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Hey, new poster here (but been reading a while).... Correct me if I'm wrong, but we're not expecting the 56 to surface today are we? Just the various 64 models?
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Hey, new poster here (but been reading a while).... Correct me if I'm wrong, but we're not expecting the 56 to surface today are we? Just the various 64 models?
Correct, I believe it's August 28th for Vega 56, though you I'd expect to see reviews for the card popping up before then, if not in with the Vega 64 reviews today.
Soldato
Yea but not available until September. But I think performance reviews are allowed.
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Just reviews for the 56 today. Launch is in 2 weeks on the 28th August.
Yes, AMD asked reviewers at short notice to prioritise 56 reviews so they should be published today.
Caporegime
Yep,they brought forward the Vega56 launch and reviews.
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That's because it is the only one worth having... well compared to the others at least.
Caporegime
But with no available stock?
Caporegime
Most likely.
You are acting surprised - even the HD7900 series was reviewed before stock was available(IIRC). The release of the card is the 28th,so two weeks away.
I mean then you get the "hard launches" were basically only a few cards are actually available,and you have to wait weeks(or even longer) for cards.
Both AMD and Nvidia are guilty of that.
Soldato
Where are you getting that from?
Caporegime
Bringing a launch forward. To launch with no stock is silly
The 7970 launch was odd, because of when it launched. It was like back end of December.
7950 launch as "normal" reviews and stock day one.
The 7970 launch was odd, because of when it launched. It was like back end of December.
7950 launch as "normal" reviews and stock day one.
Caporegime
Unless I'm mistaken, everyone has said no 56 stock? I find it bizarre and would be surprised for a launch to be brought forward without stock.
Usually you get your flagship launching, then later the second tier. Usually they never launch together
Soldato
Thats actually a bad sign. It means they know the 64 is underwhelming and they need the 56 to salvage the launch.
The worrying thing will be when we get to the 56 launch and they're telling everyone to focus on the Nano instead xD
Caporegime
Remember in the other thread a few weeks ago,I said that the Vega64 water cooled editon was not massively more powerful whilst registering a massive TDP increase??
The TDP of the Vega56 is only 35W more than an RX580. If you look at the 14NM process node AMD is using,its shared with Ryzen. Look what happens when you push it to the edge - power consumption goes through the edge. Look at even the Ryzen 7 1700 against the Ryzen 7 1800X for example,or when you overclock any of them to the edge.
However,at more saner clockspeeds it is very efficient,so unless AMD has screwed up Vega56 as well,I expect it to look much better in terms of performance/watt.
Soldato
They're not launching together. Vega 56 was brought forward to 28th August.
He's meaning the reviews being brought forward to today but there will be not be any cards available for purchase, maybe pre-orders only.
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Wasn't GN saying that the FE Vega actually performed better when undervolted as it was cooler and thus held higher clocks and more consistently or something like that?
Caporegime
Wasn't 28th always the date? The embargo for reviews has been brought forward, hence why it's on display today
I've never seen a flagship and second tier product reviewed at the same time. And I've been here since the 5870
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