Greenlizard0 Weekend Football Thread ** spoilers ** [3rd - 5th October 2014]

He was moving as soon as the camera went to his face which was a few seconds after the hit. Obviously that doesn't matter to frank
 
FrankJH said:
He was still out cold on the pitch - but obviously that doesnt matter to anyone
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I do love how over the course of one summer everyone is an expert on diagnosing a concussion from a few longer range images on tv, doctors know nothing, fans can diagnose concussion.


Seriously there seems to have been a general shift to everyone thinking a head knock or unconsciousness = concussion.... which is rubbish. You know who can diagnose concussion better than you, a CT scan of his brain, a trained doctor who can monitor him and check for symptoms.

Has seriously no one ever been smashed to the ground and you were simply a bit surprised, or a bit winded and didn't move because you didn't want to ******* move. Not moving for a few seconds doesn't mean someone is unconscious either.

It's amazing the lack of logical thinking people have these days, boxers go through matches more often than not without a concussion, but everyone thinks every head knock causes a concussion now?

The body's natural instinct after a big hit is to stay still and let your body decide if it's injured or not.

There is absolutely no obvious signs he was unconscious, people with medical training have cleared him as not having a concussion. You don't take someone off the pitch who has no actual symptoms of concussion, symptoms of a concussion more often than not take 5-15 minutes to develop, each and every situation in which a player was fine then got worse in 5-15 minutes was removed from the pitch and taken to be monitored by doctors, every case(probably 95+%) of big hits on the pitch players go on and are fine and they don't get reported as having actually played through a concussion.
 
drunkenmaster said:
I do love how over the course of one summer everyone is an expert on diagnosing a concussion from a few longer range images on tv, doctors know nothing, fans can diagnose concussion.
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That's a bit rich, coming from you? You seem to be able to understand a football manager/teams complete thoughts/workings/reasons all from your keyboard.
 
Stones is out for 10 to 14 weeks and needs surgery.


Well in Martinez you ****ing helmet.
 
CasKirensys said:
Ozil gets a lot of unfair stick. Everyone struggles when played out of position.
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What, people struggle when they can't be bothered and other people make excuses for them. First of all he played wide loads and winning a world cup(though he was the worst player on that team). Second he's played centrally loads and rarely played wide last year and his form dropped off last year. He's played centrally this year and has been poor and started wide or centrally he plays in the same areas anyway in the exact same way.

He's not a holding midfielder who on occasion and out of the blue is asked to play in a completely different way to normal, run with the ball at his feet, hug the touchline and whip in dangerous crosses. He sits a little deep of the front line and finds space to pass the ball, he does this where ever he's started, he is absolutely not being asked to play some completely different role.


It's been stated(I don't know if based on anything Wenger has said) that Ozil has been played wide more in tougher games because he can't be trusted centrally to get involved either physically with tougher central midfielders/defenders or to get back and defend or mark key central areas as he should. It wouldn't surprise me if that is the reason why he's played wide more often.

Plenty of players are adaptable and I can't think of any players who asked to play the exact same way, 15 yards to the left, should be suddenly crap. If he was being asked to play very differently that would be one thing but he's not and he doesn't.
 
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