£1500 budget *back after a long break!!*

[Aikon359]

ive heard a few bad things about crossfire mobos really, and have heard nothing but good news about the dfi expert.

but do you think the crossfire mobo will overclock as well as the nforce one?

im purely interested in getting the opteron running fast and havent heard anything about the crossfire mobo overclocking as well as the expert one yet.

 

[UKTopGun]

Wait for conroe! With a budget of £1500 you'd be mad not to wait imo. You just have to look at the preview speeds of them.

So imo don't buy the operaton, wait a few months for the conroe (unless your really impatient), buy a decent cooling system and it will own your opteron pretty easy.

Other than that your system looks very, very tastey...

 

[Tommy B]

Who would spend £1,500 on a PC that isn't AM2???

Get AM2!

 

[Aikon359]

lol cheers but yeah the problem is im waay too impatient lol, and i get the feeling the conroes are gonna be hella pricey!!!!

but heres my 5th *i think* rig with an r580 mobo instead *i guess just incase i fancy xfire one day

**to all!, does the crossfire dfi mobo clock cpus as well as the expert dfi?**

CP-148-AM AMD Opteron UP 170 Dual Core San Diego 2.0GHz 2MB Cache (Socket 939) - Retail (CP-148-AM)
£249.95 £249.95
GX-112-SP Sapphire ATI Radeon X1900 XT 512MB GDDR3 AVIVO TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (GX-112-SP)
£214.95 £214.95
HD-087-WD Western Digital Raptor 74GB WD740ADFD 10,000RPM SATA 16MB Cache - OEM (HD-087-WD)
£103.95 £103.95
CD-041-PO Pioneer DVR-111BK 16x16 DVD±RW Dual Layer ReWriter - (Black) OEM (CD-041-PO)
£22.95 £22.95
FG-024-AK Akasa AK-183-L2B Ultra Quiet 120mm Fan - 3 pin (FG-024-AK)
£9.95 £9.95
AC-000-AC Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound (3.5g) (AC-000-AC)
£5.95 £5.95
MO-014-BQ BenQ FP202W 20" Widescreen LCD Monitor - Black (MO-014-BQ)
£239.95 £239.95
FG-000-AR Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro CPU Cooler (Socket 754/939/940) (FG-000-AR)
£14.95 £14.95
CA-008-TG Tagan TG530-U15 530W ATX2.01 Easycon SLi Compliant Modular Silent PSU (CA-008-TG)
£61.95 £61.95
HD-002-HI Hitachi Deskstar T7K250 NCQ 250GB SATA-II 8MB Cache - OEM (0A31636) (HD-002-HI)
£52.95 £52.95
MY-008-GS G.Skill 2GB DDR HZ PC4000 (2x1GB) CAS3 Dual Channel Kit (F1-4000USU2-2GBHZ) (MY-008-GS)
£124.95 £124.95
KB-069-LG Logitech G5 Gaming-Grade Laser Mouse (KB-069-LG)
£31.95 £31.95
MB-019-DF DFI LanParty UT CFX3200-DR RD580 Crossfire (Socket 939) PCI-Express Motherboard (MB-019-DF)
£129.95 £129.95
Subtotal £1,264.35
VAT £221.27
Total £1,485.62

 

[Aikon359]

you being serious tommy?, *just checking* i havent heard any good news about am2 at the mo, plus availability is low, not many cooling solutions, ddr2 ram is hella pricey for performance grade stuff, id really rather shy away from am2 really...

 

[Tommy B]

you being serious tommy?, *just checking* i havent heard any good news about am2 at the mo, plus availability is low, not many cooling solutions, ddr2 ram is hella pricey for performance grade stuff, id really rather shy away from am2 really...

Because in a few months when "AM2 ONLY" things start coming out you'll regret it. If you're spending that much on a brand new PC, it makes economic sense to buy the latest and greatest. DDR2 is not actually that much more expensive. Although I appreciate the poor availability being an issue. And then when you upgrade in the future, what (second hand) is worth more, a 939 X2 4200 or an AM2 X2 4200???

There is no way in hell that I'd personally buy anything other than AM2 at this stage tbh.

 

[Aikon359]

by the time i next upgrade from this rig, then ill probably considder am2 but untill they worked the kinks out and theres a lot more for it il stick with 939 at the mo i think, and overclockers ddr2 is waay pricey

g.skill ddr2 2gig:£352

g.skill ddr 2gig:£146

 

[UKTopGun]

Wait for conroe! With a budget of £1500 you'd be mad not to wait imo. You just have to look at the preview speeds of them.

So imo don't buy the operaton, wait a few months for the conroe (unless your really impatient), buy a decent cooling system and it will own your opteron pretty easy.

Other than that your system looks very, very tastey...

