1 week with a macbook

toosepin said:
Just because you sit at a crumb filled, hairy keyboard and don't clean it - that doesn't make you cool.

That's a bit of an assumption.

It's not like I can actually help being this naturally hairy anyway. I've tried shaving more, even considered waxing but I think that's supposed to be pretty painful. *Sigh* If only I were a Macbook :p
 
toosepin said:
I still don't understand the problem of asking what cleaning products are recommended for the OP.

Splashing out on a laptop, you are forking out quite a bit of money - why should you not want to use the best cleaning products for it.

If you buy an expensive car, why would you not want to ocassionally wax it?
I have plenty of PC user friends who have asked me what wipes were best for their TFT monitors.

Just because you sit at a crumb filled, hairy keyboard and don't clean it - that doesn't make you cool.

I can see the point of the argument. This part of the forum should only be used for software. Why should there be numerous threads about Apple hardware (care concerns or not) in it?
 
For me its the OS. Windows is pretty awful nowadays. MS really need to sort themselves out. I have to load up windows with so many extra apps to get the basics up to scratch. The new IE and many of the Vista additions are downright embarassing. Not bothering with windows outside games anymore. MS need anew direction because many companies are making better software that works better for users.
 
toosepin said:
Just because you sit at a crumb filled, hairy keyboard and don't clean it - that doesn't make you cool.
.. and you had the gall to have a go at me for stereotyping?

Running Linux doesn't make me cool, I'm cool enough thanks. I run it because I have a choice, I believe in open source software/OS and don't want to run a closed-source OS over which I have no control (Microsoft or Apple).

My original point was regarding threads of a non-relative nature - if I wanted to ask about new brake pads for my car, I wouldn't post in the SFF forum and if I wanted to discuss the latest HDTV setups I wouldn't ask in Networking. If I want new memory/hdd/nic for my Linux box, I ask in the memory/hdd/general hardware forum and not here because this is a software forum is for "All matters relating to Linux, OS X and open source operating systems."..

I know Macs are really good for design/studio work and that's cool - not for me though, and a 5hr battery life is definitely excellent :) Again, not enough to swing me but I do know not all people buy them for fashion accessories.

Although I didn't set out to do so, I'm glad I have fired up people's enthusiasm for some healthy debating and it can do nothing but good for this forum whatever happens re: any split :)

Right, off again to so swill some turkey and JD so I'll be seeing you again in a couple of days.. Happy Boxing Day :)
 
riddlermarc said:
I for one intensely dislike the self-absorbed Apple fanboi syndrome, I don't give a flying hoot if my Thinkpad has fingerprints/dust/scratches. I didn't have a choice of black or white for my Thinkpad and I didn't really care either. I am all for caring for your property but there is a limit, it is there for a reason - to be used.

I see no point in buying a Mac if you aren't going to use the "proper" OS and I don't like it. I run Linux on my machines but my laptop is dual-boot XP/Linux because I actually need it to be for work/dev purposes.

To a lot of people, owning a Mac is a fashion accessory to go with their Toni & Guy (are they good? I have no idea)silly pointy haircuts and sleeveless pink-check jumpers which they wear with brown shoes. It would sit nicely in their VW Beetle, right alongside the rather appealing flower in the test-tube.

It is just the same as cars, certain social types will drive an Audi, a Golf, a Nova etc..

That's why I will never buy a Mac (or iPod, iPhone, iWhatever), the hardware is irrelevant because the image sucks. Why are there endless posts in this forum about cleaning & caring for the hardware, shouldn't that be in the other Hardware forums? This forum is described as "All matters relating to Linux, OS X and open source operating systems.", nowhere does it mention using Brasso on your iKeyboard? It is driving most of the Linux users away 'cause we are faced with endless pap about non-appropriate Apple/Mac topics. I'm not talking about OS X stuff, that is cool and strictly appropriate but not most of the other posts. 99% of the linux posts now are "n00b here, which distro for me?" which is cool but there is no proper discussion any more :(

I think there should be a serious re-think on splitting the Mac stuff to a separate forum, else this place will just become a Mac forum anyway and the Linux users will finish the exodus that has started..

