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Anyone just given up on looking for a new GPU?

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So so given up, I was really hoping to snag a 3070 Ti but missed out of course! I also really want a white card so I'm kinda difficult XD
Im in a similar situation to Senpai. I need a specific kind of card because of size limitations in my case and I would prefer an exhaust style or a shorter card with an open back plate.
Because of this, Ive been trying since Nov 2020 to get a card, starting with the 3060Ti FE. Along the way there have been a few times I could have picked up a card at rrp, but in all cases they were too big for my case...

I also tried for the 3070Ti FE. I didnt even want it, because it was right on the edge of size for me and I didnt like the heat profile as I prefer a lower power card. Tried anyway, but didnt even see a button.

As time went on, the price I considered resonable for a mid-tier card crept higher and higher. At the start I didnt want to pay more than £400, then it became 500, then 6, then 650. Even raising my budget didnt help, I still couldnt get anything as stock sold out in seconds.

Ive been hunting for a rrp card for over 6 months now and I have kind of resigned myself to not getting a card for at least a year or so. I will just switch to playing strategy games and avoid FPS I guess.

One the most annoying things about this shortage that you dont hear mentioned often is that buyers dont really have choice anymore. You can no longer look at the different cards and choose the one which best suits your needs, size or price or colour, fan headers, dual bios, customer service etc etc. Buyers just dont have time to think, if it is in stock then buy it. This is ok for scalpers and the rich, but for people that dont drop £500 every year on a new card and rather spend as little as possible and keep their cards for 4+ yrs this is a very bad market

3060s are in stock at OC as I write this and start at £599 and go up into the mid-600s. I was around when the 3060s first dropped on OC (25 Mar). They started around £450 and I passed at the time because that pricing was more than a 2060Super cost at the end of 2019. Back in 2019 I considered the 2060Super pricing too high and passed... So there is no chance Im going to shell out £150 over the already over inflated prices. Next drop the price will probabaly go up again. Some people must have money to burn paying these prices, or they are all just being bought by scalpers/miners which the tech press keep telling us is exagerated and it is actually normal gamers paying these prices too?
NB: Im not having a go at OC specifically, all the retailers have inflated prices now

I was watching a Paul's hardware video yesterday where he mentioned an old video of his 'Build a new gaming PC for $500' and how that is impossible now. There are also several videos published recently discussing if this is the end PC building. Of course it will carry on, but if building a mid-tier gaming PC permanently becomes 2, 3, 4 times the price it was a couple of years back, it will be quite an elite hobby (even though it was a tiny bit already). There is always the 2nd hand market, but for some they dont want to get their hands dirty with dealing with items that have no warranty or possibly getting scammed. Even if this inflated demand goes away, I very much doubt the 40 series cards will have resonable RRPs. All mining will have to go away or cards will have to be crippled for all mining, neither of which I think is likely. Sadly, I think this situation is here to stay - at least for a few years until something in the architechure changes where the gpu isnt so important anymore.
 

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There is one simple way to kill mining demand without having to limit the GPU or make separate GPUs etc.

That simple idea is for governments across the world to make it illegal to sell or trade crypto currency for real fiat currency.

Let's face it, the main reason people mine is to eventually "cash out" for "real" money. If you make that part illegal then mining becomes worthless and will quickly lose its appeal.
 
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Mining doesn't become worthless if you can't cash out, just much less attractive. You can still trade the coins for other goods and services. Banning exchange for traditional currency just removes the middleman, which ultimately moves us towards more efficient market and where crypto probably aspires to anyway.

Of course, for your average punter converting to cash is vastly preferable becuase it is universally accepted, unlike crypto.
 
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So so given up, I was really hoping to snag a 3070 Ti but missed out of course! I also really want a white card so I'm kinda difficult XD
My bro got a two 3090s (one for a friend), each at the price 3070s are now selling at. :(
Wish I'd been his friend for the second 3090 he got in stock... I just bought his 1060 instead. Wondering if I should sell my 1060 to pay for a small Hawaiian island to retire on.
 
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Mining doesn't become worthless if you can't cash out, just much less attractive. You can still trade the coins for other goods and services. Banning exchange for traditional currency just removes the middleman, which ultimately moves us towards more efficient market and where crypto probably aspires to anyway.

Of course, for your average punter converting to cash is vastly preferable becuase it is universally accepted, unlike crypto.

You can buy a tesla... oh no wait...

While volatility is high I personally cannot see how goods can be priced in crypto.

The O/P was correct about the threat to crypto - the whole thing could be undermined with the strike of a regulators pen. Each time a news story breaks about ransoms being paid in crypto that cannot be good news for those that really want crypto to go mainstream.
 
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Yeah it's difficult to comprehend really, to me it's all logical but other seemingly non-idiot people just don't get it. I've even had debates on here with reasonably smart people about paying car insurance monthly, to me it makes no sense at all and even their arguments about it 'making budgeting easier' don't really stand-up to scrutiny.

I once worked with a guy, again not a complete idiot doing a reasonably technical job who didn't want to pay off his credit card, come out of his overdraft etc because then the lender might reduce his limit and then "I'll never get that money back". He just couldn't understand that actually if he wasn't forking out so much in fees and interest (this was over 10years ago before legislation capped fees etc) he'd soon make savings as big as the amount of his overdraft in the first place! Payday loans to him represented good value, because they only cost him £15 to get £100 out to tide him over til payday.
Yeah, the credit industry pretty much runs on people like that. If everyone was somewhat financially savvy you'd like to think there would pretty much not be a credit industry.
 
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I was surprised how "easy" it was - I decided I'd try the telegram thing yesterday so created an account on Scan and set up telegram. This is literally the first alert since I downloaded the program - now to explain to the wife the sudden Credit card charge :)

BTW second alert just came up if anyoen is looking
 
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