£10 for 5 MW2 Maps LOL

[Final8y]

Blimey, people get angy about ridiculous things. If you don't want to pay a tenner for some maps (I don't) then just don't. They can charge whatever they want. Welcome to capitalism.

Just vote with your wallet, and all that.

The problem while there is variety & choice to buy games that don't has such silly restrictions & ripoff DLC, if enough people keep failing for it then there will be no choice in the future for anyone.

This not effecting me atm because there is plenty of other stuff to play but that does not mean that it will always be that way.
People to speak up & educate others of the possible long term effect because turning a blind eye now does not mean that it will not effect you later because it is not now.

Naivety, complacency.
Some people just don't believe that a bus is coming until it has run over them.

 

[Final8y]

What makes it so superior is that people are willing to pay £40 for it, there is nothing else to it. A business aims to make profit...that other bit is rubbish, it just so happens that one way of making profit is offering value to customers to keep them coming back.

Wrong!
A high price for a product does not make it superior to another.
Its the features in relation to the price that can make a product superior & there is nothing superior in MW features to other games at the price point or even cheaper games.

Strip out the MP side of that game that gave it longevity & people would say even tho the SP was good fun it was not worth the £40 because the length of the game was so short.

When you go out for an expensive meal you expect more than one bite full portion of the food on the plate, no matter how good the food is.

 

[Shamikebab]

Wrong!
A high price for a product does not make it superior to another.
Its the features in relation to the price that can make a product superior & there is nothing superior in MW features to other games at the price point or even cheaper games.

But there is something superior, look at it's sales. I am not talking about superior in terms of gaming experience, I'm talking about superior in terms of profit making potential. That is why they can charge more, because people want it and will pay that money to buy it.

 

[Final8y]

But there is something superior, look at it's sales. I am not talking about superior in terms of gaming experience, I'm talking about superior in terms of profit making potential. That is why they can charge more, because people want it and will pay that money to buy it.

Well the only people who care about the profits are the people making the money, why should i care when the only thing i got out of the deal is to play the game which what most of us do in relation to the title so its the game play that matters most to us & not to congratulate them on how high they can charge for a title as if our goal is to pay them as much as we can.

 

[trickycurve]

But there is something superior, look at it's sales. I am not talking about superior in terms of gaming experience, I'm talking about superior in terms of profit making potential. That is why they can charge more, because people want it and will pay that money to buy it.

It's "superior" because it has the Call of Duty name.

 

[Shamikebab]

Well the only people who care about the profits are the people making the money, why should i care when the only thing i got out of the deal is to play the game which what most of us do in relation to the title so its the game play that matters most to us & not to congratulate them on how high they can charge for a title as if our goal is to pay them as much as we can.

...exactly. The issue we were discussing is that they are charging £40 because of "greed". it's nothing to do with that, they are just maximising their profit. Whether you care or not is irrelevant to maximising their profit.

It's "superior" because it has the Call of Duty name.

Um yes...that's what I've been saying.

 

[Final8y]

...exactly. The issue we were discussing is that they are charging £40 because of "greed". it's nothing to do with that, they are just maximising their profit. Whether you care or not is irrelevant to maximising their profit.

We know they are maxing there profit & that's not the point the point is where you draw the line & they have crossed in it many peoples eyes except yours because why not charge £80 for the game & make even more but that's ok because everything is ok in the name of business & profit, even murder.

 

[craptakular]

For me paying £10 (whats that 33% of the original full game price?) is steep, two of the maps are from cod4 anyway.

I found the singleplayer so bad and so far fetched I cringed playing it, I had to turn it off and haven't touched it since.

Multiplayer is full of rage quiters, hackers, laggers, crap perk system, noob tubers it is not fun.

Aren't mod makers making mw2 maps for cod4, I know they made Highrise already... May as well play mw2 on CoD4 lol, same engine after all and we get dedi servers!!!!

 

[Evilsod]

...exactly. The issue we were discussing is that they are charging £40 because of "greed". it's nothing to do with that, they are just maximising their profit. Whether you care or not is irrelevant to maximising their profit.

Um yes...that's what I've been saying.

Ah the penny drops. You're a sheep who follows the hype. The game got such good sales because they spent so much money on marketing over actually creating the game that the hype it received was beyond all reason. The sad part is most of that hype was simply because MW was a good game. So to maximise there profit they made MW2 a half arsed replica that they could milk for as much as possible (hence the stupidly overpriced DLC(s)). Call me crazy but i'm quite sure MW made quite a lot of profit, yet i don't see a great deal of it been used for improvements to MW2, no i saw a great deal of it been used to advertise it.

We have come to expect free map releases. I fail to see why that situation should change just so greedy companies can get that bit more money from there games. So what if consoles have to pay, blame Microsoft, we have a modding community to create our own maps and mods, but oh wait, it was removed so they can release those mods but charge for it instead.

Btw, since when was there a difference between 'maximising profit' and 'greed'? Its not the fact that they're releasing the map pack at such a ridiculous price, its that they've made every attempt to completely stop people creating there own content so they don't even have to try and make good stuff because theres simply no alternative.

 

[Shamikebab]

We know they are maxing there profit & that's not the point the point is where you draw the line & they have crossed in it many peoples eyes except yours because why not charge £80 for the game & make even more but that's ok because everything is ok in the name of business & profit, even murder.

I didn't say they haven't crossed the line in my eyes, they quite clearly have. But they haven't in many peoples eyes, we are the minority here you have to realise.

