I'm referring to the "racist attack" idea as being speculation.
As you've said, this is what they like to use to sell their papers.
15 year old army cadet attacked with a makeshift blow torch.
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I'm referring to the "racist attack" idea as being speculation.
As you've said, this is what they like to use to sell their papers.
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Mine is the exact opposite. I went to Old Trafford for a R.E.M. gig in 2008, got there around 11am, wandered around the area, went to the gig, trammed back and had to wait the night in Piccadilly station for my morning train back and the only disturbance I noticed (and by disturbance I mean a little noise) was from a small group coming back from their night out and accidentally bumping into a leaflet stand. That was it. You'd imagine it was a midweek night in a tidy rural village, not the centre of a "toilet" on a Saturday night.
I'm sure each city has their own high and low spots, but I was expecting it to be a hole and me to witness a whole host of incidents going off the reputation, but it was peaceful and the locals friendly.
What is yours? Why did you feel that a relatively minor albeit potentially serious assault amongst thousands was worthy of specific debate?
We all agree it's a crime, a serious one, we all probably agree that it's awful that such things happen in our cities, but other than that, on its own it is just another assault in a city with more than its fair shares of assaults...many with far more serious outcomes than this one...
So your reasoning?
So it's racist to say what the attacker looked like?
FML.
Maybe we do need to ship everyone who is not white off this **** hole of a rock we call the United kingdom.
He was talking about the relevance of it to the attack itself.
really? it seemed much more that they were talking about why it was mentioned in the article.
what is interesting is peoples offense at race being used as a descriptor but not the clothing or gender?
i cant wait till future police reports are "a person attacked another person please come forward if you have any information"
I'm asking for your reasoning why YOU think it is worthy of debate...what I think is irrelevant, I didn't post it.
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Pretty sure a shopkeeper lost his life last week too when he was robbed,although he tried to put up a fight..manchester again.
No it didn't.
The question was:
"Does the fact that the boy was a cadet and the attacker was black/Asian bare any relevance? Or would it not make national news if it was an asbo teen and a white attacker?"
To which the reply was:
"It could have relevance however quite frankly we don't know yet."
To which the agreement was:
"This. It's speculation until known."
They are talking about the relevance to the crime, quite clearly.
given this is gd and the equivalent of office/pub/general chatter do you ask your mates when they bring something up in conversation "so why do you feel that is worthy of debate"?
Except the relevance in this case is him basically asking why the article reported the race. in which case yes it is relevant as it is there to help identify the attacker.
Or the equivalent, "who cares..its your round, stop trying to avoid it with bs nonsense".
But then this isn't the pub, it's a discussion forum, not shooting the breeze with your mates down the pub...we have a thread for that (again).
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No it isn't. He very clearly asked what relevance it was to the crime, that was the context of the replies. It was even clarified by the poster subsequently, we've already accepted why the paper mentioned it. So that's it Tefal, you were wrong, accept it.
Oh joy, another cadet was threatened with being shot by a group of Asian men in a passing car earlier on in the day.
Kinda lucky he wasn't bundled into a car for his 15 minutes of fame on Youtube with the local branch of ISIS, as that's a real possibility these days for servicemen and cadets.
Let's hope this gets resolved before the mumpets at Britain first latch onto it and gain even more support.
Kinda lucky he wasn't bundled into a car for his 15 minutes of fame on Youtube with the local branch of ISIS, as that's a real possibility these days for servicemen and cadets.
Let's hope this gets resolved before the mumpets at Britain first latch onto it and gain even more support.
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Next up, we are seeking a human ( not wishing to discriminate on gender) who is of a height, and a race, and also has eyes and hair of a colour also, anyone with any information shouldn't phone in, in case you have the wrong person and that might cause them distress.
Stop playing the race card until something is actual racism.
I am pretty sure we all know why he did it. He will most likely be poorly achieving in life/school/college, from a lower socio-economic group, mixed up in the wrong crowd and highly susceptible to whatever twaddle he has been told. Like the rest of the idiots that do such things. He did it because he was too stupid to question why one would do such a thing.
Probably true but a lot of jihadis are intelligent and well-educations. An alarming number of Al-Queda/Islamic State members have been qualified doctors, engineers, and accountants. You can't dismiss the current global jihadi phenomenon as a consequence of ignorance and poverty.
Hope the guy who was attacked is OK and they catch the perp fast. I'd also hope that the perp gets an appropriate sentence but this is Britain so he'll be let off with a slap on the wrist.
errr perhaps to help identify the man so he can be reported./arrested?
i notice your offended by the physical description of the attacker but not by the description of his clothes?
How would that description given help identify the assailant?