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Indeed there’s not. That’s a nice design on them what you linked though.
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Indeed there’s not. That’s a nice design on them what you linked though.
Soldato
Of course. My mistake. I assumed that when you said
You thought there was some benefit to it, when actually there isn't.
And for your laptop, get one with USB C or Thunderbolt 3 connectivity. I've got a macBook Pro with a QNAP 10GbE LAN card connected via Thurnderbolt 3. I think it was about £170+VAT. And I can transfer files from the network storage at full line speed. Still no better for gaming though.
Yeah the DKT Comega 10 Gbps WAN Gateway looks nice...
https://dktcomega.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/10G-CPE-2.png
Not many of the mainstream router makers have 10 Gbps WAN products out as far as I can see. This one doesn’t support WiFi and there’s a lot of home users who don’t know any better and would miss the WiFi.
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Soldato
The UniFi Dream Machine Pro and the Mikrotik RB4011 both support 10Gb WAN. Actually I think there are quite a few routers out at the moment with SFP+ WAN ports.
Not quite mainstream names like ASUS, TP-Link and Netgear. I’d only heard of UniFi and Mikrotik after viewing these forums. Overclockers only sell ASUS, TP-Link and Ubiquiti
Perhaps look at who makes the UDM
As stated, 10Gb is not at a consumer stage yet, therefore a consumer orientated seller doesn’t generally sell enterprise 10Gb hardware. If you want 10Gb you either need to buy non consumer grade kit, or build your own set-up.
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Perhaps look at who makes the UDM
Ubiquiti make the UniFi Dream Machine Pro my bad
Can you do anything else meaningful with your computer whilst its transferring at full speed? Been a while since I tried but even 1Gbps makes an SSD and CPU go crazy on a laptop (albeit not tried on a recent MBP that has quite a fast SSD in it)! Full speed 10GbE would be able to transfer 1.2 Gigabytes per second, can you write to consumer grade SSDs (at the laptop/desktop end) at that speed, without some sort of RAID.
rp2000
The NVme drive in my "games" PC can read 2816 MB/s and write 2481 MB/s sequentially.
https://i.imgur.com/jkZJfXw.png
https://i.imgur.com/jkZJfXw.png
Just tested my NVme using the same tool and you're right! Confirmed results with the Samsung Magician software as well. Mine is a 960Evo I get half the write speed as you but same read speed, quite an old budget drive I guess.
I stand corrected, no bottleneck if using an NVme for 10GBe!
rp2000
If using a laptop the bottleneck is likely to be the network interface unless you’re using one of those 10 Gbps plug in devices WJA96 alluded to. Even then unless you’re using a very modern laptop I think the bottleneck would be the 2.5” SATA SSD drive.
As far as I know there are no NVme drives that fit in a laptop so you’re left with slower 2.5” SATA SSD drives as there’s no PCI-E bus slots in a laptop.
The SSD speed becomes important if you can potentially download at 1.25 GB/s over a 10 Gbps connection.
Soldato
I could be wrong, and I may well be, and I’m 99.9% certain that all Apple MacBook Pro’s since about 2017 have been fitted with NVME SSDs.
My mid 2014 MBPr supports them....
A lot of laptop ethernet ports are either terrible Realtek things with bad drivers, or people are using with with poor quality USB adapters. It's not difficult to do a speed test of a faster connection and get a bad reading, and for it to have nothing to do with the ISP or the network.
Indeed it’s not, especially when a 10 Gbps PCI-e network card costs £ 78.74 ex VAT. Then you have to figure in the cost of a new 10 Gbps ONT, a new 10 Gbps Gateway plus on site visit and installation costs.
There’s not much choice of gateways at the moment and the one I linked to above doesn’t support WiFi therefore it’s not aimed at the consumer. The so called big boys ASUS, TP-Link and Netgear don’t appear to have any 10 Gbps products out yet.
When it eventually does become available it will be in 10/5/2.5/1Gbps increments with 1 Gbps the bog standard. That will push down the price of 1 Gbps connections.
Soldato
I might be missing something. I was under the impression that Asus and Netgear had 10GbE products out;
Asus - https://www.asus.com/us/Networking/ROG-Rapture-GT-AX11000/
Netgear - https://www.netgear.com/gaming/xr700/
and TP-Link have a 2.5GbE unit with 10GbE in the pipeline.
TP-Link - https://www.tp-link.com/uk/home-networking/wifi-router/archer-ax11000/
When I updated my own PC recently I picked the ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate as the basis - because even at £270 it has a 10GbE RJ45 port.
I stand corrected you are obviously a router enthusiast and know a lot more about what is on the market than I do.
The ASUS GT-AX11000 ROG Rapture is £ 316.66 ex VAT. The NETGEAR XR700-100EUS Nighthawk Pro Gaming is £ 387.70 ex VAT and the TP-Link AX11000 Tri-Band Wi-Fi 6 Gaming Router Archer is £ 342.48 ex VAT
None of which are cheap. I paid just £ 66.66 ex VAT for my current Netgear R6800 AC 1900 router.
Soldato
Knowledge makes for informed decisions. Cheap is relative. If you NEED to render graphics fast, then a £50,000 Apple Mac Pro will pay for itself in a few weeks.
If I wait for file transfers that's time and time is money. In the same way that people will pay four-figures for a 2080Ti graphics card, I have no issue paying for the fastest networking equipment available (that I can afford).
A Netgear R6800 AC 1900 wouldn't meet my requirements and therefore no matter what the price it wouldn't be cheap.