Ah the penny drops. You're a sheep who follows the hype. The game got such good sales because they spent so much money on marketing over actually creating the game that the hype it received was beyond all reason. The sad part is most of that hype was simply because MW was a good game. So to maximise there profit they made MW2 a half arsed replica that they could milk for as much as possible (hence the stupidly overpriced DLC(s)). Call me crazy but i'm quite sure MW made quite a lot of profit, yet i don't see a great deal of it been used for improvements to MW2, no i saw a great deal of it been used to advertise it.

We have come to expect free map releases. I fail to see why that situation should change just so greedy companies can get that bit more money from there games. So what if consoles have to pay, blame Microsoft, we have a modding community to create our own maps and mods, but oh wait, it was removed so they can release those mods but charge for it instead.

Btw, since when was there a difference between 'maximising profit' and 'greed'? Its not the fact that they're releasing the map pack at such a ridiculous price, its that they've made every attempt to completely stop people creating there own content so they don't even have to try and make good stuff because theres simply no alternative.

Sheep? I don't even own the game! Perhaps you should read the thread and not jump to conclusions

And why should maps be free exactly? Why on earth do you "deserve" something that has taken people time to make for free? Should I walk down to a restaurant and demand a free dessert because I bought the main course?

The difference between greed and maximising profit is simply perspective. Why aren't all games £20? or £10? Is that greed as well?

 

[oli356]

All im going to say on this greed subject is 'arn't most media/music/film/game company's greedy ?

But even with the 3new maps and 2 'old ones' £10 per person and I don't know the numbers but even if it was a million players.... £10 * 1million ... = greed for 3maps And when they do things like not making dedicated servers so they can save more money its like -.-

 

[Final8y]

I didn't say they haven't crossed the line in my eyes, they quite clearly have. But they haven't in many peoples eyes, we are the minority here you have to realise.

You have a habit of replying with the obvious because its obvious that we are the minority as if we were not then we would not be having this issue over games because no one would be buying this crap.

 

[Evilsod]

And why should maps be free exactly? Why on earth do you "deserve" something that has taken people time to make for free? Should I walk down to a restaurant and demand a free dessert because I bought the main course?

Oh really? In that case should we start paying mod makers too? Stop making retarded comparisons. Have you always gone into that restuarant and been given a free dessert? Somehow i think not. How about the more accurate version, have you had the meal then been told it is impossible to have a dessert from anywhere else, if you wish to have a dessert you must pay the prices there which are extortionate because you can't go anywhere else.

This 'they've done work' attitude is a load of rubbish. Maybe we should pay them for patches too? I mean they did work right? Oh wait no thats clealy different Funnily enough didn't they make a ton of cash from selling the original game? Woe to me to even consider that they actually spend some of that cash to, wait for it, make the game better Somehow i doubt creating a few maps, some of which were direct copies of old maps, the rest of which are no doubt taken from areas of the singleplayer campaign like the mappack was for MW (which funnily enough was free, whodathunkit) was really a costly venture. More a profit making one.

 

[BobbyBBB]

What a rip off.

 

[barmyllama]

One of the reasons developers release free stuff for games is to generate extra interest in their game that has otherwise dwindled since it's initial release.

This is exactly what Valve do, they keep releasing free stuff to conicide with reduceded prices to bring new players and therefore new customers.

IW don't really need to do this with MW2 since it's been the biggest entertainment launch in history.

I bought the game, I won't be buying this.

We all have a choice.

 

[HAz]

sorry to say this for the hundredth time but we told you so

 

[DooMeR]

I still dont see what the big deal is, if people wanna buy the dlc they will if they dont they wont. I remeber them charing for mods for oblivion really small stuff that should have been in the game anyways. Its not like it hasnt been going on for awhile. DLC has prooved a hit on consoles its something we going to be seeing more and more on pc.

Yes its too much for a few maps but if there are people who still play often they properly a bit bored of playing on the same maps for 5 months. Its their money and their choice.

Its no more a waste of money then people buying 100's of games on steam and never playing them.

 

[DooMeR]

Just saw something on xfire

GAME MINUTES PLAYED
World of Warcraft 3,696,756
Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare Multiplayer 2,239,496
Call of Duty 2 Multiplayer 1,485,568
Battlefield: Bad Company 2 862,379
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 Multiplayer 804,962

Anyone know whats going on with this, i expected bc2 to be ahead of mw2 but i didnt expect cod 2 to be more played then mw2 and bc2 and the first mw to beat bc2 and mw2 combined.

Is it a case of more people palying on cracked servers on cod 2 and mw?

Really tempted to install cod 2 again to see whats going down, i've not played it in awhile and i fancy a bit of carentan.

 

[Kenai]

The 'big deal' is that DLC is turning into a ridiculous con to seemingly replace expansion packs except with massively less content and for almost as much money. On top of that, to achieve this they are deliberately preventing the mod community from working on the game, an activity that has often made the PC gaming experience what it is.

Some of us find this behaviour saddening to say the least as the hobby we grew up with in some cases is being bastardised and screwed purely to further line the pockets of companies who are making huge sums of money already.

 

[Final8y]

I still dont see what the big deal is, if people wanna buy the dlc they will if they dont they wont. I remeber them charing for mods for oblivion really small stuff that should have been in the game anyways. Its not like it hasnt been going on for awhile. DLC has prooved a hit on consoles its something we going to be seeing more and more on pc.

Yes its too much for a few maps but if there are people who still play often they properly a bit bored of playing on the same maps for 5 months. Its their money and their choice.

Its no more a waste of money then people buying 100's of games on steam and never playing them.

Some choices only effect the person making that choice then there are choices that effect everyone in the lone term, even the people who don't make that choice. The console is effecting PC gamers including the PC gamers who don't even have a console are being effected by it & its because of the choice that others have made & accepted in the console world.
But the problem is that to many can not see the long term effects until its to late to do anything about it.

People buying games that they never play will only ever effect that person & no one else.