Students = Cheap windows 7

Sparky__H · 2 Oct 2009 at 11:38

well I feel retarded. My Student MsdnAA account is still active. So now i have two licences. Ahh well my media centre is being upgraded it seems.

Vonsteve · 2 Oct 2009 at 11:42

madindehead said:
I'm hoping to download mine soon from MSDNAA also. Just need my uni to get back to me. As long as you have a processor that can run 64 bit, then I see no reason not to get it.

Awesome! I downloaded and installed last night, probably the fastest windows install I've ever done

loving it so far, going to go for 32bit version for my desktop so I can get the drivers for my TV card as they never released them for 64bit when they went bust

Cavallino · 2 Oct 2009 at 11:44

Faster? Slower than Vista ?

Vonsteve · 2 Oct 2009 at 11:48

Cavallino said:
Faster? Slower than Vista ?

You really need to ask?

Richy1204 · 2 Oct 2009 at 17:49

"Have you pre-ordered your copy of Win 7 yet?"

No not yet

How long is the offer on for ?

Im just waiting for my free shipping to order a 1TB hdd for w7

Kyle009 · 2 Oct 2009 at 18:12

Very very tempted although I might wait for the 22nd to roll around and then you guys can report back as to what you get (if its an ISO or what not). Got legit copys of XP in the house but don't fancy having to install them to upgrade all the time.

Cavallino · 2 Oct 2009 at 18:32

Vonsteve said:
You really need to ask?

Well considering most people have been using builds and not the actual release I was curious yes

madindehead · 2 Oct 2009 at 18:38

I just want to know if it will clean install ok, if I have to enter an OEM key. I had Windows Vista OEM on my system. Now using Window 7. So, if I clean install over Windows 7 with Windows 7 Pro Upgrade, will I need to enter something from my OEM version?

Just hope I can get it off MSDNAA instead of this. Just out of interest, what versions of Windows 7 are on MSDNAA? Home Premium, Pro and Ultimate? Or just HP and Pro?

Daegan · 2 Oct 2009 at 18:40

madindehead said:
Just out of interest, what versions of Windows 7 are on MSDNAA? Home Premium, Pro and Ultimate? Or just HP and Pro?

Just Professional.

Sparky__H · 2 Oct 2009 at 18:41

madindehead said:
I just want to know if it will clean install ok, if I have to enter an OEM key. I had Windows Vista OEM on my system. Now using Window 7. So, if I clean install over Windows 7 with Windows 7 Pro Upgrade, will I need to enter something from my OEM version?

Just hope I can get it off MSDNAA instead of this. Just out of interest, what versions of Windows 7 are on MSDNAA? Home Premium, Pro and Ultimate? Or just HP and Pro?

Mine had 32 or 64bit pro DVD. Offered full or upgrade options. Running it now and 7 is much smoother then vista was. Biggest improvement so far is file transfer.

madindehead · 2 Oct 2009 at 18:43

That's sweet. The guy said he would get back to me soon on it =D

So, within the week, I'm hoping I'll have proper W7.

Fire Wizard · 2 Oct 2009 at 19:23

madindehead said:
I had an OEM version of Vista on my PC before. Having now changed my mobo, that won't work, but I am running Windows 7 RC currently.

I should be ok to get an upgrade version right?

To comply with the licensing terms, no, I'm afraid you're not eligible for an Upgrade license of Windows 7. The reason being is that because you have an OEM license, which is tied to the first machine (motherboard) you installed it on, if you change your motherboard, the OEM license will not be valid for that second motherboard which then means an Upgrade license will also not be valid.

Windows 7 Release Candidate also does not full into a fully licensed operating system which you need to be eligible for an Upgrade license.

mglover070588 said:
The Vista I have installed has got a key but it has been thrown out. I have an xp disk I got with the pc though. Could I use that? Or would I have to install xp first and then upgrade?

As long as you have a fully licensed copy of a previous version of Windows for a system already, you are eligible for an Upgrade license for that same system.

Cavallino said:
Sheez. Just remembered. I have an OEM version of Vista HP. Would the upgrade still work?

Yes, an Upgrade license will be absolutely fine.

stopstartstall said:
It can't only be an upgrade edition. It talks about the possibiliy of upgrading from XP to W7 Home Premium and says you have to do so via a clean install - which these discs allow you to do.

