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Alder Lake-S leaks

mrk said:
:D

My gut feeling is that come Thursday afternoon, a bunch of people will be rather silent around these parts :p

We should all just get along! Like e cores and p cores.
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It wont be silent regarding power consumption there's a reason why some posters have been laying the groundwork about it the last couple of weeks. ;)
 
Grim5 said:
Power consumption at the high end doesn't really matter for desktop gaming
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I know what you mean but i think it kind of does. Power = heat and also on a product that has "Efficiency" cores you could be forgiven for being a little grumpy at the power consumption. It possibly also mean higher quality motherboards needed to push the chip which means more cost. Hey we will know very soon though
 
Robert896r1 said:
It does from a heat dissipation standpoint which then limits the performance headroom available for tuning.

Due to the smaller size and thinner die, direct die like on 9900k/10900k won’t be an option this time so heat/power consumption will be the limiting factors here.
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True and I did consider heat.

But the reason I don't think it was worth mentioning is because

1) if the manufacturer of, let's say a GPU, want to make a very high power draw GPU for the high end then they will make sure they design a cooler for it. The high end user will pay for the performance with less concern about other things.

2) in the CPU example, it's a similar story - users who want high end performance can afford to pay for the cooling that they may need for it. That's why I specifically mentioned high end, cause power usage is important at the low and mid range because those users are more focused on cost and form factor
 
It’s all about heat exchanging. GPU’s are direct die with large die sizes. So you the benefit of connection directly with the die without additional layers to pass through. This allows then to dissipate a ton of heat. The massive size allow that heat to be spread out and not be as concentrated which helps transfer itself onto the cold plate.

Now compare ampere 3090 die size to adl. Then add a layer of stim and a layer of metal (ihs). The density of the heat in the die coupled with its ability to transfer it to the surface limits how much even your high end cooling system can do.
 
Seems price cuts for Ryzen are imminent in the coming weeks. The 5950X was the most overpriced one of the lot due to being a halo product. Glad to see it may be finally knocked down.
 
ADL’s performance tomorrow people will see will be impressive.

in a couple of months, when there are high end bins of ddr5, people have more experience tuning the platform and bios has matured, will be another big jump that will make launch day seem weak. Feel free to quote me on this.
 
Robert896r1 said:
ADL’s performance tomorrow people will see will be impressive.

in a couple of months, when there are high end bins of ddr5, people have more experience tuning the platform and bios has matured, will be another big jump that will make launch day seem weak. Feel free to quote me on this.
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Yup, this is mainly why I'm holding off. Also want to see what AMD V-Cache chips are like too for a simple drop-in upgrade :)
 
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