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Madwelsh

Madwelsh

Madwelsh

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Ok, I've tried to get up to speed, kids (damn them pesky types!) have stopped my enjoyment of the clocking fun..
With that in mind, I want to game at 1080, 25 to 27 monitor, I'm thinking ryzen 1600 can you guys spec me 16g ram, I want an amd graphics card and a 144hz monitor for freesync. I need a ssd and also at least a 1tb drive. I have a ridiculous enermax gold power supply, likely for a server!

I need suggestions on a good cooler that can take me with the ram to 4gig at about 60C. Currently have a lian li case from 12 years ago, maybe newer stuff is better..

I know it's a lot to ask, but if you can't do the monitor, prob my folks can sort the 300 odd it'll cost at xmas.. (I have a 22 already 1080)..

Cheers in advance for your suggestions
 
@Madwelsh

Slightly over including delivery- but what you've got enough posts so FREE!!!! So take away -£15

Ryzen 1400 instead of 1699- still 4 cores 8 threads and OC to 3.7GHz on stock cooler :)
Can always swap out to zen2 in 2019 onwards when you need the power

Amd graphics card which allows you to run a freesync monitor at 144hz for smooth gameplay !
Not going to lie, that red dragon 8GB deal is good but not sure on ETA !
16GB of memory in the sweet spot speed and that works as well as Gigabyte board which is one of the two b350 we all quote on here, Strix is the other at £15 odd more. If your after flagship x370 chipset then it's the Taichi or Hero at £200 odd

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Madwelsh said:
Ok, I've tried to get up to speed, kids (damn them pesky types!) have stopped my enjoyment of the clocking fun..
With that in mind, I want to game at 1080, 25 to 27 monitor, I'm thinking ryzen 1600 can you guys spec me 16g ram, I want an amd graphics card and a 144hz monitor for freesync. I need a ssd and also at least a 1tb drive. I have a ridiculous enermax gold power supply, likely for a server!

I need suggestions on a good cooler that can take me with the ram to 4gig at about 60C. Currently have a lian li case from 12 years ago, maybe newer stuff is better..

I know it's a lot to ask, but if you can't do the monitor, prob my folks can sort the 300 odd it'll cost at xmas.. (I have a 22 already 1080)..

Cheers in advance for your suggestions
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Hi!

Your system must be this :p

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The graphics card needs to be pre-ordered but still it is cheaper.

Bettered configuration:

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Madwelsh said:
I have a ridiculous enermax gold power supply, likely for a server!
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If by ridiculous you mean pretty big, check its depth as not all cases may fit it.


Madwelsh said:
I need suggestions on a good cooler that can take me with the ram to 4gig at about 60C.
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Not all Ryzen 1600 reach 4GHz, some only reach 3.7/3.8 all cores.

An Intel CPU would be better for 1080p and the high frame-rates you'll presumably want for a high refresh rate monitor. At 1440p things even out dramatically processor-wise, and at 4K there's practically no difference.

Seems doable for the total budget (build + monitor budget) unless you intend to do a lot of streaming or game capture for which the Ryzen would be better. Although the monitor in this spec is 24" not 25"+.

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4K8KW10 said:
Intel CPU isn't worth it. Only 6 cores while more and more games will require more threads.
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Coffee i5 spanks Ryzen @ 1080p. Not only that but OP wishes a 144Hz monitor, which means a lot of frames. There are benchmarks showing up to 50 fps difference in some games at 1080p. Which upcoming game are you thinking of that an i5-8600K won't handle?
 
Thanks for the replies, certainly has given me food for thought. I neglected to mention I need a dvd rewriter, as I have a back catalogue of 20 years or so of games! Maybe this can also be a blu ray drive too? I'm not crazy keen on having an external drive, (more cables and mess to lose!). I'm thinking I'll have to stall on the monitor til xmas, get the missus and the folks to buy for me :)
I'm liking the gpu, as you say it's on preorder, any ideas what sort of time frame this is likely to be? I'm also leaning towards the 1600 as I do enjoy rts games and these usually seem to enjoy the extra cores.. On the subject of overclocking, I thought the 1600 was fairly easy to get to 3.9/4.0, especially since the bios updates?

Do I really need 16gig of ram? Will 8 be sufficient? I'm not a huge worker on my pc, but I do like to encode films, also I make occasional dvds of my kids birthdays/family events etc for my wife's family as they live near 6000 miles away.

So in short, ideally I'd like the 1600 cpu minimum, 8 gig ram, (can be expensive to get my overclock!) A decent aftermarket cpu cooler, full atx mboard (microatx too fiddly for me!) the 580 has me sold on that price, but I can't be waiting like months for it! I'm hoping dropping down to 8 gig ram and removing monitor, will give you guys some room to change up what I can buy. I've been doing lots of reading the last few days, but you know how it is, it starts to jumble up! Sometimes it's nice for other peoples ideas that can spark more questions and hopefully answers, til I can make a clear choice on exactly what I want to order.

I want to just double check that the zen revision next year will defo drop into an AM4 board yeah? Aside from that, thanks for your input so far, I look forward to further suggestions from you.
 
