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1st GTX570 Review !!!

Very good news for anyone in the market for GTX480 as those will drop a lot as who wants to buy older tech for the same price as a GTX570!

GTX480 should be around £225-230 ish max which is a cracking price for the FPS on offer even if you do need to buy a 3rd party HSF to make it silent ;)

Used GTX480 market will be in freefall I reckon sub £200 now so not even worth selling.
 
When overclocking the GeForce GTX 570 we managed a 15% frequency boost, from 732MHz to a more impressive 842MHz. This improved performance by 11% in Call of Duty: Black Ops, 10% in Crysis Warhead and 11% in Battlefield Bad Company 2. Overall, this is an excellent result as it placed the GTX 570 within striking distance of the GTX 580.
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When overclocking the GeForce GTX 570 we managed a 15% frequency boost, from 732MHz to a more impressive 842MHz. This improved performance by 11% in Call of Duty: Black Ops, 10% in Crysis Warhead and 11% in Battlefield Bad Company 2. Overall, this is an excellent result as it placed the GTX 570 within striking distance of the GTX 580.
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If only it overclocked as well as Raven's, that 15% overclock would result in 20% higher performance, that would be a great card then :p


Seriously though, if you go on for instance Tom's results, the 5870 is right there, with better minimums in many games, at £180. As per usual EOL pricing beats ANY long term pricing, and pretty much always will.

I would like to see updated 5870 xfire results with newer drivers, did the 6870/50 bring all the xfire improvements from hardware alone, or partially from drivers, wonder if some improvement will happen in the next driver set or two, often new things are focused on new cards, like MLAA.

£180 for a 5870 is pretty outstanding(though has that price gone up?) Still £200 for a 5870 beats a 570gtx for £300 hands down.

Also why does that one guy keep saying $329, every review I've seen shows a $349 RRP, not a massive difference, but its still not $329.

5870/470gtx are just silly value right now, a 480gtx will probably get lower and lower till they are gone and are still better value and 5850's, some silly good deals on those aswell.

Thing is normally you get EOL pricing + a new more expensive gen that offers circa 80% higher performance, this gen, stuck on 40nm, that isn't going to happen which makes 5870/5850/480/470gtx pricing just, ridiculous value, at least compared to 580/570gtx pricing, we'll have to see final pricing after AMD's cards launch.


Most review sites seem to suggest the biggest difference in sound between 480/580gtx is down to the fan speed and where it speeds up as opposed to how fantastically better the heatsink is. LIkewise most users who use their own fan profile rarely complain about noise on their 470/480gtx's, it would seem the biggest problem with noise on the 480gtx's was over agressive fan profile's and, temps never quite seemed to reflect a lot of the review models.

I've not used a 480gtx so can't really say how hot or loud they get. 480/470gtx's with third party cooling should mostly not have that issue anyway.

Basically, till the "last gen" cards are out of stock, current gen looks horrible value for the performance.


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5870 for £180 on ocuk, 470gtx for £190, 5850 for £185(lol), the first two cards are basically within 10%, the 5870 sometimes ahead, and the 570gtx cost around 50% more, who on earth are these great value? Like I said previous gen you'd have same EOL pricing, but the new card would be £300, and 60-70% faster, good value. This gen its same EOL pricing, but the new card is less than 10% ahead, truly awful pricing right now as the 470gtx was at launch, same with the 5870.

When the 5870/470gtx are out of stock you've still got cheaper xfire/sli options that are faster, but not that much better in performance or price.
 
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drunkenmaster said:
If only it overclocked as well as Raven's, that 15% overclock would result in 20% higher performance, that would be a great card then :p


Seriously though, if you go on for instance Tom's results, the 5870 is right there, with better minimums in many games, at £180. As per usual EOL pricing beats ANY long term pricing, and pretty much always will.

I would like to see updated 5870 xfire results with newer drivers, did the 6870/50 bring all the xfire improvements from hardware alone, or partially from drivers, wonder if some improvement will happen in the next driver set or two, often new things are focused on new cards, like MLAA.

£180 for a 5870 is pretty outstanding(though has that price gone up?) Still £200 for a 5870 beats a 570gtx for £300 hands down.

