16 year old bullying a Syrian refugee with a broken arm, choking and waterboarding him

[twistedheat]

It's people trying to show we're not all racist bigots, by supporting victims of racism who are exclusively non white. Though I bet you any money if there are videos of racism against white natives, of which there undoubtedly are, they won't get the same attention. Mostly because they won't be publicised anywhere outside youtube.

agenda, agenda, agenda, agenda, agenda, agenda

I mean you talk about agenda, agenda, agenda but then use this to fit your narrative.

There have also been plenty of racist videos against non-whites. There was numerous different ones of non-whites being abused on trains/underground etc over the last few years. Don't remember them gaining any donation traction either. If this was "white guilt", where were the donations for that?

The reality is, people see a kid in a cast getting bullied, understand he's a refugee and thus it's likely he not well off, the combination of child+potential poverty+bullying = heartstrings tugged at, donations made. Trying to make it seem like anything else is literally you having an agenda.

 

[twistedheat]

Oh wee, Jamal's GoFundMe is up to £145k.

Lovely jubbly. I can just sense the seethe from some of you as this ticks upwards. LOL, this is hilarious. Hope it hits 200k tbh.

 

[twistedheat]

So now the media reports are that the bully himself has been bully'd and threatened so much he has had to flee the COUNTRY.
Anyone got his GoFundMe page?

God society in this country is stupid. Bully and threaten a bully without even a thought for the irony and hypocrisy.

Are you allowed to leave the country if you've been charged?

Nvm Kenai beat me to it.

 

[twistedheat]

Lol you dont get your passport/freedom taken away over a triflingly small "case" such as this.

If this was true, the border security would have a list of about a million passports blocked at the borders.

I mean I wasn't asking if it was possible, I was asking if it was allowed. Whilst I think the police getting involved is OTT, now that it's happened doesn't fleeing just make it worse for him? Or would the police not care? I'm genuinely unaware of the rules/laws surrounding this.

 

[twistedheat]

Truth will come out soon...

I mean if it's the sister that was allegedly in the video of her pushing around Jamal's sister, I'd hardly call her a credible source.

 

[twistedheat]

Truth will come out soon...

Before anyone gets all teary eyed, just remember, in Germany 16yr old Syrian boys have raped and murdered 15 year old native German girls. A lot of the influx of these people are not angels.

I mean you yourself must see that's a bit of a ridiculous statement to make no?

What if I was to say "Remember, a couple of 10 year old Brits murdered a 2 year old. A lot of these Brits are not angels."

Or

"Remember, a couple of 13+14 year old British girls murdered a woman and filmed it on snapchat. A lot of these Brits are not angels."

Or perhaps

"Remember, a trio of British teenagers murdered a homeless man whilst he was sleeping rough, for a dare. A lot of these Brits are not angels."

Maybe attributing the behaviours of individuals/small groups to entire or majority of a group might be a silly thing to do. But who knows, maybe you think Brits are not angels either. I mean, then you can't think any one group of people are angels because literally every nation or race has a bunch of scumbags in it.

 

[twistedheat]

Lol at signing up to a Tech forum, just to post about Tommy Robinson, and **** off anyone who leans towards non 'MSM' sources....

Is there anything within this video posted, that you wish to highlight and comment on, which might help the discussion?

Edit: alt account I'm guessing...

Had a quick skim through the video, so correct me if I'm wrong as I couldn't be bothered to sit through the whole thing, but from what I saw he completely skipped over:

a) The mother's arrest for racism
b) The bully's social media littered with Britain First/Tommy Robinson stuff (no matter how you want to dress it up, both are xenophobic and racist)
c) The brother's arrest and prison sentence for violence during a "Britain First" march

Assuming I didn't skip over those parts, I wouldn't mind if he said "This is not racism, and the evidence that could suggest it was stemmed in racism is conjecture", but he has obviously not included it because it doesn't fit his narrative.

If I was to sit here and say some guy with ISIS paraphernalia at home, who went and attacked some white British person, was not a racist you'd be calling me a moron and rolling your eyes.

