Don't have a fit, Fox

Clarkey · 23 Apr 2006 at 14:02

stretched tyres for the lose, whats the matter, can't afford the proper size ones? Also looks quite dangerous if you ask me.

N3M · 23 Apr 2006 at 14:18

Clarkey said:
stretched tyres for the lose, whats the matter, can't afford the proper size ones?

LMAO, good call... I look at them and think...just how safe is that?!

Zip · 23 Apr 2006 at 14:34

I dont like this look.
And i really dont like the Iron Cross. Why do people use it so many things these days?
Its a symbol of Nazi germany and i find it offencive to a degree and i find it disrepectfull to all those that fought and died against the Nazis.

Thats my view.

Scuzi · 23 Apr 2006 at 14:35

The fake rust looks really crap, it completely ruins it. If a better job had been done on it, the car might look better but the rust is so obviously fake it has ruined the look.

Look at this pic for example:

It looks like a wood effect on the wheelarch. It really is a poor effort. Maybe I'm just used to seeing better work in this sort of thing as my dad is a special effects artist, but even from a glance it's obvious that the paint effect is a failure.

Apart from that it's not bad.

Kamerad · 23 Apr 2006 at 14:37

Zip said:
Its a symbol of Nazi germany and i find it offencive to a degree and i find it disrepectfull to all those that fought and died against the Nazis.

Its not a symbol of Nazi Germany its a symbol of the German Military and is still in use today.

The_Dark_Side · 23 Apr 2006 at 14:39

Zip said:
I dont like this look.
And i really dont like the Iron Cross. Why do people use it so many things these days?
Its a symbol of Nazi germany and i find it offencive to a degree and i find it disrepectfull to all those that fought and died against the Nazis.

Thats my view.

to the best of my knowledge you're mistaking the Iron Cross and the Swastika my friend.

Ultra_Extreme · 23 Apr 2006 at 14:39

Zip said:
I dont like this look.
And i really dont like the Iron Cross. Why do people use it so many things these days?
Its a symbol of Nazi germany and i find it offencive to a degree and i find it disrepectfull to all those that fought and died against the Nazis.

Thats my view.

The schwazstika (or however the hell its spelt) Was the symbol of the nazi pary dude, not that cross, thats been used all over for many things. Quite a number of military medals use it

i mean, recognise this

The medal given to the bravest and best of those people you deem to be defending.

Zip · 23 Apr 2006 at 14:43

The_Dark_Side said:
to the best of my knowledge you're mistaking the Iron Cross and the Swastika my friend.

I know what they both are.

I didnt know they still used it today but i hate the way they put it on cloths, fasion items and that car.

I still think they shouldnt be allowed to do that. Even if they still use it, it should be kept for military use only.
You dont see people walking around with the victoria cross on there cloths do you?
No, because it doesnt look as hard and tough as the status the iron cross has

The_Dark_Side · 23 Apr 2006 at 14:49

Zip said:
I know what they both are.

I didnt know they still used it today but i hate the way they put it on cloths, fasion items and that car.

I still think they shouldnt be allowed to do that. Even if they still use it, it should be kept for military use only.
You dont see people walking around with the victoria cross on there cloths do you?
No, because it doesnt look as hard and tough as the status the iron cross has

the mod movement in the UK used the same symbol the RAF use, don't you think that's the same?

Zip · 23 Apr 2006 at 14:51

The_Dark_Side said:
the mod movement in the UK used the same symbol the RAF use, don't you think that's the same?

The mod movement is a movment it seems, i dont know what they are coz they arnt down here in oz.

But the Iron cross keeps on being used as some sort of fasion statment.

penski · 23 Apr 2006 at 14:53

Zip said:
I know what they both are.

I didnt know they still used it today but i hate the way they put it on cloths, fasion items and that car.

I still think they shouldnt be allowed to do that. Even if they still use it, it should be kept for military use only.
You dont see people walking around with the victoria cross on there cloths do you?
No, because it doesnt look as hard and tough as the status the iron cross has

My next tattoo is going to incorporate swastikas. Are you narrow-minded enough to have a fit over that or do you see the bigger picture and realise that the swastika is a symbol of peace, love, luck and unity which has been used by many different races, religions and cultures for many, many thousands of years?

*n

The_Dark_Side · 23 Apr 2006 at 14:54

Zip said:
The mod movement is a movment it seems, i dont know what they are coz they arnt down here in oz.

