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If you go with Toob might be worth paying extra for static which is £8 and Quidco has £90 cashback offer on.

Sometimes providers sites take longer to update over the likes of CityFibre/Openreach site.

A friend just had this issue BT showed unavailable yet he could order plusnet.
 
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Decided on IDNet seems to have a better reliability, reputation and support from what I read. Need it for work so can't be having any issues.
 
Just trying to decide between Toob and IDNet now, am tempted to go for IDNet as its a better package and support seems decent. 15 quid more a month though. Not fussed about Aquiss as they don't provide a router anyway just thought it was odd some don't provide for all locations.
Idnet I think you made the right choice. Idnet was who I was looking at from the list of supported ISP. I was about to pull the trigger on the 1200meg product as the 2gig product was over the £50 I would be happy paying for decent broadband. then looking around on some forums see Aquiss, did a bit of research. From what I can see they tick all the boxes to be a decent ISP that don't use CGNAT just like Idnet. I've been using my own router as well anyways, so was something I didn't need to worry about. fingers crossed they're good .
 
IDNet use Zen’s network, historically that wasn’t a bad thing, but it does mean instead of your ISP having direct access and control/monitoring of it’s network, you have added a layer of complexity whereby any issue now needs to be investigated initially by IDNet, then logged with Zen, and you wait for Zen to come back to IDNet who then come back to you. In fairness, it’s not that much different to any of the other small providers who subcontract backhaul and/or core functions to a 3rd party and don’t own/operate themselves, and it’s unlikely most people will ever experience (and notice) something that requires this level of investigation, other than perhaps via a large scale issue, and that’s going to get a priority response anyway.

As to quality ISP’s, Martin @ Aquiss is top tier, professional and knowledgable, he’s also happy to help and advise, the only issue is you are buying ‘Martin’ and while he is amazingly responsive (even out of hours), a point will come where that doesn’t scale. Other considerations are he’s PPPoE only, so for devices like the UDMP/SE etc. without hardware acceleration, that’s potentially going to be a problem, but firmware updates seem to have made it less so at gigabit speeds.
 
IDNet use Zen’s network, historically that wasn’t a bad thing, but it does mean instead of your ISP having direct access and control/monitoring of it’s network, you have added a layer of complexity whereby any issue now needs to be investigated initially by IDNet, then logged with Zen, and you wait for Zen to come back to IDNet who then come back to you. In fairness, it’s not that much different to any of the other small providers who subcontract backhaul and/or core functions to a 3rd party and don’t own/operate themselves, and it’s unlikely most people will ever experience (and notice) something that requires this level of investigation, other than perhaps via a large scale issue, and that’s going to get a priority response anyway.

As to quality ISP’s, Martin @ Aquiss is top tier, professional and knowledgable, he’s also happy to help and advise, the only issue is you are buying ‘Martin’ and while he is amazingly responsive (even out of hours), a point will come where that doesn’t scale. Other considerations are he’s PPPoE only, so for devices like the UDMP/SE etc. without hardware acceleration, that’s potentially going to be a problem, but firmware updates seem to have made it less so at gigabit speeds.
Don't think they use Zen on Cityfibre Idnet
 
the only issue is you are buying ‘Martin’ and while he is amazingly responsive (even out of hours), a point will come where that doesn’t scale.

Good Afternoon,

I thought it would be best to register and comment on this, as it's not correct, at the time of writing.

Whilst back in the early days of the business, that would have been correct, for the best part of 10 years, those calling in may have also spoken to a couple of members of staff other than myself. This year alone, a couple of new members have joined the business, bringing the headcount to 5. So whilst I do appreciate the comment, it would be unfair on the rest of my team if their good work was not acknowledged.
 
My parents are having issues.

They signed up for No One back in 2023 (some people may remember the posts on the awful work from CityFibre) and as people know this side of the business was sold to Home Telecom.

No One service was activated December 5th 2023 yet Home Telecom are claiming they have to pay a penalty for leaving before Feb 2026 and also threatening they will charge a large sum on top for not returning the router.

This was the info they received when arranging to move to a different service which will if all goes well take place December 31.
I think their system is just a mess. When I spoke to them around the time I started a transfer from them they mentioned their system shows the contract start date as some months after it actually was. I think after explaining the No One situation and suggesting that could be the date that we got moved into their system they backed off though. After we moved out and I spoke to them again they said I was indeed out of contract so there shouldn't be any fees. I've not been told anything about returning the router.
 
Good Afternoon,

I thought it would be best to register and comment on this, as it's not correct, at the time of writing.

Whilst back in the early days of the business, that would have been correct, for the best part of 10 years, those calling in may have also spoken to a couple of members of staff other than myself. This year alone, a couple of new members have joined the business, bringing the headcount to 5. So whilst I do appreciate the comment, it would be unfair on the rest of my team if their good work was not acknowledged.
Mr Pitt has joined the chat!