No, it is an Upgrade license. I think people are getting confused as to what Microsoft are referring to when they list Windows 7 as an "Upgrade". When Microsoft are selling Windows as an "Upgrade", like Windows 7 Professional Upgrade, they are referring to the licensing terms of the product, just like a Retail or an OEM license. They are not referring to the installation method, like for example, a "Clean" or an "In-place upgrade". Since there are scenarios where a clean installation must be done, like migrating over from Windows Vista Ultimate to Windows 7 Home Premium.

As long as the user has a fully licensed copy of a previous version of Windows, then an Upgrade license can be used for that machine. If the user meets these terms, then weather they do a "Clean" or an "In-place upgrade" becomes completely irreverent.

madindehead · 2 Oct 2009 at 20:20

Fire Wizard said:
To comply with the licensing terms, no, I'm afraid you're not eligible for an Upgrade license of Windows 7. The reason being is that because you have an OEM license, which is tied to the first machine (motherboard) you installed it on, if you change your motherboard, the OEM license will not be valid for that second motherboard which then means an Upgrade license will also not be valid.

Windows 7 Release Candidate also does not full into a fully licensed operating system which you need to be eligible for an Upgrade license.

Thanks for clearing that up at least FireWizard. The whole licensing issue can get quite confusing sometimes. Either way, if I get it off MSDNAA it's good, and I also have a pre-order if everything else fails. I should be fine come October 22. I will keep you lot updated on how my MSDNAA thing goes though.

Cavallino · 2 Oct 2009 at 20:40

For OEMS, what if you suffer damage on your PC and had to buy a new mobo? Surely you would still be eliglbe to transfer your license to the new mobo?

NickM · 2 Oct 2009 at 20:41

Fire Wizard said:
As long as the user has a fully licensed copy of a previous version of Windows, then an Upgrade license can be used for that machine. If the user meets these terms, then weather they do a "Clean" or an "In-place upgrade" becomes completely irreverent.

So no actual proof of a previous version of Windows will be required? I can format my current Vista install and then install this Student offer version without the need to reinstall vista/enter my vista key?

Since its possible to do a clean install I assume that it will be possible to burn whatever file they give you to a bootable dvd format (if its not an iso that you download)?

Fire Wizard · 2 Oct 2009 at 20:56

Cavallino said:
For OEMS, what if you suffer damage on your PC and had to buy a new mobo? Surely you would still be eliglbe to transfer your license to the new mobo?

Yep, if you are replacing your motherboard under warranty purposes, then transferring your license is absolutely fine.

NickM said:
So no actual proof of a previous version of Windows will be required? I can format my current Vista install and then install this Student offer version without the need to reinstall vista/enter my vista key?

Sorry, I probably didn't make it very clear. The important part is that you need a fully licensed copy of a previous version of Windows to be eligible for an Upgrade license. As you can imagine though, this could be easily exploited. So, Microsoft will put some measures in place to try and prevent this by verifying the user does actually have a legitimate copy of an older version of Windows. Though, I'm not entirely sure how Microsoft are going about this so I can't really say any-more on the matter.

What I was trying to get at with regards to saying the installation method is irreverent, is if you're unable to do a clean installation. If there is a workaround so the user is then able to do a clean installation instead of an in-place upgrade, then I can't see that being a problem at all since it's got nothing to do with the licensing terms.

rexehuk · 2 Oct 2009 at 22:26

Guys... I have windows vista ultimate currently.

If I purchase this student upgrade, I notice it says "Upgrade", can I format and reinstall Windows 7? Or do I have to upgrade from vista to windows 7? If the latter it seems like a pain...

Vonsteve · 2 Oct 2009 at 23:37

Cavallino said:
Well considering most people have been using builds and not the actual release I was curious yes

My bad, I assumed it was available now. Yeah it's VASTLY faster than Vista! Boot time still isn't rapid but I'm hoping to buy an SSD for my laptop

Eliot · 3 Oct 2009 at 00:19

sparky what did you have to do with the iso the msdnaa gives you to get it to work, mine wont mount?

unwashed potato! · 3 Oct 2009 at 00:28

how would you find your vista key? my brother has decided to try win7 as it's only £30 but he doesn't know where his key would be for vista. What if he bought win7, then when installing it asks for his old key and he doesn't have it, will he then not be able to install?

how would he know if he can get is from msdnaa? he has a uni email and thats all he knows. He isn't doing a computer course btw

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