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^^ think its a samsung panel 

lol @ 'triggered', found it funny myself
Just wondering if it's worth spending more on a mboard to get a better oc on the 1600? (sorry intel peeps, just I see that there's no way I'm getting a K chip, not for an age anyways, and then prob cost too much cash.) If I can get 3.9/4ghz on a 1600 it'll be on a par with most benchmarks for the non-k i5 or even beat it. Does anyone know if the coffee mboards are likely to be around for 2/3 years?
As I said earlier, I can remove the monitor from the price, so that should give 2-300 extra to play with. Looking at the ram side of things.. it's about £200 for 3200 which should clock the ryzen 1600 nicely up to 3.9/4.0 which is what I'm looking for. I've seen a aio cooler that can fit the kolink case the frostflow 240? seems to have reasonable reviews and at 50 quid, can expect better cooling than the stock job!
Thanks for all your input, it is most welcome.. like I said, different views trigger more research for me, hopefully then I can crystallize which components I need.
Edit: @Lee, just saw what you said about the monitor, I saw it a bit earlier, however I'm not sure whether curved might 'freak me out'! Friend of mine has a curved tv, takes a bit of getting used to when walking in the room. Maybe it's just me, but they look 'awkward'?????
B350 and X370 clock the same
you'll find we'll all pretty much quote the Strix & Gaming 3 on the B350 chipset for budget and to squeeze the best possible cpu or gpu out of the £100+ saving or if the OP has got the cash and wants the best , ASrock Taichi and ROG Hero- this is were you chase the .25/.5/.75 hz cpu overclock and 3200+ ram hz with tight timings- but you'll also need a strong Core- non X your rolling the luck of the Die
I've had a scout about and it seems 1600 aren't hugely different from 1600x, not bin wise anyways.. like I said, I'm not after a ridiculous oc, 3.9/4 will do fine.. I'm looking to surpass i5 coffee performance for less money ideally![]()
you'll surpass its life more likely due to double the threads, or if you move to 1440p gaming or streaming!
intel at the time being have the strongest IPC, IMC - think AMD will catch this with Zen 2- i expect zen+ or fresh to hammer out the speed to bring intel to a sweat again and force them to lower pricing
yes, why we all quote it. also get a RGB cooler! board like the gaming and strix had a header for it too
few rate the cooler well- much better then intels as least !
save a bit of cash to and clocks to 3.7Ghz with it on
you'll surpass its life more likely due to double the threads, or if you move to 1440p gaming or streaming!
intel at the time being have the strongest IPC, IMC - think AMD will catch this with Zen 2- i expect zen+ or fresh to hammer out the speed to bring intel to a sweat again and force them to lower pricing
you are speaking to an amd 64 phase change fanI do fondly reminisce about my vapochill LS and my 3700 with gskill ram and the dfi lanparty board.. the dielectric grease is still present!!! With A64, intel were producing the egg frier!!! my mate had one.. I've always liked AMD mainly from a pricing point.. but also from an oc point.. I still fondly remember the lead pencil mod, the golden fingers mod, even the 2500xp mobile processor which was mad for o/c lol.. Intel got wise and started to unlock, but they charge such a premium.. imagine if AMD didn't exist, intel would still be shuffling out processors in 100mhz increments..
fun thing is Mr 8 pack actually updated my LS with a chilly head, golden froster board and a danfoss 1/2hp compressor.. When I started on this forum, you needed 250 posts to get members market, then it went to 500, now it's a 1000 !!! I have loads of really nice retro kit, gskill etc fx 51 / 53/ 55/ 57 can't sell it though lol.. even though I've been here for near 13 years !
retro gaming is hipster these days lol.. although I had the beard when building the stuff!!!
There can't be any 'enjoyment' here, figures, benchmarks and cash totals only! Hehe, I'll go and have a lookThere is a cracking retro build in the project logs section
ok finalising my build.. here goes:
My basket at Overclockers UK:
- 1 x PowerColor Radeon RX 580 Red Dragon V2 8192MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card= £248.99
- 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 Six Core 1600 3.60GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £188.99
- 1 x Kolink Luminosity Midi Tower Gaming Case - Black= £39.95
- 1 x Asus 24x DVD±RW DRW-24D5MT SATA ReWriter - Black (OEM)= £13.99
- 1 x Gigabyte GA-AB350-Gaming 3 AMD B350 (Socket AM4) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £101.99
- 1 x Team Group Dark Pro "8Pack Edition" 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C14 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black/= £199.99
- 1 x ID-Cooling FrostFlow+ 240 All In One CPU Water Cooler - 240mm= £49.99
- 1 x Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut High Performance Thermal Paste - 11.1g / 3 ml= £21.95
- 1 x Arctic Silver ArctiClean Thermal Material Remover and Surface Purifier - 60ml Kit= £6.95
- 1 x Toshiba P300 2TB 7200RPM 64MB Cache High Performance Hard Drive (HDWD120UZSVA)= £57.95
- 1 x Crucial MX300 275GB SSD M2 2280 6Gbps 3D Nand Solid State Drive (CT275MX300SSD4)= £89.99
I bought a few sundries like the paste and removal stuff.. I usually take g card coolers straight off and give them a decent contact with quality stuff. About ssd's, m2 the better solution? or does it just depend on what you want aesthetically/ case constraints? As I said earlier, likely get the monitor as a xmas present, well it certainly beats socks! Thanks for your input, will be pulling the trigger this afternoon.
About ssd's, m2 the better solution? or does it just depend on what you want aesthetically/ case constraints?
Some M.2's are faster. That one's regular speed, and about the same price as a normal SATA SSD so up to you and what you want aesthetically/case constraints wise.
You could always get the 5.5g of Kryonaut paste and swap the Crucial for the slightly better Samsung 850 EVO (regular SSD). Has a bit more warranty (5 years) too.
Just a reminder about the PSU depth, that case takes up to 155mm depth only.
240mm liquid isn't needed to cool a 1600 even with overclocking if you want to save £15-20 there.