1080p OLED or 4k LCD?

Alz_D · 7 Feb 2016 at 13:09

woppy101 said:
There are no motion issues with OLED TVs, people use the incorrect settings

I have to agree to some extent - I don't have any motion issues on my 930v - or any other issues luckily. There are however issues with a lot of sets at the moment with banding, dark spots, near black issues and tint. If I had the luxury of time I probably would have waited for this years sets but I needed a TV now so took a chance and got a good one second time round.

Also glad those HDUK sets are in damaged boxes - I paid £1298 for mine

The picture just blows away anything I have seen before and I am really happy to have took the chance.

the wopster · 7 Feb 2016 at 15:56

Alz_D said:
I have to agree to some extent - I don't have any motion issues on my 930v - or any other issues luckily. There are however issues with a lot of sets at the moment with banding, dark spots, near black issues and tint. If I had the luxury of time I probably would have waited for this years sets but I needed a TV now so took a chance and got a good one second time round.

Also glad those HDUK sets are in damaged boxes - I paid £1298 for mine

The picture just blows away anything I have seen before and I am really happy to have took the chance.

People think there are problems with the motion because they don't know which settings of the trumotion are correct for 50hz and 24hz sources, the same happened with the pioneer kuros and the drive modes 1,2 and 3

IvanDobskey · 7 Feb 2016 at 16:28

What settings are best for motion then? I have mine on clear for the moment and do notice the odd bit of judder.

the wopster · 7 Feb 2016 at 17:11

IvanDobskey said:
What settings are best for motion then? I have mine on clear for the moment and do notice the odd bit of judder.

Trumotion off for sky/tv ie50hz and trumotion user de-judder 0 and de-blur 0 for bluray (24hz). If you want a more crisp picture for rugby/football/F1 you can use trumotion user de-judder 0 and de-blur 10. The de-Juder setting is a bit of a lie because it add judder and motion artefacts

Alz_D · 7 Feb 2016 at 18:11

I have it off as mentioned or 2 + 2

Bassmansam · 7 Feb 2016 at 18:47

What are peoples thoughts on the Samsung JS8500 curved tv? I saw one in currys yesterday and think I will buy it, very impressive picture quality, currently priced at £1499, may go down when 2016 models come out though.

Psycho Sonny · 7 Feb 2016 at 20:35

Bassmansam said:
What are peoples thoughts on the Samsung JS8500 curved tv? I saw one in currys yesterday and think I will buy it, very impressive picture quality, currently priced at £1499, may go down when 2016 models come out though.

Why do you want random forum members thoughts?

All the info you need is here

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/ue55js8500-201506114124.htm

He is a professional calibrator.

If you want my thoughts I would say £1500 for an 55" LCD is crazy (regardless of it's resolution). When I paid £799 for my 50" Plasma (superior PQ) 2-3 years ago. So your paying double for an extra 5 inches and arguably worse PQ but it's got 4K res which you will never really use.

You could get a 55" OLED for £1300 or a 55" Premium LCD for £600-£800 albeit both are 1080p your probably not even watching 1080p content so I don't see why you would need an even higher res @ 4K the upscaling would worsen PQ.

IvanDobskey · 7 Feb 2016 at 21:19

After having this oled for a week, I have no idea why anyone would pick an LCD over oled. Now I have it set up right, it blows any LCD away, even 4k.

Psycho Sonny · 8 Feb 2016 at 00:16

IvanDobskey said:
After having this oled for a week, I have no idea why anyone would pick an LCD over oled. Now I have it set up right, it blows any LCD away, even 4k.

Ive seen a £2500 4k lcd in action and a £1300 oled. The difference in picture quality isnt noticeable to joe bloggs unless you sat both side by side and explained it to them. Even then they would opt for 4k because you know its 4k.

Its why lcds outsold plasmas 1000 to 1 the majority just want a nice enough picture dont care if they could have gotten better for cheaper so long as its the latest gimmick.

the wopster · 8 Feb 2016 at 06:03

Psycho Sonny said:
Ive seen a £2500 4k lcd in action and a £1300 oled. The difference in picture quality isnt noticeable to joe bloggs unless you sat both side by side and explained it to them. Even then they would opt for 4k because you know its 4k.

Its why lcds outsold plasmas 1000 to 1 the majority just want a nice enough picture dont care if they could have gotten better for cheaper so long as its the latest gimmick.

This ^, most people when I talk to them still think they have an LED tv (so why should they get an OLED tv) not understanding that they have an LCD tv with LED edge backlighting

IvanDobskey · 8 Feb 2016 at 06:43

I have to admit, a lot of people I know think they have LED TV's and just don't understand it when I try to explain that it's really just an LCD TV with an led backlight. It's all about marketing to Joe blogs.