I was under the impression it was just the two of you, with you handling the technical side, nice to see things expanding off the back of the reputation you’ve built. Then again, some of your supposed peers do seem hell bent on making everyone else look good… another Martin springs to mind :D
 
Mr Pitt has joined the chat!

I was under the impression it was just the two of you, with you handling the technical side, nice to see things expanding off the back of the reputation you’ve built. Then again, some of your supposed peers do seem hell bent on making everyone else look good… another Martin springs to mind :D

*play the entrance music - the crowds go wild!* :cry:

I almost had a downing of keyboards yesterday when I told everyone they were no longer required :p

As for the comedy, it's a giggle a week....we're certainly enjoying the entertainment!
 
IDNet use Zen’s network, historically that wasn’t a bad thing, but it does mean instead of your ISP having direct access and control/monitoring of it’s network, you have added a layer of complexity whereby any issue now needs to be investigated initially by IDNet, then logged with Zen, and you wait for Zen to come back to IDNet who then come back to you. In fairness, it’s not that much different to any of the other small providers who subcontract backhaul and/or core functions to a 3rd party and don’t own/operate themselves, and it’s unlikely most people will ever experience (and notice) something that requires this level of investigation, other than perhaps via a large scale issue, and that’s going to get a priority response anyway.

As to quality ISP’s, Martin @ Aquiss is top tier, professional and knowledgable, he’s also happy to help and advise, the only issue is you are buying ‘Martin’ and while he is amazingly responsive (even out of hours), a point will come where that doesn’t scale. Other considerations are he’s PPPoE only, so for devices like the UDMP/SE etc. without hardware acceleration, that’s potentially going to be a problem, but firmware updates seem to have made it less so at gigabit speeds.
IDNet told me they didn’t use Zen’s backhaul on CityFibre.
 
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Good Afternoon,

I thought it would be best to register and comment on this, as it's not correct, at the time of writing.

Whilst back in the early days of the business, that would have been correct, for the best part of 10 years, those calling in may have also spoken to a couple of members of staff other than myself. This year alone, a couple of new members have joined the business, bringing the headcount to 5. So whilst I do appreciate the comment, it would be unfair on the rest of my team if their good work was not acknowledged.
Got to say First day with Aquiss today has already proven to me I made the right choice... had to phone them as my router crapped out and Martin was ace with helping me, Turns out I need a new router to get 2.5gb which is a bit of a pain as I thought my Asus router had that covered, but that's not Aquiss fault at all. Ordered the router Martin recommended and will get that sorted tomorrow when it arrives.

What I can say is the latency is great best out of the 4 isp's ive been with on Cityfibre, as a keen gamer its right up there for me as important! getting 1.7ms on the speed tester site
 
Got to say First day with Aquiss today has already proven to me I made the right choice... had to phone them as my router crapped out and Martin was ace with helping me, Turns out I need a new router to get 2.5gb which is a bit of a pain as I thought my Asus router had that covered, but that's not Aquiss fault at all. Ordered the router Martin recommended and will get that sorted tomorrow when it arrives.

What I can say is the latency is great best out of the 4 isp's ive been with on Cityfibre, as a keen gamer its right up there for me as important! getting 1.7ms on the speed tester site
Getting rid of a the security liability of a ASUS router, Martin did you a favour.
 
The CityFibre website also didn't list Aquiss for me. I raised a ticket and Martin added my address so I could register for their service.
 
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The CityFibre website also didn't list Aquiss for me. I raised a ticket and Martin and he added my address so I could register for their service

That's good then, so far I've been pretty happy with the connection it's all working well.

Only gripe so far is that steam games don't seem to hit anywhere near full potential peaking at 1.5gb but quite often sitting at the same speeds as my 900meg connection was. My m8 has a 2gb connection with Trooli and he seems to be getting a nice 2GB speeds on Steam and Microsoft servers on the same files. Lets face it large games is where you want these fast speeds when downloading 100GB+
 
Only gripe so far is that steam games don't seem to hit anywhere near full potential peaking at 1.5gb........Steam and Microsoft servers

We have no traffic management on the network at all, therefore an limiting of speeds is not coming from our side. We also have a direct 100Gbps link into Microsoft that is no where near capacity.
 
We have no traffic management on the network at all, therefore a limiting of speeds is not coming from our side. We also have a direct 100Gbps link into Microsoft that is no where near capacity.
Do you publish a peering capacity breakdown at all? It’s one of the things that is rarely discussed outside of raw capacity by other ISP’s, though the CF Reddit used to have a spreadsheet detailing breakdown by provider/location.
 
Do you publish a peering capacity breakdown at all? It’s one of the things that is rarely discussed outside of raw capacity by other ISP’s, though the CF Reddit used to have a spreadsheet detailing breakdown by provider/location.

Not in public, as its commercially sensitive data.
 
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