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  1. Above&Beyond

    The "New Gear/Willy Waving" thread

    You are making some ridiculous statements in this thread. Post your proof.
  2. Above&Beyond

    The "New Gear/Willy Waving" thread

    No, but you're using the Sigma wrongly in that case. Practice more and you'll find they are very evenly matched.
  3. Above&Beyond

    The "New Gear/Willy Waving" thread

    A load of fan boy nonsense.
  4. Above&Beyond

    Tower block fire - london

    What do you want them to print, a picture of a fridge?
  5. Above&Beyond

    Tower block fire - london

    The Daily Mail won newspaper of the year at the Press Awards, so it is doing something right.
  6. Above&Beyond

    Tower block fire - london

    The story said 'Mr Kebede banged on a neighbour's door and alerted her to the fire, potentially saving many lives'. Do people actually read the story first or just jump to wild conclusions?
  7. Above&Beyond

    Tower block fire - london

    The forensic architect said it was aluminium sandwiched with a fireproof core but that the gap could have acted like a chimney. But they must have pretty smart people working out the risks of that?
  8. Above&Beyond

    Tower block fire - london

    Forensic architect on BBC speculating on the cladding acting as a chimney theory.
  9. Above&Beyond

    Tower block fire - london

    The advice to stay in your house seems to be rather poor if this sort of fire takes hold. The cladding is looking the likely culprit as to why it spread so quickly.
  10. Above&Beyond

    Tower block fire - london

    I thought it was quite a high figure, some reports are 400-600.
  11. Above&Beyond

    Tower block fire - london

    600 people the news said.
  12. Above&Beyond

    Tower block fire - london

    Or just fit a sprinkler system. A load of people on fire abseiling down a burning building would be a horrific sight.
  13. Above&Beyond

    Tower block fire - london

    It was a raging inferno with the building falling to pieces, not exactly the best place to set up a bouncy castle to catch people.
  14. Above&Beyond

    Tower block fire - london

    A load of firemen standing under a roasting hot burning building where great chunks of masonry are falling 200ft doesn't seem a great idea even if they had access to such a device. It said the firemen had trouble even getting in the building never mind rigging up nets and other contraptions.
  15. Above&Beyond

    Exit Poll: UK General Election 2017 - Results discussion and OcUK Exit Poll - Closing 8th July

    Because Brexit won't wreck the economy. They sell more to us than we do to them.
  16. Above&Beyond

    Tower block fire - london

    Because it isn't the movies.
  17. Above&Beyond

    Exit Poll: UK General Election 2017 - Results discussion and OcUK Exit Poll - Closing 8th July

    Then I'd give it 6 months 1 day until they are banged up smearing their dung on the cell walls.
  18. Above&Beyond

    Exit Poll: UK General Election 2017 - Results discussion and OcUK Exit Poll - Closing 8th July

    He didn't even win the popular vote, is what you are saying? His seat return is in line with Gordon Brown and that is despite some other parties helping Labour out by not running in some seats and tactical voting being pushed as a method for keeping the Tories (who ran the worst campaign in...
  19. Above&Beyond

    Exit Poll: UK General Election 2017 - Results discussion and OcUK Exit Poll - Closing 8th July

    Labour lost by a long way. Celebrating this loss is like celebrating a 3-0 defeat when you were expected to get beaten 6-0. The PLP and Blairites won't ever get on board with going back to the 1970s and the centrist vote won't either.
  20. Above&Beyond

    Exit Poll: UK General Election 2017 - Results discussion and OcUK Exit Poll - Closing 8th July

    The Tories won Copeland that had been Labour for 80 years, so what's your point?
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