Really not looking for a flamewar but that is just my honest opinion :)



personaly i think , that you are living a sheltered life and take life to seriously , pc are good for spreadsheets and tables , mac`s are for life as in i life , be a individual as in toni and guy try the one in hull its amazing , coputers are for fun also , not just programming and browsing the web for the latest security fixes or virus updates , so give a big hug to this poor guy who is still living in the misrable world of pc , long live the mac come on sheep wake up and smell the coffe lol


no seriously no offence but get a ilife !
 
fdxd said:
For me its the OS. Windows is pretty awful nowadays. MS really need to sort themselves out. I have to load up windows with so many extra apps to get the basics up to scratch. The new IE and many of the Vista additions are downright embarassing. Not bothering with windows outside games anymore. MS need anew direction because many companies are making better software that works better for users.


your not wrong why is nero no` for pc`s pay all that money for a operating system and them have to buy burning software or download third party software , here`s a idea buy a operating system with all the best app for everthing so save money and guarantee compatability , oh just realised thats mac os x , i have seen the light the little glowing apple is strong
:)
 
markt63 said:
...here`s a idea buy a operating system with all the best app for everthing so save money and guarantee compatability...
Sorry, hasn't this approach been what Microsoft have been so heavily criticised for in the past? Anticompetitive behaviour by bundling applications in with the OS?

How can exactly the same strategy be criticised when Microsoft do it and praised when Apple do it?
 
markt63 said:
here`s a idea buy a operating system with all the best app for everthing so save money and guarantee compatability , oh just realised thats mac os x , i have seen the light the little glowing apple is strong
:)

Or you could use Linux and have the power/flexibility of osx and spend the money which you saved on software/hardware on an Oxford English dictionary.
 
This thread is going seriously off topic, but it's very entertaining none-the-less :p

In reply to the original poster:

DAVEM said:
EVERYONE CONVERT NOW!

er, no.

I do plan to purchase a Macbook, eventually or probably, but that's my choice ;)

markt63 said:
i have seen the light the little glowing apple is strong
:)

glowing apple, lol :)

markt63 said:
here`s a idea buy a operating system with all the best app for everthing so save money and guarantee compatability , oh just realised thats mac os x

I don't understand. How can buying applications save you money, when there are free alternatives to those (not all, I guess) applications?

markt63 said:
<snipety snip>
best app for everthing
<snipety snip>

Very subjective.
 
clv101 said:
Sorry, hasn't this approach been what Microsoft have been so heavily criticised for in the past? Anticompetitive behaviour by bundling applications in with the OS
I don't think the consumer has ever had an issue with it.
 
FAO: riddlermarc

Hey! I think your right there is too much mac stuff here but thats a sign of the increasing number of people turning from windows to mac and needing help so like you have said why not have a mac forum I dont understand why the mod's havent done this yet but perhapse there is a reason, any way good on you for voiceing your opinion.
 
I've happily used Macs and PC's interchangeably for many years in the creative industries, development and general corporate IT. To me they are both tools to do tasks and there are pro's and cons to both enviroments. I don't have a problem using either. I don't see one as being vastly better than the other either, they are different and suitabiliy depends entirely on the context they are used in.

Where PC and Mac uses meet, it usually ends up in a pointless Mac vs PC rabid debates that serves no purpose. Even unrelated threads seems to end up like that too. It a bit like Godwin's Law. So for that reason alone it usually is useful to seperate Mac hardware/OSX forums out onto their own. Otherwise a lot of potentially useful threads get trashed.
 
I've just got my first ever Macbook, I just fancied a change, I have heard good things about OS X. I must say though part of it was to do with how it looked. Where is the problem in this though? If I want some trainers I'll get some which look nice, who wouldn't? Same with everything.

If people were just buying Mac's because of how they look then its a bit silly but I really don't think many people do this.
 
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markt63 said:
your not wrong why is nero no` for pc`s pay all that money for a operating system and them have to buy burning software or download third party software , here`s a idea buy a operating system with all the best app for everthing so save money and guarantee compatability , oh just realised thats mac os x , i have seen the light the little glowing apple is strong
:)

Apple arent perfect either. I am a big supporter of 3rd party apps. As thats where most of the innovation occurs. People just tend to notice more when a big name like Google, MS or Apple copy ;)
 
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