But as the evidence that this could be stemmed in racism doesn't fit the narrative of whatever the video is trying to push, it is ignored.

Even the posters above... "racist attack? really??" Imagine me saying that in a thread where a white person had been choked by an ISIS follower and tell me you wouldn't think I was a moron.

Edit: Oh wait, that's you LOL

 

[twistedheat]

How is supporting free speech and a miscarriage of justice virtue signalling?

Virtue signalling is exactly what it says on the tin. Showing off that "I have virtue" i.e high moral standards.

Except, well, "Morally high standards" are personal and entirely dependant on each person. Well all have a different idea of what is morally right and what is morally wrong.

Defence for free speech regardless of the content and context of the words may be someone's moral high standard, after all a moral is the principle of "right or wrong behaviour". If someone believes saying absolutely anything someone likes is the right behaviour, then the defence of that is the defence of a high moral standard. And the public defence of that standard, especially to show to others who have the same principle that you are doing this defending, say by making a public donation, is quite literally virtue signalling.

If donating to Jamal is virtue signalling, so is donating to Dankula. Unless done anonymously of course, because then no one is signalling anything.

Bloody virtue signallers though, ey.

 

[twistedheat]

And what does A, B and C ha e to do with two lads fighting at school?

Because he's saying in the video the situation was nothing to do with racism. Given the evidence, the balance of probabilities lies differently.

 

[twistedheat]

How so? The bigger kid is obviously a bullying **** and the smaller lad was his latest target, BUT, you can clearly hear him saying something along the lines of "what are you going to say now" or similar. I bet that the smaller lad isn't as angelic as the press are making out, as it seems he's done something to possibly cause the bigger lad to attack him.

Nothing racist is said between them, it even sounds to me (from the video) that one of the bigger lads mates might be foreign; or I'm just mishearing the Northern accents.

So, again, how is this altrication between two children racist?

I'm not repeating what I said in the original meesage. If you're not capable of comprehending what I said there, with regards to switching the situation to someone who had ISIS paraphanalia and members in their family, and the probability therein of any actions that person has made, then I can't really help you there.

 

[twistedheat]

Right. What the hell does ISIS have to do with two children fighting at school? You have watched the video I assume - you do know it's not a beheading or waterboarding incident at a school? It's an altrication between two lads, one bigger than the other, and the smaller of which is forced to the floor by his neck and has water tripped on him.

As I understand it, this happened a while ago and was all sorted, but the video did the rounds and all hell broke loose in the media, as shock horror - the smaller lad was a refugee from Syria (seven years ago apparently).

From what I could take of the Sargon video, he was speaking about how the entire incident had nothing to do with racism, and was just two children in a fight!

Are you able to understand that now?

Sure mate.

A Syrian kid with a mother who was arrested for race related rhetoric, a brother who was involved with ISIS, and then kid himself sharing links of Chowdry and other extremist Islamic rhetoric chokes a with a white kid with a broken arm and you'll the first one there arguing for it being nothing to do with racism/Islamic extremism etc. Give me a break.

Balance of probabilities. Go Google it if you're unsure of what it means.

 

[twistedheat]

Wow, it's almost like your now looking for things, that will help change the event to fit a narrative. Bit like the MSM, and probably those who donated.... how much did you give out of interest

So you're honestly saying, that as the bully has a 'racist' mother (in quotes as we all know it doesn't mean what it used to), a brother who was violent at a far-right/right march (any details on what he did out of interest), and has posted/retweeted questionably content, he is automatically racist? Though that 'balance of probability' means that overwhelming evidence must be supplied? Frankly, I don't think your A, B and C facts cut it imo mate.

Yes, the exact thing I'm saying is "On the balance of probabilities, the attack was likely racially motivated or had elements of racial motivation".

Also I don't know what definition of overwhelming your using, but balance of probabilities means "more likely than not". Not "overwhelmingly likely", just "more likely than not."

Plus, whilst I haven't donated because I'm a cheapskate, every penny that the number goes up by does by put on big ol' smile on my face. Especially in knowing it annoys some lol.