1 week with a macbook

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riddlermarc said:
I for one intensely dislike the self-absorbed Apple fanboi syndrome, I don't give a flying hoot if my Thinkpad has fingerprints/dust/scratches. I didn't have a choice of black or white for my Thinkpad and I didn't really care either. I am all for caring for your property but there is a limit, it is there for a reason - to be used.

I see no point in buying a Mac if you aren't going to use the "proper" OS and I don't like it. I run Linux on my machines but my laptop is dual-boot XP/Linux because I actually need it to be for work/dev purposes.

To a lot of people, owning a Mac is a fashion accessory to go with their Toni & Guy (are they good? I have no idea)silly pointy haircuts and sleeveless pink-check jumpers which they wear with brown shoes. It would sit nicely in their VW Beetle, right alongside the rather appealing flower in the test-tube.

It is just the same as cars, certain social types will drive an Audi, a Golf, a Nova etc..

That's why I will never buy a Mac (or iPod, iPhone, iWhatever), the hardware is irrelevant because the image sucks. Why are there endless posts in this forum about cleaning & caring for the hardware, shouldn't that be in the other Hardware forums? This forum is described as "All matters relating to Linux, OS X and open source operating systems.", nowhere does it mention using Brasso on your iKeyboard? It is driving most of the Linux users away 'cause we are faced with endless pap about non-appropriate Apple/Mac topics. I'm not talking about OS X stuff, that is cool and strictly appropriate but not most of the other posts. 99% of the linux posts now are "n00b here, which distro for me?" which is cool but there is no proper discussion any more :(

I think there should be a serious re-think on splitting the Mac stuff to a separate forum, else this place will just become a Mac forum anyway and the Linux users will finish the exodus that has started..

Really not looking for a flamewar but that is just my honest opinion :)
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What a load of ****. FYI my last laptop was an IBM thinkpad T21 with Linux/Windows dual boot. So I'm not worthy of posting here because I care about about ergonomics in addition to functionality? Yes, macbooks look nice, I want a laptop thats fun, it's a personal machine not a work one. What OS I choose to run now is irrelevent, the reason I originally wanted to put XP on it was because it OS X doesn't support all of my maths apps.

Your reference to cars is right, I want to drive something that looks good, SHOCKING I know, but it's true. I don't walk in to a dealer and say "give me your fuglyist car please"

You sound like a very pathetic man, stuck in a little room spending hours configuring your perfect linux distro, on a mat black laptop that belongs in the grey halls of central government. Secretly you want a macbook but your "functional but not asthetically pleasing" girlfriend "martha" won't let you get one! :p

David
 
DAVEM said:
You sound like a very pathetic man, stuck in a little room spending hours configuring your perfect linux distro, on a mat black laptop that belongs in the grey halls of central government. Secretly you want a macbook but your "functional but not asthetically pleasing" girlfriend "martha" won't let you get one! :p

David
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<sigh>Called pathetic twice in 24hrs.. that's a record.

I neither sit in a darkened room nor spend days perfecting my linux distro, a 40-min install is what I needed for both desktop and servers.

I play guitar in a metal band, I like football and I drive a Focus. I drink a lot of JD and.. my fiancee Hayley is very aesthetically pleasing too thank you, but I love her for who she is as well as her looks ;)

If you can't handle a reply to your blanket statement "Now that mac's are intel based I can't find any reason why people aren't converting to macs in droves" then that's your problem.

Merry Christmas all btw :)
 
dont talk to Design students about apple...

or you will feel rubbish :)

apple is nirvana to design kids....

macbooks are great, id love one.... but i agree apple have this fashion trend going on....people are like omg the design and look is soo good....i couldnt explain the difference between looks and performance to some people...

hardware and the perfomance side of things seemed to be pushed under the carpet with the fashion kids as long as its apple and looks sexy :)

i cant stand them adverts with the pc man as old fat and geeky and the "supposedly" cool casual apple user...does my head in.

pc's are the way you want them to be, they can be turd and dog slow with all the rubbish on them which makes them crash,

or you can actually know what your talking about and get the best from any piece of hardware...pc or mac.
 