In fact, I told a friend (who I don't consider stupid) that I had bought an oled TV and he had no clue what oled was despite owning a galaxy s6.

Psycho Sonny · 8 Feb 2016 at 13:33

It's why you get people who buy a 50" tv from asda for £299 and think it's amazing and recommend it to all their mates.

They have no clue what a good tv is.

It's also why 4k lcd's are outselling 1080p oled's. 4K is easier to market than OLED.

Biffa · 8 Feb 2016 at 15:05

Most people don't give a monkeys about quality details.

They just want to watch TV.

All that faffing around to find the HD channels is too much bother for them, they just watch the first one that comes up in the planner, so many times I walk in and they are watching SD or a DVD instead of the blu-ray in the same case and then when I change it to the HD channel or switch to the blu-ray they are like :confused:

"can't tell the difference" :confused:

Bassmansam · 8 Feb 2016 at 18:59

Psycho Sonny said:
Why do you want random forum members thoughts?

All the info you need is here

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/ue55js8500-201506114124.htm

He is a professional calibrator.

If you want my thoughts I would say £1500 for an 55" LCD is crazy (regardless of it's resolution). When I paid £799 for my 50" Plasma (superior PQ) 2-3 years ago. So your paying double for an extra 5 inches and arguably worse PQ but it's got 4K res which you will never really use.

You could get a 55" OLED for £1300 or a 55" Premium LCD for £600-£800 albeit

both are 1080p your probably not even watching 1080p content so I don't see why you would need an even higher res @ 4K the upscaling would worsen PQ.

There is already 4k content available and there will be 4k blu ray soon. Therefore I definitely want a 4k panel. Yes i know reviews are good but this is a discussion forum so i was just asking.

Psycho Sonny · 8 Feb 2016 at 19:07

Bassmansam said:
There is already 4k content available and there will be 4k blu ray soon. Therefore I definitely want a 4k panel. Yes i know reviews are good but this is a discussion forum so i was just asking.

4k discussion has been discussed to death.

how often do you buy blu rays? also would you be willing to pay £300 for a new 4k blu ray player and £30-£50 for a 4k blu ray? because that is how much they will likely cost when released.

there is also very little 4k content available and it's compressed to oblivion so much so that 1080p blu ray looks better.

sounds like you want 4k though just because it's 4k so just buy it

Bassmansam · 8 Feb 2016 at 19:18

Psycho Sonny said:
4k discussion has been discussed to death.

how often do you buy blu rays? also would you be willing to pay £300 for a new 4k blu ray player and £30-£50 for a 4k blu ray? because that is how much they will likely cost when released.

there is also very little 4k content available and it's compressed to oblivion so much so that 1080p blu ray looks better.

sounds like you want 4k though just because it's 4k so just buy it

I buy blu rays regular, yes i am happy to pay that for a new blu ray player. Also 4k HDR demos look great. I plan on keeping that tv for around 5 years anyway.

Alz_D · 8 Feb 2016 at 20:16

Had a panic attack last night - younger family member was watching some cartoon with black bars either side for a couple of hours and afterwards all content had definite lines either side. Turned it off and it's screen cycle seems to have cleared it completely. Something to watch for though!

theone8181 · 9 Feb 2016 at 07:46

I think the 4k films are just £30, rumour has it tho that the ps4 can play 4k films so that could be interesting. As above tho i was talking to this guy at work and he said he couldnt see any difference then got all upset when i critised his eyesight due to being old (hes very sensitive about being in his mid 40's). I can tell from 13 foot away when its hd and when its not on a piddly 46 inch tv.

the wopster · 9 Feb 2016 at 11:33

Alz_D said:
Had a panic attack last night - younger family member was watching some cartoon with black bars either side for a couple of hours and afterwards all content had definite lines either side. Turned it off and it's screen cycle seems to have cleared it completely. Something to watch for though!

It's compensation cycle will get rid of any IR, people assume because it's like plasma(self illuminating) it will have stubborn IR and screen burn like plasma

Psycho Sonny · 9 Feb 2016 at 15:41

theone8181 said:
I think the 4k films are just £30, rumour has it tho that the ps4 can play 4k films so that could be interesting. As above tho i was talking to this guy at work and he said he couldnt see any difference then got all upset when i critised his eyesight due to being old (hes very sensitive about being in his mid 40's). I can tell from 13 foot away when its hd and when its not on a piddly 46 inch tv.

i don't believe the ps4 can. might be possible with a firmware update but i seriously doubt it.