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Alder Lake-S leaks

@mrk if budget, bank for buck, is the goal, a good board + 12600k + reusing ddr4 is a really good combo and you'll be performance maxed pretty much right away.

However if you have a bigger budget and was something that scales better over time, getting a 12900k + high end board and being slightly patient for better ddr5 bins is absolutely the way to go.

This will also give you the option to drop in Raptor Lake while I would have limited faith in DDR4 + RPL.
 
CaliKeith said:
Why does it matter what it looks like? It'll be hidden behind the motherboard tray with all the cables or in a Dual Chamber case, in the PSU side of the case.
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Because it looks big, it looks bulky, it looks unwieldy, it looks impractical and difficult to work with.

"Looks" in this instance is not referring to the aesthetics.
 
beasty6 said:
I think I'm going to pre order a 12600kf and gaming x ddr4, then make adjustments/cancel depending on the reviews
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I think the 12900K will take the gaming performance crown by around 10% on average. I also think the 12600K vs 5600X is going to be closer in gaming. I base this on the information Intel shared about the 12900K vs the 11900K and the performance delta between the 11900K and 11600K. I think the 12900K is going to have a higher performance advantage over the 12600K than the 11900K did over the 11600K due to the different turbo power limits and also the fact that the 12900K has 50% more cache than the 12600K where as the 11900K only had 33% more cache than the 11600K. This leads me to think that the 12600K will be around the 11900K in gaming performance on average and the 11900K is only 1/2% faster than a 5600X @ 1080p.

EDIT: HUB have shown how Intel scales with cache amounts and we also see it with the 5700G vs 5800X and 5600G vs 5600X. Combining a lower cache part with the current high latency DDR5 might throw up some surprises on the gaming front where as 12600K + DDR4 may very well be the way to go until low latency DDR5 is an affordable thing.
 
timorous said:
I think the 12900K will take the gaming performance crown by around 10% on average. I also think the 12600K vs 5600X is going to be closer in gaming. I base this on the information Intel shared about the 12900K vs the 11900K and the performance delta between the 11900K and 11600K. I think the 12900K is going to have a higher performance advantage over the 12600K than the 11900K did over the 11600K due to the different turbo power limits and also the fact that the 12900K has 50% more cache than the 12600K where as the 11900K only had 33% more cache than the 11600K. This leads me to think that the 12600K will be around the 11900K in gaming performance on average and the 11900K is only 1/2% faster than a 5600X @ 1080p.

EDIT: HUB have shown how Intel scales with cache amounts and we also see it with the 5700G vs 5800X and 5600G vs 5600X. Combining a lower cache part with the current high latency DDR5 might throw up some surprises on the gaming front where as 12600K + DDR4 may very well be the way to go until low latency DDR5 is an affordable thing.
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Ooo interesting, I'm getting so impatient haha

Think I'll pre order, just to get my hand in, then can always cancel depending on how it turns out, need to wait for EK to release a bracket for my aio also
 
timorous said:
I think the 12900K will take the gaming performance crown by around 10% on average. I also think the 12600K vs 5600X is going to be closer in gaming. I base this on the information Intel shared about the 12900K vs the 11900K and the performance delta between the 11900K and 11600K. I think the 12900K is going to have a higher performance advantage over the 12600K than the 11900K did over the 11600K due to the different turbo power limits and also the fact that the 12900K has 50% more cache than the 12600K where as the 11900K only had 33% more cache than the 11600K. This leads me to think that the 12600K will be around the 11900K in gaming performance on average and the 11900K is only 1/2% faster than a 5600X @ 1080p.

EDIT: HUB have shown how Intel scales with cache amounts and we also see it with the 5700G vs 5800X and 5600G vs 5600X. Combining a lower cache part with the current high latency DDR5 might throw up some surprises on the gaming front where as 12600K + DDR4 may very well be the way to go until low latency DDR5 is an affordable thing.
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The real question is how the 12700k performs vs. the 12900k. We have no information on that as it seems Intel does not want to focus on it too much for some reason.
 
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