Train burglaries in the US, do we have anything at this scale in the UK?

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Unless you're a person of colour, in which case they will lock you up for 10-20 years minimum, add on top of which free slave labour........people of colour locked up for a couple of decades for carrying like 5 grams of pot is rife over there (which isn't a big crime at all they just pretend its serious) and a MASSIVE abuse of human rights - but as it is, the black prison population is the free slave labour that makes the arms industry so cheap over there, they do pay them to get around "laws' but something like 5 pence a day.

The USA needs hauling in front of the world human rights judges tbh !!

"Person of colour"

Jail incarceration rate of confined inmates in the United States in 2020, by race/Hispanic origin(per 100,000 residents)

Black/African American 465
American Indian/Alaska Native 274
Hispanic/Latino 134
White 133
Native Hawaiian/Other Pacific Islander 104
Asian 19
Two or more races 19

That strange racism where whites and Hispanics/ Latinos are imprisoned at rather similair rates and Asians at around 1/6 the rate!


Que the but.... but muh systemic history of oppression narrative....

But then we have newer 'peoples of colour' entering the country who have both lower economic prospects and much lower incarceration rates than the natives....

Earlier research has shown that recent immigrants have poorer labor market experiences than native-born Americans or earlier cohorts of immigrants. A purely economic model of criminal behavior, which sees the likelihood of an individual engaging in criminal behavior as influenced strongly by whether he or she has opportunities for well-paid legal employment, would imply that recent immigrants should be more likely to commit crimes and go to jail than natives. But this study concludes that recent immigrants are less likely to be institutionalized than earlier immigrants or the native-born.

One day you may wake up to the fact that it is the culture of the respective groups that drives these disparities and not systemic oppression in the modern Western world.

You may then realise what you have done to prop up some of the less optimal cultures.
 
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But then we have newer 'peoples of colour' entering the country who have both lower economic prospects and much lower incarceration rates than the natives....

One day you may wake up to the fact that it is the culture of the respective groups that drives these disparities and not systemic oppression in the modern Western world.

You may then realise what you have done to prop up some of the less optimal cultures.

Finally, comparing the experience of immigrants over time, they conclude that immigrants assimilate to the higher institutionalization rates of the native born.

How do you explain that line from your link?

Yes I imagine citing facts would seem dumb to you

You've done the exact same thing Caracus2k has done, cited facts and then made up your own conclusions to fit them.
 
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"Person of colour"



That strange racism where whites and Hispanics/ Latinos are imprisoned at rather similair rates and Asians at around 1/6 the rate!


Que the but.... but muh systemic history of oppression narrative....

But then we have newer 'peoples of colour' entering the country who have both lower economic prospects and much lower incarceration rates than the natives....

One day you may wake up to the fact that it is the culture of the respective groups that drives these disparities and not systemic oppression in the modern Western world.

You may then realise what you have done to prop up some of the less optimal cultures.

Jesus are you racist? You sound like trump defending his great ideas.

You're completely ignoring black people get locked up for decades for next to no reason.....and Yeh some white people are in jail but for horrific crimes, getting similar sentences for murder as a black person gets for simply smoking a joint - it's completely absurd.

Go find some fancy stats on what people are in for and compare their sentences.

Cannot believe you're justifying it and worse, using the abuse of minority races by simply saying 'Yeh but they commit more crime', christ on a bike.....also thinking the western world doesn't oppress people is madness.
 
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Jesus are you racist? You sound like trump defending his great ideas.

You're completely ignoring black people get locked up for decades for next to no reason.....and Yeh some white people are in jail but for horrific crimes, getting similar sentences for murder as a black person gets for simply smoking a joint - it's completely absurd.

Go find some fancy stats on what people are in for and compare their sentences.

Cannot believe you're justifying it and worse, using the abuse of minority races by simply saying 'Yeh but they commit more crime', christ on a bike.....also thinking the western world doesn't oppress people is madness.

You're the one making assertions, you should back up your statements with facts instead of just saying things as if they were facts and then asking if people are racist when they suggest that you're wrong
 
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Los angeles and San-fran are utterly terrible examples:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j73cjA1IcJw

Dont all the other states essentially give homeless people a one way ticket to these places to get them out of their boroughs?! + the weather is a big calling card.

You cant blame the downtrodden (im not saying you are!) in these circumstances, im sure we'd all do the same if we found ourselfs in their predicament!
 
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How do you explain that line from your link?

They assimilate to some of the generally inferior cultures present in many different ethnicities in the US.

Jesus are you racist? You sound like trump defending his great ideas.

You're completely ignoring black people get locked up for decades for next to no reason.

You were literally the first person to bring up race/ ethnicities in the thread when it was a subject that was not explicitly linked to race.

