something better to do in your life? Like Airfix - why don't you spend more time doing that?

It's a about balance, I wish i could do it all the time but there are other things in my life. Can you say the same, given how much hate you spew in the SC echo chamber.

Just finished this BTW.



What have you done recently?

Or does the negative attention reward you more?

Maybe its finding some amusement in seeing people lose there minds over an old orange man getting voted as the president of the US and how ridiculous it all is.

 

[chroniclard]

Dems have tried all along the process to get key evidence but have been obstructed at nearly every turn. Only the patriotic have come forward.

Now the senate is also blocking evidence.

Little more than a cover up of Donalds incompetent corrupt regime.

Thankfully there is more than enough evidence for those without bias to conclude on.

 

[doodah]

Maybe it finding some amusement in seeing people lose there minds over an old orange man get voted as the president of the US and how ridiculous it all is.

So a troll.......

Trolling – (verb), as it relates to internet, is the deliberate act, (by a Troll – noun or adjective), of making random unsolicited and/or controversial comments on various internet forums with the intent to provoke an emotional knee jerk reaction from unsuspecting readers to engage in a fight or argument. Trolling on-line forums as described above is actually analogous to the fishing technique of “trolling”, where colorful baits and lures are pulled behind a slow moving boat, often with multiple fishing lines, covering a large bodies of water, such as a large lake or the ocean. The trolling lures attract unsuspecting fish, intriguing them with the way they move through the water, thus enticing these foolish fish to “take the bait”. Not unlike unsuspecting internet victims, once hooked, the fish are reeled in for the catch before they realize they have been duped by the Troll/Fisherman

Dems have tried all along the process to get key evidence but have been obstructed at nearly every turn. Only the patriotic have come forward.

Now the senate is also blocking evidence.

Little more than a cover up of Donalds incompetent corrupt regime.

Thankfully there is more than enough evidence for those without bias to conclude on.

Here's a funny thought - imagine if the Democrats won the Senate but lost the presidency (whilst keeping the House). I wonder how brazen he would be then....

 

[robfosters]

I do agree with Plasma, the outrage, whinging and generally pathetic bleating about a man who is going to be out of a job in 4 or 5 years is laughable.

You say Plasma needs to get a life, yet some of you are on here and SC more than him. Maybe all of you need to take a look at yourselves. This obsession with him really is not healthy.

 

[mmj_uk]

If the Democrats had wanted witnesses to testify then they should have done it in the house where the investigation process is SUPPOSED to happen, instead they blocked Trump/Republican's from launching any kind of defence and voted for impeachment on a vague non-crime. Pelosi had to stop them all celebrating when the supposedly "sombre" impeachment had passed. They've basically impeached Trump as a part of their 2020 campaign because they don't have any decent candidates or policies for 2020 it's a disgrace, all they have is "orange man bad" and "a vote for Trump is a vote for Russia" type slogans while the American economy is booming.

 

[chroniclard]

I do agree with Plasma, the outrage, whinging and generally pathetic bleating about a man who is going to be out of a job in 4 or 5 years is laughable.

You say Plasma needs to get a life, yet some of you are on here and SC more than him. Maybe all of you need to take a look at yourselves. This obsession with him really is not healthy.

Outside of arguing the toss on here 99.9% of people in the threads probably dont give Trump a passing thought.

 

[doodah]

People with thousands more posts than plasmalal including Rob's 30,000 are on here more than him - consider me utterly shocked!

I do agree with Plasma, the outrage, whinging and generally pathetic bleating about a man who is going to be out of a job in 4 or 5 years is laughable.

You say Plasma needs to get a life, yet some of you are on here and SC more than him. Maybe all of you need to take a look at yourselves. This obsession with him really is not healthy.

If the Democrats had wanted witnesses to testify then they should have done it in the house where the investigation process is SUPPOSED to happen, instead they blocked Trump/Republican's from launching any kind of defence and voted for impeachment on a non-crime due to a lack of evidence of a Quid Quo Pro. They've basically impeached Trump as a part of their 2020 campaign because they don't have any decent candidates or policies for 2020 it's a disgrace.