Also why does that one guy keep saying $329, every review I've seen shows a $349 RRP, not a massive difference, but its still not $329.

5870/470gtx are just silly value right now, a 480gtx will probably get lower and lower till they are gone and are still better value and 5850's, some silly good deals on those aswell.

Thing is normally you get EOL pricing + a new more expensive gen that offers circa 80% higher performance, this gen, stuck on 40nm, that isn't going to happen which makes 5870/5850/480/470gtx pricing just, ridiculous value, at least compared to 580/570gtx pricing, we'll have to see final pricing after AMD's cards launch.


Most review sites seem to suggest the biggest difference in sound between 480/580gtx is down to the fan speed and where it speeds up as opposed to how fantastically better the heatsink is. LIkewise most users who use their own fan profile rarely complain about noise on their 470/480gtx's, it would seem the biggest problem with noise on the 480gtx's was over agressive fan profile's and, temps never quite seemed to reflect a lot of the review models.

I've not used a 480gtx so can't really say how hot or loud they get. 480/470gtx's with third party cooling should mostly not have that issue anyway.

Basically, till the "last gen" cards are out of stock, current gen looks horrible value for the performance.
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15% overclock gives me 20% speed! ROLFCOPTER>

I agree with you on the part EOL products such as 5870 / 470 / 480 make much more sense than these "new" cards. But 470/480 are pure toasters with poor standard cooling. I wouldn't recommend them unless you upgrade cooling somehow.

On the other hand 5870 really cant hang anymore. It gets squished in 3dmark11 by a 460 GTX. BADLY LET down by tessellation.
 
Skyrocket said:
15% overclock gives me 20% speed! ROLFCOPTER>

I agree with you on the part EOL products such as 5870 / 470 / 480 make much more sense than these "new" cards. But 470/480 are pure toasters with poor standard cooling. I wouldn't recommend them unless you upgrade cooling somehow.

On the other hand 5870 really cant hang anymore. It gets squished in 3dmark11 by a 460 GTX. BADLY LET down by tessellation.
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It gets squished in 3dmark, if it does, not seen, by something not used in any games yet. As shown, in Tom's results with 2 games that use tesselation or is it 3, the 5870 is on par or ahead of the 570gtx and never far behind, yet the 570gtx costs 50% more, squished in one benchmark that reflects literally no available games, isn't actually squished.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-570-gf110-performance,2806-8.html

With tess and dof I assume, just as unplayble on any card at any res due to the minimums, pointless settings.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-570-gf110-performance,2806-10.html

higher mins(till silly res/aa) basically same average(meaning that minimum barely ever happens at the silly res.

Basically in several games, with tesselation its right on top of it, sometimes a bit behind, and this is a heavily Nvidia centric benchmarking suite(several twimtbp titles, including Just cause, where its slower than the 5870), when its ahead, its no where near 50% ahead. The 5870 is basically on par, slightly ahead or up to 20% behind, same for the 470gtx, but the 570gtx costs 50% more(maybe60-65% more). Just not close to worth it, I'm ignoring Lost Planet 2, I played the first game, its woeful, no one plays the second game, its just dreadful and a Nvidia "look how we screwed AMD while ignoring game quality" game. Even their "look how we screwed AMD performance in this game, but whoops, we screwed ourselves also" Metro 2033 is unplayable with DOF/Tess on ANY card, sub 12fps minimums is just BS, all those cards will get 25+ mins with DOF off.

If the 5870/470gtx didn't exist, its not a terrible card, but not particularly good(460gtx sli/6850 xfire), but they do, and it blows for now.
 
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drunkenmaster said:
It gets squished in 3dmark, if it does, not seen, by something not used in any games yet. As shown, in Tom's results with 2 games that use tesselation or is it 3, the 5870 is on par or ahead of the 570gtx and never far behind, yet the 570gtx costs 50% more, squished in one benchmark that reflects literally no available games, isn't actually squished.
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Theres a thread on here have a look.
Spin it how you want with tessellation, 5870 becomes a 460gtx.
If your playing DX9-10 games yeah it can hang with 570gtx.
 
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