Danny75 said:
Coffee i5 spanks Ryzen @ 1080p. Not only that but OP wishes a 144Hz monitor, which means a lot of frames. There are benchmarks showing up to 50 fps difference in some games at 1080p. Which upcoming game are you thinking of that an i5-8600K won't handle?
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Thanks for your input, however intel is too damn expensive for me unless you can come up with a system I can afford? I'm no fan boy, but I just assumed the cpu and motherboard alone on the coffee basically would buy 3/4 of a 1600 system..
 
Madwelsh said:
Thanks for the replies, certainly has given me food for thought. I neglected to mention I need a dvd rewriter, as I have a back catalogue of 20 years or so of games! Maybe this can also be a blu ray drive too? I'm not crazy keen on having an external drive, (more cables and mess to lose!). I'm thinking I'll have to stall on the monitor til xmas, get the missus and the folks to buy for me :)
I'm liking the gpu, as you say it's on preorder, any ideas what sort of time frame this is likely to be? I'm also leaning towards the 1600 as I do enjoy rts games and these usually seem to enjoy the extra cores.. On the subject of overclocking, I thought the 1600 was fairly easy to get to 3.9/4.0, especially since the bios updates?

Do I really need 16gig of ram? Will 8 be sufficient? I'm not a huge worker on my pc, but I do like to encode films, also I make occasional dvds of my kids birthdays/family events etc for my wife's family as they live near 6000 miles away.

So in short, ideally I'd like the 1600 cpu minimum, 8 gig ram, (can be expensive to get my overclock!) A decent aftermarket cpu cooler, full atx mboard (microatx too fiddly for me!) the 580 has me sold on that price, but I can't be waiting like months for it! I'm hoping dropping down to 8 gig ram and removing monitor, will give you guys some room to change up what I can buy. I've been doing lots of reading the last few days, but you know how it is, it starts to jumble up! Sometimes it's nice for other peoples ideas that can spark more questions and hopefully answers, til I can make a clear choice on exactly what I want to order.

I want to just double check that the zen revision next year will defo drop into an AM4 board yeah? Aside from that, thanks for your input so far, I look forward to further suggestions from you.
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AMD said they will release CPUs for AM4 till 2019, or 2 more generations. Ryzen 2 and Ryzen 3 should be AM4 ready.
In order for your system to be as much future proof as posssible, yes, stick to Ryzen 5 1600 with its 12 cores, and to 16GB DDR4. I think you will ned 16 GB RAM.

Added for you a DVD-RW and CPU cooler (you have to mention that you want an AM4 bracket),

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The BD_RW are like £50 more expensive.
 
Madwelsh said:
Thanks for your input, however intel is too damn expensive for me unless you can come up with a system I can afford? I'm no fan boy, but I just assumed the cpu and motherboard alone on the coffee basically would buy 3/4 of a 1600 system..
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Well you mentioned two budgets, one £1000 the other £1300. Won't fit the first that's for sure.
 
Danny75 said:
Well you mentioned two budgets, one £1000 the other £1300. Won't fit the first that's for sure.
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I'm trying to fit everything in for around the 1k mark. However, I can remove the monitor and perhaps drop from 16 to 8 gig system ram. So maybe give an extra £350 in that 1k for components ?
 
Madwelsh said:
I'm trying to fit everything in for around the 1k mark. However, I can remove the monitor and perhaps drop from 16 to 8 gig system ram. So maybe give an extra £350 in that 1k for components ?
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Try to find 150 or 200 £ more and you will have an amazing system. See my previous post.
 
Looking at the builds posted above there is some real quality there for price so I would try and stretch to just over the 1k mark if possible. Ryzen is a great unit with Am4 support for quite a while but the Coffe lake i5 is a great chip. Have a look in the cpu section and read the thread about the chips performance it does perform brilliantly for an i5
 
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@Madwelsh

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following up from this- and @Danny75 has hit the nail on the head with the i-core being faster at 1080p ! specially when you slap 3600+ ram in . about to do a dual ryzen 1600 and intel 8400 build myself !

which leads me

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overclock that ram TO 4K! 8 Pack has shown his ram can do it . yes Unfortunately its not a K version but they'll be hard to get and costs will soar for a while - and handle 1080p just fine :D but if you can land a K version - would recommend just for the overclock to increase the life
 
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You are breaking at least several of the OP's requirements!

Madwelsh said:
I want to game at 1080
25 to 27 monitor,
I'm thinking ryzen 1600
can you guys spec me 16gb ram
an amd graphics card and a 144hz monitor for freesync.
I need a ssd and also at least a 1tb drive.
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Madwelsh said:
I need a dvd rewriter
A decent aftermarket cpu cooler, full atx mboard (microatx too fiddly for me)
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4K8KW10 said:
You are breaking at least several of the OP's requirements!
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think of it as another option , OP had ryzen and now there is intel which is worth a look at- when ryzen came out... you could not refuse it bar if you were looking for the highest frame rate possible - there is one advantage as well that ryzen cant match- Optane - although we havent spec'd it and its price has doubled! can turn a HDD into an SSD- well close to its speeds in certain things I think when it came out was £30 and with a £60 2TB hard drive - thats a masisve saving over a 2TB SSD :D

if there was a bundle for an i7 8700k/16gb 4000hz/ £250 board for half price - bring it in range with these budget systems - you'd be mad not to quote it for anyone even if they wanted another cpu brand :D
 
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This Freesync Monitor looks interesting. Not seen an MSI brand one before. Might be worth keeping an eye on.


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