No Rob - it's because of grossly misleading posts like this.

@mmj_uk - are you willfully lying here?

The White House has prevented the president’s chief of staff, his former national security adviser, budget officials and two individuals named as part of the alleged rogue channel behind a push for investigations by Kyiv — his personal attorney and outgoing energy secretary — from testifying before Congress. November 2019.

Mick Mulvaney, the acting White House chief of staff, reversed gears on Tuesday and said he would follow President Trump’s order to defy a House subpoena and refuse to testify as part of its impeachment inquiry rather than seek a judge’s ruling. November 2019.

The Trump administration has blocked Gordon Sondland, President Trump's ambassador to the European Union, from testifying before Congress on Tuesday. October 2019 though Sondland is obviously not been called to the Senate but it still show a pattern of obstruction.

Four potentially devastating witnesses in the House impeachment inquiry will follow White House orders and will refuse to testify. Two White House lawyers, John Eisenberg and Michael Ellis, had been scheduled to give depositions Monday, along with Brian McCormick, a deputy official in the Office of Management and Budget, and Robert Blair, a presidential assistant and senior adviser to acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney. November 2019.

Senate Republicans blocked an attempt by Democrats to include a deal ... effort to subpoena White House acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney. January 2020.

White House rejects invitation to Wednesday’s judiciary committee hearing but reserves right to attend in future. December 2019.

 

[plasmahal]

Dems have tried all along the process to get key evidence but have been obstructed at nearly every turn.

The obstruction you quote is the office of the presidents constitutional right, as used by all presidents at some point.

This is where the separation of powers kicks in but the dems have just rolled over at this point. If they want the witnesses, they need to follow the process which they won't.

Only the patriotic have come forward.

HAHAHA, whataboutisms.

Little more than a cover up of Donalds incompetent corrupt regime.

It's a trial, following the Clinton process.

Thankfully there is more than enough evidence for those without bias to conclude on.

We'll see on that. I suspect a lack of evidence will cause an acquittal.

 

[chroniclard]

If the Democrats had wanted witnesses to testify then they should have done it in the house where the investigation process is SUPPOSED to happen, instead they blocked Trump/Republican's from launching any kind of defence and voted for impeachment on a non-crime due to a lack of evidence of a Quid Quo Pro. They've basically impeached Trump as a part of their 2020 campaign because they don't have any decent candidates or policies for 2020 it's a disgrace.

*You post has been flagged by Fact Checker as 90% lies, please refrain from alt facts.

 

[plasmahal]

So a troll.......

Yes, like you.

 

[robfosters]

People with thousands more posts than plasmalal including Rob's 30,000 are on here more than him - consider me utterly shocked!



No Rob - it's because of grossly misleading posts like this.

I don’t spend my time on here obsessing about Trump though.

 

[chroniclard]

The obstruction you quote is the office of the presidents constitutional right, as used by all presidents at some point.

This is where the separation of powers kicks in but the dems have just rolled over at this point. If they want the witnesses, they need to follow the process which they won't.

No. They tried to follow process but were obstructed many times. Those are the facts.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/10/04/us/politics/president-trump-impeachment-inquiry.html

The white house ordered these people not to give evidence, because the white house is corrupt.

 

[doodah]

I don’t spend my time on here obsessing about Trump though.

Just Brexit and getting our sovereignty back?

@plasmahal - so did Mulvaney get subpoenaed/asked to testify in the House or not?

 

[robfosters]

Just Brexit and getting our sovereignty back?

@plasmahal - so did Mulvaney get subpoenaed/asked to testify in the House or not?

No, because the supbpeoena request was rejected, so he hasn’t actually been subpoenaed.

 

[plasmahal]

so did Mulvaney get subpoenaed/asked to testify in the House or not?

I have answered that.