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OcUK RX6000 series review thread

Aretak said:
That doesn't appear to be what's going on to me. OcUK are saying that they won't be getting any more stock of the reference design. Not that there's a supply problem or that it'll be a while before they get more stock. Just that there plain won't be any more. It seems like AMD never planned to produce more than a few thousand of these things and everything's gone into the partner cards instead.
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AMD in a video yesterday said the stock issue would improve between the end of December and early in the New Year.
Aretak said:
Although quite why they'd decide to press ahead with the launch yesterday anyway after seeing the reaction to Ampere and its shortages is an entirely different mystery.
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I've wondered that as well and just come to the conclusion it was just a cash grab.
 
Doctor said:
I've been reading about 3080 vs 6800xt a lot and have gotten really confused, so I compiled a few charts from every review out there. Basically it confirms to me that the reason nobody can agree is because the reviewers also don't agree about which actually performs better or by how much.

I don't think that 6800xt actually performs better in modern games, a few ray tracing titles coming up seem to be really nicely optimized though.

https://imgur.com/a/lnAms2Q
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Green Team win then? Soon to be Red Team win when 8K and crazy vram amounts needed :confused:
 
Doctor said:
Basically it confirms to me that the reason nobody can agree
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Seems plenty of agreement.

AMD is doing very nicely at lower res in sheer FPS but Nvidia holds up better when it comes to 4k

Then because AMD doesn't have competitive tools and features to do it, it's considerably worse at realtime raytracing.
 
Hotwired said:
Seems plenty of agreement.

AMD is doing very nicely at lower res in sheer FPS but Nvidia holds up better when it comes to 4k

Then because AMD doesn't have competitive tools and features to do it, it's considerably worse at realtime raytracing.
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I would also say so after doing it, but the actual motivation for me doing it was people saying 6800xt does better "in newer games", so I took an old game (sottr) and new game (legion), and compared. There are still people out there claiming watch dogs runs better on AMD, purely based one or another review. Valhalla runs strictly better on 6800xt btw at 4K, which is why I didn't bother with it on the graph.
 
The main thing is AMD has definitely joined Nvidia in being able to deliver 4k gaming, within a few % one way or the other 6800XT vs 3080.

It's an enormous jump in many cases from their previous best effort.
 
The main thing is AMD are a valid choice at the top end now. At 4K 3080 wins by ~5% - 7% overall but it is close enough to say AMD are a viable alternative.

Do you want better RT and DLSS, or do you want more VRAM? This is a position AMD have not been in since maybe the 290X released in 2013.

2 months after Ampere Launch and stock is still non-existent for the more sensibly priced 3070 and 3080. The key is can AMD get stock out there for the AIB launch next week. I am not so sure it wont be a repeat, I mean look at Ryzen 5xx0 range of CPUs. Nowhere in sight a few weeks after launch is quite pathetic from AMD.
 
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ICDP said:
The main thing is AMD are a valid choice at the top end now. At 4K 3080 wins by ~5% - 7% overall but it is close enough to say AMD are a viable alternative.

Do you want better RT and DLSS
Do you want more VRAM?

The key is can AMD get stock out there for the AIB launch next week. Though history will show both AMD and Nvidia had disastrous launch days.
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I am quite sure that the RX 6800 XT will last for more years because of the very large VRAM size.

RTX 3080's support will be dropped by Nvidia in several months when it launches RTX 4000 and forgets the last generation.
 
Hotwired said:
The main thing is AMD has definitely joined Nvidia in being able to deliver 4k gaming, within a few % one way or the other 6800XT vs 3080.

It's an enormous jump in many cases from their previous best effort.
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But AMD has been at points like this before though.
I mean the Radeon VII was around the 2080 performance, we're only a generation on from that lol.

That was meant to be a 4K card too.

It's only got iffy because AMD didn't release any flagship follow up from Vega 64 and instead we ended up with a mid range 5700XT for 18 months.
 
The Radeon VII was ~15% slower than RTX 2080 on launch, so it was not received well by the press and was reported as loud and hot. It reeked of desperation.

The 6800 and 6800XT reviews were good overall, though I personally still think 6800XT is meh considering the poor RT performance which may be a future problem. Though if someone offered me a 3080 for current prices of £750 - £800 (if you can get stock), or a 6800XT for £100 - £150 less I would take the 6800XT.
 
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ICDP said:
The Radeon VII was ~15% slower than RTX 2080 on launch, so it was not received well by the press and was reported as loud and hot. It reeked of desperation.

The 6800 and 6800XT reviews were good overall, though I personally still think 6800XT is meh considering the poor RT performance which may be a future problem. Though if someone offered me a 3080 for current prices of £750 - £800 (if you can get stock), or a 6800XT for £100 - £150 less I would take the 6800XT.
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Someone hasn't been careful in class:

Assasin's Creed Odyssey >17% improvement
Battlefield V >18% improvement
Borderlands 3 >4% improvement
Civilisation VI >9% improvement
Death Stranding >2% improvement
Divinity Original Sin 2 >25% improvement
OcUK RX6000 series review thread
 
It is my opinion that the LOWEST PRICE is KING betwen 2 competing GPUs!!! As long as the FPS are less then 10% there is usually no difference in game immersion. The game won't be any more smoother or faster for example. So why are you paying more? So that your frame rate counter says 115 vs 110? If the different between competing GPUs is $50 then you are paying $10 per frame just for the privileged of those extra 5 frames, for example. That's a silly emo reason to pay more. Not withstanding overclocking.

However, here is the rub...AMD drivers will mature. And when they do you want to be there when it happens. As that will incur a performance uplift. When the 5700xt was release in July 2019 it was way behind the 2070s. Remember? That's why Nvidia released the 2070s...to beat the 5700xt. But by the end of the year (and when new titles were released in 2020) the 5700xt caught up and beat the 2070s in newer titles.
 
no_1_dave said:
I think performance will start to suffer way before games require more than 10GB.
There is a large thread discussing this already
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Indeed but you said it yourself, "I think", so you are clearly not convinced 100%. It's because 10GB at 4K is right on the borderline and it makes it a risk even shorter - mid term.
 
The 6800XT is the card to get if you game at 1440P or less. For 4K you are probably better off with a 3080 but it all depends on how much you want to pay for about 8% extra performance over the 6800XT.
I also expect the AMD drivers to improve over a few months so possibility of catching up by a few percent. If there is a bandwidth issue at 4K then it should get sorted with driver optimisations and bios updates. The difference in newer games is negligible at around ±2%.
 
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