I use a Mac in the recording studio.

It is the best tool for the task.. I didn't buy it for the image.

In fact I had it in the PPC days ;)

..to be honest I think you've offended hundreds of people by stereotyping everyone in to one smug-mac-owners-club just because they like owning hardware which they take pride in.,
 
I have a mac, i've always had a mac, my first PC was a Performa 630, which is STILL have and STILL works.

I've worked my way up to a Dual PowerMac G4 and its the best piece of hardware I have ever ever ever owned. NEVER crashes, NEVER had a failure, ALWAYS works. I have never had a PC work ALL the time. I was planning on upgrading to a Mac Pro, and then I thought why? My G4 does everything still, it works, reasonably fast still.

I take pride in both of my machines, PC and Mac (PC under the desk obviously).

riddlermarc you comments are of a PC-fanboyism, have you actually used one for more than a week? Frankily unless you haven't you have no argument against them. Not all people by them because they are style freaks or have too much money. Im not a style freak or have too much money, I buy decent hardware, and thats what my PowerMac and iBook are. 5 hours battery life on the iBook, beat that tbh.

If I had £2k to spend on a Mac Pro or a PC, it would be a mac. Why? Because im the 4 years of having my mac I've never had to reinstall OS X because it did something stupid or crashed or whatever, I've never had to update drivers, NOTHING. Windows, new drivers every month, loads of updates, virii, worms, driver conflicts, crashes *grrr*.

TBH im glad that some people like you don't come across, because if the market share gets too big, we will start having virii for macs... So the few people that do have a good sense of good hardware can have a great and continuing experience.
 
EVH said:
I use a Mac in the recording studio.

It is the best tool for the task.. I didn't buy it for the image.

In fact I had it in the PPC days ;)

..to be honest I think you've offended hundreds of people by stereotyping everyone in to one smug-mac-owners-club just because they like owning hardware which they take pride in.,
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im not putting everyone in that club....

some do it...get apple...just of the image.

I agree macbooks are good, my friends g4 ibook is good i use it regular way and osx is a nice operating system. Ill be acquiring myself a mac next year as id like to become much more familiar with osx
 
lemonkettaz said:
im not putting everyone in that club....

some do it...get apple...just of the image.
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Sure... but it's kinda irrelevant, some people buy BMWs just because of the image but plenty buy them just because they are good cars. Same can be said for CAT boots, GHD straighters, organic food etc etc
 
EVH said:
..to be honest I think you've offended hundreds of people by stereotyping everyone in to one smug-mac-owners-club just because they like owning hardware which they take pride in.,
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Unfortunately if someone completely new were to pop into this forum the majority of posts would just reinforce this stereotype! Mind you for "proper" Apple debate there's always uk.comp.sys.mac thankfully
 
lemonkettaz said:
im not putting everyone in that club....

some do it...get apple...just of the image.

I agree macbooks are good, my friends g4 ibook is good i use it regular way and osx is a nice operating system. Ill be acquiring myself a mac next year as id like to become much more familiar with osx
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I was on about the OP dude :)

(riddlermarc)
 
Ok, here's my 2 cents. Linux distros can make great OS's...HOWEVER...they are a pain in the butt to use as on a desktop PC. I am a Unix SA by trade but by no means do I want to come home and compile/find libraries/work out why this something very annoying is not working, thats why I use Mac OS. I don't have spikey hair and I don't own an ipod (that was just a laughable generalisation that ruined all credibility in the above post) but I do want a robust, easy to use OS, preferably with a shell...hence I use OSX, have been for 3 weeks and will never go back to windows or FC6/Suse as a desktop OS.
 
I still don't understand the problem of asking what cleaning products are recommended for the OP.

Splashing out on a laptop, you are forking out quite a bit of money - why should you not want to use the best cleaning products for it.

If you buy an expensive car, why would you not want to ocassionally wax it?
I have plenty of PC user friends who have asked me what wipes were best for their TFT monitors.

Just because you sit at a crumb filled, hairy keyboard and don't clean it - that doesn't make you cool.
 
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