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2.13Ghz Intel Conroe at 3.1Ghz

Sam666 said:
Don't be childish because it is me get over it mate, you know what I mean, and my point was benching. Conroe’s damn fast atm yes and will be used but not for the top benching rigs, that will be them AMD server setups rigs. Even if I had the money given me I would rather buy a house or something lol, I think it’s crazy and sad how much people spend. Even people that own the 2x 7900 gtxs I think are sad.


Calling me childish is a personal insult which you throw around like they arent against the rules here :confused:

You incited an argument by saying "Conroe = dead already*", when that is clearly false.

*Changed due to poor spelling.
 
Sam666 said:
I never said it wasn't, read my first post and correct your self. I remember I said "Benching" all the benchs will still by hold by amd.

Doesn't matter if you have 12GHz of power and 4x cores - Conroe will still whip that machine at Super-PI since Super-PI is single-threaded which means it comes down to the speed of one core vs one core - in which Conroe wins. Also certain other benchmarks are single threaded in which that 4x beast means only 1 core will be used.
 
NathanE said:
These types of performance jumps are not uncommon when a new architecture debuts. I can still remember the Pentium hey-days, and boy they were...
Aye, I remember my Pentium 60MHz being about twice as fast as my mates AMD 486 at 100MHz for games - the PCI graphics was also a massve leap over VLB.
 
.. and seriously, saying calling a processor dead because it can be beaten using 2x dual cores server CPU is pretty silly.

"Since when have super nerds cared how much stuff cost?"

Since when do "super nerds" capable of affording those things define how well a processor sells (i.e. whether it lives or die?).
 
Not being funny but its not even worth arguing with people who actually put forth arguments like "Conroe isn't all that, Cray computers are wayy faster.. LOL conroe = dead". You can't argue rationally with that level of fanboyism.
 
Raikiri said:
Calling me childish is a personal insult which you throw around like they arent against the rules here :confused:

You incited an argument by saying "Conroe = dead already*", when that is clearly false.

*Changed due to poor spelling.
Grow up, you that much of a pussy in real life too?

Conroe won't make it anywhere the top in the bench’s when it finally gets released, considering it will only win Superpi times AMD will have a chip to pwn that one as well by that time. And people don't seem to understand that I am talking about benches, too many Conroe fan boys in this thread the time they bring it out and amds bring there’s out you be back on to the AMD ship again. After all the future is multiple cores and Intel’s multiple core technology is weak compared to AMDs they will rebuild it again from scratch.
 
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why on earth is there so much silly argument going on here about a processor that isn't even available yet, and won't be until much later this year, its like a bunch of racing drivers arguing whose cars better, when they've only seen one of the new generation cars, everybody is having flame war over anybody who says conroe isn't the best processor, all these conroe lovers saying AMD are doomed, how the hell do you know whats going on at AMD, do any of you work for them, or have any substancial information at all or are you just relying on rumour and bloody benchmarks? total lunacy i say
 
Sam666 said:
Grow up, you that much of a pussy in real life too?
*crap*


See what I mean mate? If you spoke to people like that in real life you would get a smack (in general, not being a KB warrior).

I think diferently to you, and I am on a forum where people discuss things. The second someone disagrees with what you post you insult them rather than having a debate.

I think you are the one that needs to grow up, people will always have a diferent opinion to you.

Oh and being offended by someone insulting me is pretty normal. As I can't react how I normally would in real life I don't see any point in getting suspended because of you and your inability to take constructive critisism.
 
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Sam666 said:
Conroe won't make it anywhere the top in the bench’s when it finally gets released, considering it will only win Superpi times AMD will have a chip to pwn that one as well by that time. And people don't seem to understand that I am talking about benches, too many Conroe fan boys in this thread the time they bring it out and amds bring there’s out you be back on to the AMD ship again. After all the future is multiple cores and Intel’s multiple core technology is weak compared to AMDs they will rebuild it again from scratch.

Considering that it's going to be released within the next 4-6 months, it will be at the top for a while. When K8L comes out (Q1 2007), we'll see the voltage and power consumptions of AM2 chips drop but that's really all unless the multiple FPU comes through and even then it's an increase in certain applications. Conroe has a decent increase across the board in both synthetic (Super PI) and real (Games such as Q4, etc.) benchmarks. Also people don't buy high end bits purely for benchmarking, it's for use aswell. But I doubt there's many of us here who would buy high end equipment purely for overclocking.

No doubt AMD will come up with something that beats it, it's just a matter of when and will it be enough...or will Intel have released something greater by that point.

Also I find your fanboy comment quite ironic and I shall leave it there.
 
Gashman said:
or are you just relying on rumour and bloody benchmarks?
*Shrug* - Aren't "bloody" benchmarks what we normally use to form an educated opinion of how certain piece of hardware performs? I am sure you didn't pick your Venice because you happened to like that town, or it happened to be an AMD chip, or you thought 3200+ was a nice number right? Chances are, you read that they were good clockers, and at the overclocked speed, they perform well. This is backed by some benchies. Well, we have previews for both the AM2 and the Conroe. Do they provide an absolute and final verdict? Nah, I'll wait for formal reviews. But they do provide some insight.
 
Any gaming benchmarks of this overclocked conroe or is the op going to leave everyone arguing over how super-pi affects real world performance and how multi cpu systems which cost thousands of pounds compare to a single desktop cpu costing <£500? :p
 
cypriobrit said:
If they are anything like the Dothans or Yonahs then will simply kick ass in gaming.

The Dothans and Yonahs aren't very good compared to the conroe... Dothan was the pentium M, and Yonah was two dothan cores stuck together with a shared L2 cache and a couple of minor improvements and adjustments to make the chip more media friendly and suitable for general, rather than notebook, use.

Yonah gives a little bit of a hint as to what's to come, but the conroe will be a fair bit quicker clock for clock :)
 
Raikiri said:
See what I mean mate? If you spoke to people like that in real life you would get a smack (in general, not being a KB warrior).
And I guess you’re the guy to do it? :rolleyes:

You hold a grudge over me from the thread from CC and it is so obvious.

People are too thick to understand what I am saying, too hyped up about the Conroe to actually think properly. So I leave it at that, if you read over a few times what I actually wrote then you might understand.
 
Sam666, give it a rest will you?

Anyone would think you were incapable of making a post or stating a point without being rude and insulting. Of course, if that is the case, your account can simply stop working.
 
Dolph said:
Sam666, give it a rest will you?

Anyone would think you were incapable of making a post or stating a point without being rude and insulting. Of course, if that is the case, your account can simply stop working.
It’s needed some times to get throw to thick people.
 
Sam666 said:
It’s needed some times to get throw to thick people.

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that is the best post i have seen in ages

everyone will buy conroe, and, you forgot to mention that intel will have a nice shiney new set of server chips that will bench ;)
 
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