Upsampling DVDs using a PC?

Jimbo Mahoney · 16 Apr 2006 at 10:46

EDIT - Ignore all this, you can just use FFDShow with MediaPlayerClassic

Hey guys,

Has anyone done this?

If so, what programs would you recommend?

I've tried this method:

http://www.htpcnews.com/main.php?id=ffdshowdvd_1

but couldn't get the audio to 5.1 channel, only stereo. Any ideas?

Thanks!

Jimbo Mahoney · 16 Apr 2006 at 13:50

OK, got the 5.1 working by using the FFDShow Audio Decoder instead of Cyberlink or Sonic one.

Sweet

EDIT - Upsampling to "1200p" on my 1600 x 1200 22" CRT.

Jimbo Mahoney · 17 Apr 2006 at 11:02

OK, so I figured TTIUWP, so here's one from Matrix Revolutions:

(I've had to downsample the upsampled image to display it here LOL)

Original:

Upsampling and unsharpening:

On the system in sig, I get ~50% CPU usage.

Kol · 17 Apr 2006 at 11:05

Nicely done mate. Fancy writing a mini tutorial for those less knowledgable?

/read, me.

Jimbo Mahoney · 17 Apr 2006 at 11:09

Mikol said:
Nicely done mate. Fancy writing a mini tutorial for those less knowledgable?

/read, me.

EDIT - Just use MediaPlayerClassic and the external filter FFDShow.

(If you want to use Zoom Player:

It's all in the first link dude.

You need to buy a couple of things, but they are like $15 each or something.

You may also need these otherwise you get connection errors in Zoom Player:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/james.waynewright/Sonic.reg

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/james.waynewright/SonicCineMaster2.2_.videodecoder

(Right click, save as).

Run the .reg file and copy the cinemaster file into the Zoom Player/DS Filters directory.)

Kol · 17 Apr 2006 at 11:16

Jimbo Mahoney said:
It's all in the first link dude.

You need to buy a couple of things, but they are like $15 each or something.

You may also need these otherwise you get connection errors in Zoom Player:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/james.waynewright/Sonic.reg

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/james.waynewright/SonicCineMaster2.2_.videodecoder

(Right click, save as).

Run the .reg file and copy the cinemaster file into the Zoom Player/DS Filters directory.

Ouch, please forgive me for not reading. Sorry chap! Thanks for the links

Goatboy · 17 Apr 2006 at 11:26

Media player classic is free and will do the same job as zoom player.

Jimbo Mahoney · 17 Apr 2006 at 12:39

Goatboy said:
Media player classic is free and will do the same job as zoom player.

Correct, except you can't give the video to FFDShow to do the processing.

You can with DIVX etc, but not DVD for some reason. Try it.

EDIT - Works now. Didn't for me before.

james.miller · 17 Apr 2006 at 12:42

i use MPC with ffdshow :confused:

Jimbo Mahoney · 17 Apr 2006 at 12:47

james.miller said:
i use MPC with ffdshow

Yeh, I just tried it and it's working now :confused:

I managed to pass it to FFDShow with DIVX and so on, but whenever I gave it a DVD to process, it screwed up.

Weird. Maybe I'm using a different FFDSHow now.

Good work!

EDIT AGAIN - Hmm, I can't get it to look as good in MPC. I'm using the Overlay Mixer in both, but in MPC, the display is less contrasty and there's a nasty dark grey overlay between the actual movie and the borders.

The Running Man · 17 Apr 2006 at 19:54

i am trying to get to grips with FFDSHOW< but cant work out the settings for "upscale?" are they in the config or somehwre else? im using the 2002 release, chrs

speeduk · 17 Apr 2006 at 23:54

If I try to use mpc and ffdshow for dvd's - the screen goes all messed up. :confused:

nO}{8 · 18 Apr 2006 at 11:00

speeduk said:
If I try to use mpc and ffdshow for dvd's - the screen goes all messed up.

same here, i think it needs to be setup properly. try this userguide:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=667061

im trying it now, will post back with results.

Jimbo Mahoney · 18 Apr 2006 at 21:21

speeduk said:
If I try to use mpc and ffdshow for dvd's - the screen goes all messed up.

That's why I thought it didn't work. It's working on my system now.

I'm not on my home PC right now, so I can't check which FFDShow I'm using, but I know that I've set it to allow processing of Raw video (at the top - Codecs, then scroll to the bottom of this option).

I also have a registry edit (posted up a few posts), but that may be unrelated.

Jimbo Mahoney · 18 Apr 2006 at 21:22

Nickg said:
i am trying to get to grips with FFDSHOW< but cant work out the settings for "upscale?" are they in the config or somehwre else? im using the 2002 release, chrs

Did you read the link I posted in the first OP?

nO}{8 said:
same here, i think it needs to be setup properly. try this userguide:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=667061

im trying it now, will post back with results.

Nice. I'll have a play when I get home.

nO}{8 · 19 Apr 2006 at 15:44

Got it working, took along time but got there in the end, and the results are superb!

Jimbo Mahoney · 19 Apr 2006 at 23:36

nO}{8 said:
same here, i think it needs to be setup properly. try this userguide:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=667061

im trying it now, will post back with results.

Hmm, I didn't like the results with that ( I used Version B).

My settings are:

Blur+NR = Denoise3D - luma 1.0, HQ

Sharpen = Unsharp, 20

Resize = 1500 x 1200, Luma 1.0

(In that order in FFSHow seems to give the best image / CPU tradeoff).

Try them, substituting your own resize in.

Shining · 20 Apr 2006 at 00:37

i have to say i've messed around with ffdshow and many many players to get my dvd's looking great on my 32in HDTV, but i seriously have to say that Windvd6 with the built in sharpening filter beats the pants off any combinations i've tried in the past.
For ease of use i'd have to reccommend it over anything else ive used, and its worth buying.

note: i do not work for the makers of WinDVD

JimmyEatWorms · 20 Apr 2006 at 10:00

That looks sweet. Any chance of a link to a full-res version of the image?

nO}{8 · 20 Apr 2006 at 11:00

Shining said:
i have to say i've messed around with ffdshow and many many players to get my dvd's looking great on my 32in HDTV, but i seriously have to say that Windvd6 with the built in sharpening filter beats the pants off any combinations i've tried in the past.
For ease of use i'd have to reccommend it over anything else ive used, and its worth buying.

note: i do not work for the makers of WinDVD

but you cant upscale the image with WinDVD, no?

Upsampling DVDs using a PC?

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