16 weeks served of 15 month sentence and he's out

Well these days prison appears to be an inconvenience to the criminal, not indeed a place to fear, or a place in which to learn from their crimes. Half the time they come out worse than when they went in, and they don't seem to pay for their crimes due to the stupidly light sentences they are given.
 
jamoor said:
probbably linked to this
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4796963.stm

doesnt this kind of thing happen all the time though?

THis looks like a high coincidence, doubt it has that much to do with it , more to do with hes not a rapist or physically dangerous to the public, but is dangerous in a driving way and prisonment wont teach him anything, banning him from driving will
 
Makes me laugh.

So many people complain about the cost of keeping people incarcerated, yet when systems like tagging are introduced (which in this instance I consider fair) people still moan.
 
Triad2000 said:
Well these days prison appears to be an inconvenience to the criminal, not indeed a place to fear, or a place in which to learn from their crimes. Half the time they come out worse than when they went in, and they don't seem to pay for their crimes due to the stupidly light sentences they are given.

Back me up with some evidence please :)
 
PindiExpress said:
So its not that he needs to be prisoned, that will do absoloute f all , he needs to be banned from driving
( http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/4764161.stm )

If all that had happened was dangerous driving I may be able to agree with such a statement, but his 16 week sentence is ridiculously short compared to the length of time that his victim will spend recovering from his injuries.
 
cleanbluesky said:
If all that had happened was dangerous driving I may be able to agree with such a statement, but his 16 week sentence is ridiculously short compared to the length of time that his victim will spend recovering from his injuries.
But he didn't cause those injuries with intent. Silly comparison really - eye for an eye and all that.
 
Domo said:
But he didn't cause those injuries with intent. Silly comparison really - eye for an eye and all that.

And I'm sure you wouldn't advocate anything more than a short sentence if it was someone you knew who had been smashed to pieces 'unintentionally'...

When one drives beyond the limits of safety they also accept the consequences of that...
 
Domo said:
But he didn't cause those injuries with intent. Silly comparison really - eye for an eye and all that.

He may not of intended it but he was still over taking another car (cant remember exactly what happenend) in his super car and ploughed into an on coming vehicle and paralasyed a poor mofo

He should be made to help the victim in any way he can for the rest of his life

The mans a penis
 
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PindiExpress said:
Learn to back your opinion instead of telling the reader to go and look for it himself ;)

Why do I have to back up my opinion? You either agree with what I think or you don't, I don't need to convince you with evidence.
 
PindiExpress said:
Back me up with some evidence please :)

Ok, not evidence but just my anecdote.

Three years ago I did some prison medicine in Walton prison over 5 weeks. It wasn't a high security prison just a catagory B. Being near Liverpool it meant it housed all the dealers or runners. These people tended to use drugs themselves and they'd come in looking terrible, but after a few months of 3 square meals a day etc they'd be a lot fitter and healthier.

The trouble is, they make so much money doing what they do thus there really isn't any incentive for them to sort themselves out, or even bother asking for the help that they might need. They return to their previous lifestyle and more often than not - are sent back down the following year when they get caught again.

I saw somebody leave after the first week, and come back right at the end of my placement, and the prison doctor I was alloted to said that he'd seen this happen over 15 years.

It's an inconvenience for them to come to jail because they can't make any money. However it's never really a problem, I mean they live better than us law abiding students *coughs*. The tax payer pays for their food, bills and even free Sky TV and a gym!! I don't know how else to explain it, but it's very obvious they see it as a free hotel.
 
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Triad2000 said:
Why do I have to back up my opinion? You either agree with what I think or you don't, I don't need to convince you with evidence.

Its not the fact of convincing is showing that where your opinion comes from is real and not just out of thin air, its a good skill to show that youve interperted news and been able to form an opinion based on the news, however failing to show that you have an opion but not being able to show where it has formed from is poor.
 
KingDing said:
Brings another meaning to "Do the crime, Do the tiime"

One rule for 1 and another for anyone not famous.

Nope.

One rule for all in that you get a fantastic early release for most crimes now. The system is a joke and the fact that prisons are full means people get tagged and released.

There are far worse than Hamed walking the street as a result of that system, although I don't condone what he did.

Prisons are full ? Build more. It's that simple.
 
Do me a favour GreenLiz, do a thread entitled something like "Should prisons be ****" and post your experience. I don't want to quote it without your permission, but I think a thread like that would get people talking... the idea would be that if prisons are ****, then people wouldn't want to go there.
 
Von Smallhausen said:
Nope.

One rule for all in that you get a fantastic early release for most crimes now. The system is a joke and the fact that prisons are full means people get tagged and released.

There are far worse than Hamed walking the street as a result of that system, although I don't condone what he did.

Prisons are full ? Build more. It's that simple.

Or bring back capital punishment. :)
 
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