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Quite possibly, i though you meant the architecture. Think the 661 is a 65nm chip with VT
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2.13Ghz Intel Conroe at 3.1Ghz
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Soldato
wow i never knew you could get them yet, but i just found several 6x1 processors
No offence gashman but please use full stops... as your post a few above this is possibly the longest sentence I have ever read 
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As for it being hard to get parts, I don't believe it will be somehow. Considering this is a desktop chip unlike the dothans which were meant for laptops. While the motherboard will most likely cost around £50 more on average it seems worth it considering the speed diference between the current athlon 64 processors (this may change with AM2/K10 etc.).
Also, as someone else pointed out Intel do have a good track record for creating stable chipsets that also overclock very well so I wouldnt considerit a bad thing if you did have to have an intel based board. That doesnt mean it will be made by intel, they will just supply the chipsets.
As for lower prices, it seems the 2.4 conroe outperforms the FX-60 at about half the cost, so AMD are going to have to seriously drop prices to appeal to anybody unless they can bring something out to rival it.
.As for it being hard to get parts, I don't believe it will be somehow. Considering this is a desktop chip unlike the dothans which were meant for laptops. While the motherboard will most likely cost around £50 more on average it seems worth it considering the speed diference between the current athlon 64 processors (this may change with AM2/K10 etc.).
Also, as someone else pointed out Intel do have a good track record for creating stable chipsets that also overclock very well so I wouldnt considerit a bad thing if you did have to have an intel based board. That doesnt mean it will be made by intel, they will just supply the chipsets.
As for lower prices, it seems the 2.4 conroe outperforms the FX-60 at about half the cost, so AMD are going to have to seriously drop prices to appeal to anybody unless they can bring something out to rival it.
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I couldnt afford one of these anyway :O so long live 939
Jokester said:
Yes but the conroe wasnt overclocked by 500mhz.
And anandtechs encoding benchmarks were less than adequate, in the divx encoding one they didnt even mention how many frames the video had 
Its impossible to tell how fast its going to encode something if you dont know how many frames the video has. In the itunes one anandtech didnt even mention what codec they were using. 
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Soldato
Cyber-Mav said:
Hmm a 7800 faster than an x1900? Yeah let me smoke some of that please.
Soldato
the 7800 is as fast as X1900 in the same way a PS2 is to a PS3, that just utterly obserd reviewer bull. its either an unfair comparison or an over controlled benchmarks in most reviews ive read
Some more meaningful results here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=97248
3DMark01: 41210 3DMarks
Very impressive scores, but I guess it says more about the graphics card than the CPU. Gives a taster of whats to come though...
Bear in mind the above scores are on a 2.13Ghz Conroe overclocked to 2.66Ghz, which is essentially what the E6600 ($530) version will be at stock.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=97248
3DMark05: 13588 3DMarks
3DMark01: 41210 3DMarks
Very impressive scores, but I guess it says more about the graphics card than the CPU. Gives a taster of whats to come though...
Bear in mind the above scores are on a 2.13Ghz Conroe overclocked to 2.66Ghz, which is essentially what the E6600 ($530) version will be at stock.
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locutus12 said:not everybody...i have nothing against intels chips, i just think there an evil immoral company with no standards beyond those that allow for a greater bottom line
And your point is
These chips are definatly looking well worth the money, but we still need to see what AMD's chips perform like. When are they both out again?
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locutus12 said:not everybody...
That's every corporation full stop mate...
Soldato
Durzel said:
nah, they'd be meaningful results if it was an actual retail chip as opposed to an ES chip.
personally i'm trying not to get caught up in the hype, i'm just gonna wait till there released & we can see store bought chips hitting good clocks & repeating those kinda results before i throw a wad of dosh Conroe's way.
besides i need to read up on DDR2 ram in the mean time cos i aint got a clue what's considered good stuff when it comes to DDR2
There seems to be a bit of confusion about "having to use an Intel motherboard" here.
In short, the reason people are benchmarking Conroe mainly on Intel boards is because the only i975 board that supports Conroe at the moment is an Intel. You do not have to have an Intel board to run Conroe, it's simply that manufacturers haven't released boards to support it yet. In fact, the benchmark at the start of this thread was done on a Gigabyte i965 board.
Whilst everyone is aware that Intel boards have never been the best for overclocking, we can expect to see some new boards from other manufacturers based on i965 and new rev. i975 chipsets that will support Conroe come the summer.
In short, the reason people are benchmarking Conroe mainly on Intel boards is because the only i975 board that supports Conroe at the moment is an Intel. You do not have to have an Intel board to run Conroe, it's simply that manufacturers haven't released boards to support it yet. In fact, the benchmark at the start of this thread was done on a Gigabyte i965 board.
Whilst everyone is aware that Intel boards have never been the best for overclocking, we can expect to see some new boards from other manufacturers based on i965 and new rev. i975 chipsets that will support Conroe come the summer.
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