12 to 15 year old gangs

Nelly said:
Not sure if this is a good idea or not, but how about a body cam? Record what they do and then get them done for at least Intimidation and harassment. Also, I would definitely contact the local MP and explain what is going on.

Check this out about Farbgel, yet its advertised as legal to use in the UK.

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Ever accidentally sprayed mosquito repellent in your eyes or breathed it right down?

Not much in the way of stand-off range, but whomever got a face-full of Jungle Formula isn’t going to be thinking about you for the next 60 seconds.
 
skipper847 said:
It just bad parenting. Anyone born after 2000 just think they are entitled. Parents probably think they are little angles when they are out. At that age my dad was taking me fishing or going on holiday with mum and dad not going round terrorising a whole town or village as said its happening all over surrounding villages too. Yes at 14 or 15 we did use to cruise round in my brother car who was 16 or his friends but we knew our boundaries and never use to harass other for sake it. :)
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There wasn’t much to do when I was a teenager in the 1980s. Youth clubs had shut, Scouts was dead boring; so hanging about the local park drinking, smoking and being somewhat annoying, but generally harmless was the usual pastime between school ending and the non-negotiable (for me anyway) time at which I must be seated at the family dining table having changed out of school clothes.

Of course, had we decided to terrorise the neighbourhood to a level that the local beat bobby couldn’t sort out with a few boxed ears, the world would have been suddenly full of blue lights and wooded truncheons.

The other significant encouragement to not be a little scrote was that there were still apprenticeships which could see you on your way earning a decent wage and eventually having your own home. Even the thickest of rural thickos could hold down a manual labour job that would pay a living wage back then if they turned up on time and worked hard.

Both that stick and that carrot don’t exist now for those born after 2010.

Society can’t threaten you with “you’ll never have nice things unless you straighten your life out” when they odds are very much against that now even if you tow the line unless you get lucky or the Bank of Mum & Dad can set you up.

TL:DR - If I was 15 years old in a dying Home Counties town with almost zero prospects and parents who couldn’t give a monkey’s about me, I’m fairly sure I’d be out doing whatever I wanted and causing a fair bit of bother.
 
Uther said:
Maybe we should actually bring back conscription. :D
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We cant even defend our selves with out proof off CCTV. One person told me it happened to them one time a few years back. They punched his girlfriend and started on him. when he challenged them they backed off abit but one decided to go a head and hit him. Then he beat the crap out of all 5 14 year olds. Next day he was in police station as they reported him and only got off from CCTV showing them ganging up on him until then he was guilty until proven and probably having a criminal record beating on minors if there wasnt proof.
 
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skipper847 said:
It just bad parenting. Anyone born after 2000 just think they are entitled. Parents probably think they are little angles when they are out. At that age my dad was taking me fishing or going on holiday with mum and dad not going round terrorising a whole town or village as said its happening all over surrounding villages too. Yes at 14 or 15 we did use to cruise round in my brother car who was 16 or his friends but we knew our boundaries and never use to harass other for sake it. :)
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Kids today think they're untouchable, they can do whatever they want and nothing will come of it. 30-40 years ago a smack around the back of the coupon or a good boot in the hole wasn't uncommon for these wee ********* stepping out of line. Wasn't near as much ******* around in areas when kids knew that they were liable to get a slap if the person they were torturing caught them.
 
Gerard said:
Kids today think they're untouchable, they can do whatever they want and nothing will come of it. 30-40 years ago a smack around the back of the coupon or a good boot in the hole wasn't uncommon for these wee ********* stepping out of line. Wasn't near as much ******* around in areas when kids knew that they were liable to get a slap if the person they were torturing caught them.
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Kids have learnt that if someone tries to slap you for misbehaving, you can stab them and the desire to slap them leaves most people.

On the other hand, if you know how to throw and aren't afraid to land first they do tend to crumble

 
hurfdurf said:
Kids have learnt that if someone tries to slap you for misbehaving, you can stab them and the desire to slap them leaves most people.

On the other hand, if you know how to throw and aren't afraid to land first they do tend to crumble

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I watched that many times. He did it effortlessly.
 
Last night 2 more business got broken into threw smashed door in. I think that nearly all of them in town centre now at least 1 time. Probably same people that got let off doing my brother and a couple more in when they did it. My area is getting out of hand and courts not doing a thing. A lot are talking about taking it into own hands now as we are getting annoyed from feral teen or even younger going round intimidating or its break-ins every where. I think they are al connected.
 
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Stu999 said:
They did run away afterwards.
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Also, Charles Veitch has a history of being antagonistic and he only hired this bodyguard because a young chap slapped him around so much that he sounded like he was going to cry. This was after he had again escalated the situation by being provocative.

Even if you can fight as well as he can, it's not a good idea unless you can record the entire incident, otherwise you'll probably be charged with assault. It's probably not even a good idea, even if you can somehow record everything properly.

It's satisfying to watch, but people should be cautious about trying it out for themselves. It's also in a city centre in the middle of the day, so things can't get too out of hand. In a small town in the evening with a larger group of youths, the situation could be much worse.
 
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Ayahuasca said:
Also, Charles Veitch has a history of being antagonistic and he only hired this bodyguard because a young chap slapped him around so much that he sounded like he was going to cry. This was after he had again escalated the situation by being provocative.

Even if you can fight as well as he can, it's not a good idea unless you can record the entire incident, otherwise you'll probably be charged with assault.
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Is it different if you all ready reported it like i have and said you dont even like going out? But then again as said all police was interested in was did i retaliate first time. When i said no but the 5th time or so i told them to f off etc. All i got back was you shouldnt have done that. I also asked what self defence can i use in case something happens the next time. All i got back was. Dont put your self in that situation. Like i want to be in that situation in first place duh.
 
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Nelly said:
Not sure if this is a good idea or not, but how about a body cam? Record what they do and then get them done for at least Intimidation and harassment. Also, I would definitely contact the local MP and explain what is going on.

Check this out about Farbgel, yet its advertised as legal to use in the UK.

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I think at this time of year you are just as well carrying some maximum deet insect repellent.
 
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Much as we'd all like to retaliate, in real life it's not like John Wick and most people would just end up getting stabbed.
 
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