 

[Beenom]

Wait for conroe! With a budget of £1500 you'd be mad not to wait imo. You just have to look at the preview speeds of them.

So imo don't buy the operaton, wait a few months for the conroe (unless your really impatient), buy a decent cooling system and it will own your opteron pretty easy.

Other than that your system looks very, very tastey...

Hey didn't you say that before in this thread?

As for Conroe, its still a good two months away, I'll be making my first rig then, I can afford to wait But if you can't then I'd get 939 since there is little AM2 stock and it doesnt seem to give much advantage over 939 if any?

 

[Aikon359]

cheers beenom, as said, i wouldnt go with am2 at all at the mo until its established, and conroe is too far away and prob too expensive lol

im just like you i think i need it now lolol


so this final spec seems good with everybody?

 

[UKTopGun]

Hey didn't you say that before in this thread?

Oh yeh... oops double post! lol

Conroe wont be too expensive if your buying a £270 opteron then you could probably afford the 2.4Ghz or even the 2.13Ghz which can still beat the fx-60 once OC'ed.

 

[Beenom]

Oh yeh... oops double post! lol

Conroe wont be too expensive if your buying a £270 opteron then you could probably afford the 2.4Ghz or even the 2.13Ghz which can still beat the fx-60 once OC'ed.

Ya thats true, but Aikon may not want to wait a couple of months for it . Also will it be full of bugs at release or not? Its going to be new hardware so i'm guessing it may have a few bugs?

 

[iraiguana]

get the new nforce am2 boards and a nice am2 in there, would be silly not to.

 

[SiriusB]

get the new nforce am2 boards and a nice am2 in there, would be silly not to.

If you are gonna go AM2 then you would have to wait until november for "proper" AM2 chips. At the moment anything labelled AM2 is just a 939 chip with a DDR2 memory controller. Everything else is the same.

In November AMD will be releasing the 60nm chips - THATS when you should be buying AM2 chips. AM2 is more about efficiency than performance which may be more of an important factor than raw speed when it comes to building a new rig.

So, go AM2 by all means but its a waste of money before the 60nm chips are released. Similarly, if you can wait go Conroe. I didn't bother waiting, I had waited since last year for my rig and tbh couldn't care less about Conroe. When it is time for me to build a new rig in a few years time Conroe will most likely be out-dated. In the very least something far better will no doubt be available from either AMD or Intel.

SiriusB

 

[Captain Kirk]

I think the only reason to go to AM2 is for the Nforce 5 motherboards. Unless they are going to support skt 939. The Nforce 5 chipset looks great for overclocking

 

[SiriusB]

I think the only reason to go to AM2 is for the Nforce 5 motherboards. Unless they are going to support skt 939. The Nforce 5 chipset looks great for overclocking

They will be good for OCing, but I can't really see the point of going for an AM2 system right now. After the end of this year then certainly AM2 is a nice option and you can probably overclock the nuts off it. You could however just go for a Conroe...

SiriusB

 

[Eliot]

Because in a few months when "AM2 ONLY" things start coming out you'll regret it. If you're spending that much on a brand new PC, it makes economic sense to buy the latest and greatest. DDR2 is not actually that much more expensive. Although I appreciate the poor availability being an issue. And then when you upgrade in the future, what (second hand) is worth more, a 939 X2 4200 or an AM2 X2 4200???

There is no way in hell that I'd personally buy anything other than AM2 at this stage tbh.

negative points aside, the dude speaks sense at the end of the day when you pay 1500 your paying for the premium, top quality kit so u need to it be upgrade-a-ble futureproof and up to date, and it is neither of those things, how ever after waiting for decent am2 stock and user opinions you may find yourself closer to conroe.

 

[Beenom]

Hmm if I was in your position I would wait until at least Conroe launch, so that when you do have to upgrade in the future, you don't have to buy everything new since you'll have socket 939. If you get Conroe/AM2 then you'll only have to upgrade a few things not everything at once .

This is like the worst time to buy/upgrade

 

[Eliot]

Hmm if I was in your position I would wait until at least Conroe launch, so that when you do have to upgrade in the future, you don't have to buy everything new since you'll have socket 939. If you get Conroe/AM2 then you'll only have to upgrade a few things not everything at once .

This is like the worst time to buy/upgrade

very true,.

 

[Aikon359]

well said, but in the world of computing, something new is always comming out, when is it NOT a good time to upgrade. id be waiting for ever if i kept doing this, i just want to buy a decent rig thats sturdy and available now, i cant keep waiting really, when conroe comes out itl be new and probably a bit buggy, so i wait for it to become more established, and by the time that happens a new amd chip will be out, BUT will be new and buggy, so i wait for it to become establised.....you see the pattern here?,

at least i know 939 is solid and an opteron performs well, its not like im gonna be doing mega high defenition gaming, so tbh i think sticking with 939 isnt too bad?