You head must be spinning from the amount of spin and projection you put out.

Go look at the stats on violent crime (including that as reported by victims of crime) before you make yourself look any sillier.

If you can't be bothered to go looking I summarised some of the salient points before here


As to the blacks get picked by the cops unfairly angle...one of the few attempts at investigating whether police do victimise blacks for minor criminal matters based on their colour and not differing offending rates was done when the New Jersey highway patrol were accused of being racists for stopping more blacks in traffic stops.... So they divisied a clever study by measuring the speed of cars on a stretch of freeway (covertly) whilst also photographing the drivers of the cars concerned (again covertly).

A panel of people where then asked to try and establish the ethnicity of the drivers photographed but crucially they didn't know what the recorded speed of the corresponding cars was and didn't know if the vehicle was exceeding the speed limit or not.

The results of the study showed that the drivers identified as black were apparently speeding disproportianally when compared to the actual stop ratios for the police suggesting the police should be stopping more black drivers if they were acting on the basis of offending activity alone whilst ignoring ethnicity!

https://www.nytimes.com/2002/03/27/nyregion/racial-study-of-speeders-is-released-in-new-jersey.html
 
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They assimilate to some of the generally inferior cultures present in many different ethnicities in the US.



You were literally the first person to bring up race/ ethnicities in the thread when it was a subject that was not explicitly linked to race.

You head must be spinning from the amount of spin and projection you put out.

Go look at the stats on violent crime (including that as reported by victims of crime) before you make yourself look any sillier.

If you can't be bothered to go looking I summarised some of the salient points before here


As to the blacks get picked by the cops unfairly angle...one of the few attempts at investigating whether police do victimise blacks for minor criminal matters based on their colour and not differing offending rates was done when the New Jersey highway patrol were accused of being racists for stopping more blacks in traffic stops.... So they divisied a clever study by measuring the speed of cars on a stretch of freeway (covertly) whilst also photographing the drivers of the cars concerned (again covertly).

A panel of people where then asked to try and establish the ethnicity of the drivers photographed but crucially they didn't know what the recorded speed of the corresponding cars was and didn't know if the vehicle was exceeding the speed limit or not.

The results of the study showed that the drivers identified as black were apparently speeding disproportianally when compared to the actual stop ratios for the police suggesting the police should be stopping more black drivers if they were acting on the basis of offending activity alone whilst ignoring ethnicity!

https://www.nytimes.com/2002/03/27/nyregion/racial-study-of-speeders-is-released-in-new-jersey.html

OK you just believe the police and the justice system, even in the USA is fair then.

That completely ends our conversation because that's obviously ludicrous and you're just picking up tiny bits of pro fair propoganda.

Endless cases of black people locked up for decades for minor offences and you are ignoring that....right ok.

I'll leave you to it, you're a bizarre person.
 
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OK you just believe the police and the justice system, even in the USA is fair then.

That completely ends our conversation because that's obviously ludicrous and you're just picking up tiny bits of pro fair propoganda.

Endless cases of black people locked up for decades for minor offences and you are ignoring that....right ok.

I'll leave you to it, you're a bizarre person.

If they feel they are being unfairly discriminated against and have better job prospects elsewhere, why don't they move?

You have south americas just under the border, or Canada above and basically the whole world.

Surely they can find a place that will welcome hardworking skilled people?
 
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I don't doubt there is some crime on UK railways, British Transport police exist for a reason etc.. but has anyone ever heard or seen of it happening at this scale?

This is in LA, apparently, only a Month after this section of track was already cleared up:



That seems like an insane amount of stuff stolen/boxes broken from containers and ripped open!


Ronnie Biggs calls from above "Messy bloody amateurs" :)
 
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OK you just believe the police and the justice system, even in the USA is fair then.

That completely ends our conversation because that's obviously ludicrous and you're just picking up tiny bits of pro fair propoganda.

Endless cases of black people locked up for decades for minor offences and you are ignoring that....right ok.

I'll leave you to it, you're a bizarre person.

Hate to break it to you but life isn't fair, sometimes there just isn't anything you can do to change that.
 
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Ive been up all night stressing about this and....

is burglary strictly the right word to use on a train robbery?

Then that got me thinking about The Hamburglar. From here it was a slippery slope to Grimace and Mayor Mc Cheese.

My nearest McDonalds is about 30Km drive.
 
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Ive been up all night stressing about this and....

is burglary strictly the right word to use on a train robbery?

Then that got me thinking about The Hamburglar. From here it was a slippery slope to Grimace and Mayor Mc Cheese.

My nearest McDonalds is about 30Km drive.

Nice Sunday stroll, off you go!
 
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