But the Iron cross keeps on being used as some sort of fasion statment.

fashion is always going to borrow from the establishment and that includes the military.
combat/cargo pants came from uniforms for example.
trust me mate, the iron cross doesn't have any overtones of Nazism.it was around before and after their brief period of influence.

Zip · 23 Apr 2006 at 14:56

penski said:
My next tattoo is going to incorporate swastikas. Are you narrow-minded enough to have a fit over that or do you see the bigger picture and realise that the swastika is a symbol of peace, love, luck and unity which has been used by many different races, religions and cultures for many, many thousands of years?

*n

No, i do reliese that it was used on a statue of a budda or something similar like that before the Nazis got there hands on it

I knew it had been around abit on things like that but the Nazis ruined its image.
Ask most people what they think of when they see the swastikas and you will see what i mean

penski · 23 Apr 2006 at 14:57

Clarkey said:
stretched tyres for the lose, whats the matter, can't afford the proper size ones? Also looks quite dangerous if you ask me.

Look at the type of cars that sport stretched tyres...Do you really think that the owner/builder couldn't afford an extra £200 for some wider rubber? :rolleyes:

N3M said:
LMAO, good call... I look at them and think...just how safe is that?!

They're perfectly safe. Would you agree that drift cars put immense forces onto their tyres that road cars don't experience? Look at their lovely, stretched rubber

Stretching tyres allows you to go lower and fit wider wheels without scrubbing...Besides, I love the way it looks

*n

The_Dark_Side · 23 Apr 2006 at 14:58

penski said:
My next tattoo is going to incorporate swastikas. Are you narrow-minded enough to have a fit over that or do you see the bigger picture and realise that the swastika is a symbol of peace, love, luck and unity which has been used by many different races, religions and cultures for many, many thousands of years?

*n

true but it's WAY more commonly assosciated with the dark side (no pun intended).
hey i don't know you and i'm not one to generalise, but by your appearance and taste in cars i'd guess you'll like the shock value of a swastika tattoo.
who the hell am i but i think it's a mistake and will give you some unwanted attention.i don't want to dramatise but it could cause you more than a few problems.

penski · 23 Apr 2006 at 14:59

Scuzi said:
The fake rust looks really crap, it completely ruins it. If a better job had been done on it, the car might look better but the rust is so obviously fake it has ruined the look.

Look at this pic for example:

It looks like a wood effect on the wheelarch. It really is a poor effort. Maybe I'm just used to seeing better work in this sort of thing as my dad is a special effects artist, but even from a glance it's obvious that the paint effect is a failure.

Apart from that it's not bad.

I can't quite work out if it's supposed to be rust or if it's supposed to look like patina from storage (the runs down the sides of the doors et cetera)...

Either way, I like the look and love the motorbike/chopper influences.

*n

penski · 23 Apr 2006 at 15:01

The_Dark_Side said:
true but it's WAY more commonly assosciated with the dark side (no pun intended).
hey i don't know you and i'm not one to generalise, but by your appearance and taste in cars i'd guess you'll like the shock value of a swastika tattoo.
who the hell am i but i think it's a mistake and will give you some unwanted attention.i don't want to dramatise but it could cause you more than a few problems.

Being that it'll be betwixt my shoulder blades, I can't imagine it causing too many issues with narrow-minded peons

It's nothing about shock value; it's a genuine love for the aesthetic and feeling behind the way I look, the cars I like and so on...

*n

The_Dark_Side · 23 Apr 2006 at 15:02

penski said:
Being that it'll be betwixt my shoulder blades, I can't imagine it causing too many issues with narrow-minded peons

It's nothing about shock value; it's a genuine love for the aesthetic and feeling behind the way I look, the cars I like and so on...

*n

i can honestly believe you.
but i think with a wry smile you do like the shock/controverial side of the line too.

Dogbreath · 23 Apr 2006 at 15:04

Can't any point in making a car look like a rusty old banger, and to be honest it looks like someone has spilt a giant cup of coffee onto it rather than it being rusty. If it started out as an old banger and has had monster engine transplant etc. then fair enough, but this seems to be a complete waste of time.

penski · 23 Apr 2006 at 15:05

Zip said:
No, i do reliese that it was used on a statue of a budda or something similar like that before the Nazis got there hands on it
I knew it had been around abit on things like that but the Nazis ruined its image.
Ask most people what they think of when they see the swastikas and you will see what i mean

http://www.flyfootpress.com/GentleSwastika/index.html

http://www.manwoman.net/swastika/swastika.html

It's a great book.

*n