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119 degree centigrade

Soldato
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Was the temperature of the Q6600 before the computer shut down.

Frigging stock cooler with the rubbish plastic things, a leg popped off!
 
Ah well. At least they turn off when too hot these days. I got a keyboard cable caught in the fan of my stock i7 cooler, didn't notice until it switched off.

Get an M4 screw with nut and a couple of silicon/paper washers and put that through where the leg is now missing?
 
managed to get it sorted in the end - although watched a video of an older CPU without a heatsink attached. They really did blow up!
 
Was the temperature of the Q6600 before the computer shut down.

Frigging stock cooler with the rubbish plastic things, a leg popped off!

Phew I feel better now, with the problems I have been having lately Mine went up to 80c before I shut it down.

Doesnt seem so bad now
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxNUK3U73SI

This is "the" video that's been doing the rounds for years now. Critical cooling failures on a Pentium 4, Pentium 3 and two Athlons.

Edit: Love the dual-blower cooler on that Athlon 1400, haha :)

Done with fireworks naturally, they should have just done the AMD's as P4's had both thermal throttle, and full shutdown and will not burn, and even P3's had a thermal shutdown state at 120 degrees. (Basically all intel chips since P3 have had an omg 120 degrees OFF NOW saftey cutout). Also, even if you disable thermal management in bios (some allow you to disable the throttle state), you cant disable the 120 degree shutdown, its built into the CPU. Motherboards which shutdown before 120 degrees are using their onboard sensor as a double protection for your cpu, it doesnt replace the 120 degree shutdown :)

Toms hardware did some fun videos of what really happened to early Athlons when the heatsinks failed, a lot of smoke, and over 400 degrees, but they didnt actually explode. It did destroy the motherboards though :). P4 on the other hand just kept on ticking.. they demo'ed it with quake running, and as it started overheating it just dropped the framerate massively (as the cpu cut back to about 10% of its normal speed).
 
Oops :P, but yeah, only checked the first link then quoted the wrong one :). That toms hardware video is a good oldy, when Toms actually bothered reporting interesting info, and was slightly less biased to any hardware vendors.

I remember later on when if AMD was 1% faster is demolished Intel, yet if Intel was 10% ahead in a test it was quoted as "a slight lead for the P4" etc.
 
Done with fireworks naturally, they should have just done the AMD's as P4's had both thermal throttle, and full shutdown and will not burn, and even P3's had a thermal shutdown state at 120 degrees. (Basically all intel chips since P3 have had an omg 120 degrees OFF NOW saftey cutout). Also, even if you disable thermal management in bios (some allow you to disable the throttle state), you cant disable the 120 degree shutdown, its built into the CPU.
It's really weird how it took AMD that long to include that "emergency stop" into their CPUs.
No doubt it would have saved life of quite many AMD CPUs.
 
It's really weird how it took AMD that long to include that "emergency stop" into their CPUs.
No doubt it would have saved life of quite many AMD CPUs.

Oversight from AMD or brilliance from Intel thats the question... Older CPU's like the 386/486 even early pentiums could survive for hours even days with fan failers, and the coolers were so much lighter they rarely (if ever) broke clips and fell off. The same was true of the early AMD versions of those processors.

Pentium 2/3 really started to push the boundarys with heat, and a heatsink failer would become a serious problem, but the slot processors really held onto their heatsinks well, I believe AMD was using a slot processor at that time too.

But then both companies moved onto "flip chips" with the cpu die making direct contact with the CPU, Intel right away worked out heatsink faults would be critical/terminal, but amd were still relying on the motherboards to watch the temperatures (well it had worked for the previous 10+ years). Big mistake, and it took videos like that toms hardware one to bring it to the public eye and get the problem resolved.

Out of interest, Intel arnt the only ones with emergency shutdown, Nvidia were using 120 degree shutdown since the Geforce 4200-4800 series, and have shutdown and throttles built into their current GPU range. (not sure its always 120 for Nvidia, but the Ti4600 was)
 
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