***Official Electronics Thread of Officialness (it starts off with lots of Nixie Tube Clock goodness

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Welcome to the Official OcUK Electronics stuff thread!
If you've got a query about something electronic or electrical, want to learn something new or interesting or just feel like looking these strange wizened electronics nutters, i hope that you'll find what you're looking for here! :D

The Thread started as a thread about Nixie Clocks and concentrates on such for the first ~420 posts or so (six pages if you're on the manly 80PPP setting :D)










Original OP begins:


I've been wanting one of these for years now, ever since i saw one in a book in about 1997 (it was a 1970's Longines desk-clock, very retro!) and reinforced by seeing them on http://www.electricstuff.co.uk/count.html

I tried to build one from scratch while at Uni with the resources of the electrical engineering lab, but due to numerous setbacks and delays in getting components (3 months to get an IRF740!) i never ended up finishing, and my Russian IN-8-2 Tubes sat languishing in their Melz-Vacuum-Tube-Factory boxes for more than two years.

Until now, when i noticed that a webshop was selling professionally made PCB's and component sets for 6-digit Nixie clocks designed for my particular tubes, i decided to go for broke and buy a kit.

Starting at 1:30AM on sunday morning (after a night out in Camden no less!) i finished up with this at about 10AM:

Component-side. the design uses solid-state (transformerless) DC-DC switching to boost the 12V DC-in to the 170V DC that the tubes need to strike.
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This is what it looks like when it's on :D
The Neon dot between the 2nd and 3rd digits is the AM-indicator. there's another one between the 4th and 5th that indicates PM.
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replaced image with one showing better colours, it was too yellow before

And what it looks like with a bit more Ambient illumination:
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Top-down view of the soldering:
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Semi-detail of the soldering:
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Detail-detail of the soldering:
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Those are 1/4w miniature resistors, and those solder-joints are less than 1mm in diameter.

Considering it's been over a year since i did any soldering last, and i was using a gas-powered Iron and not a temperature-controlled desk-iron, i'm very pleased with the quality of the soldering :)

To be honest, this wasn't an especially difficult project, simply solder on the designated components into their silkscreened locations. soldering the 'tubes was the only hard part, and the only instance where i had to make a repair because the soldering iron went haywire and incinerated a solder-pad for the 1-digit on the first nixie :eek: :(

Here's a lousy quality video of the clock in action:

The tubes are "new" old stock, manufactured in Moscow in February 1992, so while they "burn in" i'm having the clock run the "slot-machine-routine" every minute, which cycles rapidly through all the digits to prevent Cathode-degradation.

After a few more days i'll set it to hourly because it's a bit annoying.

The clock shows the date for five seconds every minute, but i might turn that off too, the settings menu is rather comprehensive considering that it's a simple clock. everything is controlled by a PIC16F1936 8-Bit microcontroller which derives the timebase from a 32.768kHz crystal oscillator, so in it's current state it should be accurate to at least a couple of seconds a day.

It also has the option to update the time from either a serial GPS unit or a radio-time-signal Antenna. i'll probably go for the GPS option some time soon.

So, what do you guys think?
 
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That looks fantastic! I think I'll definitely have to give this a go at some point. Roughly how much did all the parts cost you, I've just looked and Nixie clocks seem to sell for around $400 :eek:

Will you be making an enclosure for yours in the near future then?
 

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Thanks!
Yes, i'll probably make a folded-steel enclosure to protect the components. There's 170V DC on the board which you can just plop your fingers on, it doesn't hurt (much) but isn't very good for the components.

The tubes were $30 US for all six, plus $11 shipping, but that was two years ago.
the Kit itself was £35.

if you want to build one yourself the best thing to do is see what Tubes are available. Availability changes all the time as stocks sell out or new old stocks are found in dusty warehouse corners. be prepared to pay lots of money if you want large tubes like IN-18 or ZM1040

There are lots on ebay, and there are also specialist webshops selling tubes.

here are a few things i found on ebay that were interesting:

6x IN-18 tube sets - fairly good price.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/IN-18-NIX...119?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43a1c2d117
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/IN-18-NIX...pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item3cbb7cb2c9

Kit to go with the above:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/6-DIGIT-I..._Consumer_VintageAudio_RL&hash=item3a663c2d01

IN-8's (very similar to mine but with solid pins)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/IN-8-IN8-..._Consumer_VintageAudio_RL&hash=item3a627bd804

American Raytheon Tubes:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Raytheon-...pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item3f0d8f0917

ITT tubes:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GNP17A-NI...ecialistRadioEquipment_SM&hash=item5639bd9832

Complete and ready to-use clock, same tubes as mine:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NIXIE-CLO...280727418249?pt=UK_Clocks&hash=item415ca87589

Awesome and massive European Phillips tube:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ZM1040-NU...ecialistRadioEquipment_SM&hash=item2c5d954303

There's LOADS of tube-specific information out there, so don't buy any tubes without researching those particular tubes first :)
 
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I've been wanting to build one of these for ages, along with lots of other stuff :(

never get round to it.

I've3 seen someone use them for a psu display too, that looked cool.

decatrons are also awesome :D
 
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Here's mine. Got it a couple of years ago.

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I've been wanting to build one of these for ages, along with lots of other stuff :(

never get round to it.

I've3 seen someone use them for a psu display too, that looked cool.

decatrons are also awesome :D

Do it! you'll feel so chuffed when you've finished it. infact, even before you've finished it! :D

when i powered up the first tube (you install them one at a time for testing) i was so happy! :D

Decatrons are weird, they're not as useful as you'd imagine they are on first glance because you can usually only advance them by three units in a single pulse.


Whoah, nice! did you make it or buy it? either way that must have cost a bomb for those huge gorgeous 'Tubes! :D
 
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I love these things.

What I'd really love to find is a Dekatron counter - but they seem so rare!


Saying that, I'm sure I'll stumble across one at some point.

Just mentioned above, too, didn't notice that!
 
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Decatrons are weird, they're not as useful as you'd imagine they are on first glance because you can usually only advance them by three units in a single pulse.

who cares if they're useful :D



I'd love to put some on the bottom of a quad copter and fly it round at night and wait for the ufo reports :D
 

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Thats too clever, I would buy a kit but I suck at soldering lol
Get some practice in and give it a go :D
Biggest secret in soldering; mess it up? don't bother trying to flick it off with the iron, or suck it up with those crappy solder-suckers. desoldering braid is the boss! absolutely perfect.

.... and a fine one at that. :)
Why thankyou :)

The soldering dosen't look too taxing and I might have a go at one.
Gowaaan! :D
 
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