2 Loops ???

i have got my pc stripped again how do i put the hard drives in backwards when i have a large fan attached to the front of the hdd box ? as i dont think this fan is suppose to come off ?
 
it might not be removable, im surprised if it isnt. The bay holds four drives, youve only got three. Thats the key,
Plug the cables into a hard drive, then slide it backwards into the top slot.
Then the cables into the next one, slide it into the next one down.
One more
Then all are in, and all the cables are coming out below the lowest drive.
Issue you'll face is cables catching on the fan, it helps that you have 90 degree sata leads. If possible, work out hot to detach the fan, screw a fan guard into the back of it, then put it back on. Ill have a look at your photos and see if I can work out how to remove it

Its fairly clearly pinned in place. cut the pins off, put the fan guard on the other side of it, screw it into the hard drive box, Normal fan screws are very likely to work for this. Failing that screws + nuts will do, I use M3. Failing that, cable ties will be fine, two per hole. It'll be easier to put the drives in with the fan removed too

Dust the fan while youre at it :)
 
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could i get away with putting the drives back in the same way but like you said feed the sata lead under each drive so that they all come out the bottom of box ? then i can instal the box as normal ?

also what about fitting a 2nd double rad verticall in the front drive bays and attach it to the box to hold it in place?

no cant do my idea cables not long enough
 
if your sata leads are long that'll be viable. Can get quite long ones I think. Most of your cable issues looked to be the power leads, turning them around is really far better. I've been doing it to mine pretty much since I bought it.

Look how tidy the drive is :) its the box just above the floppy drive. The rest of the cable management is *ahem* less impressive so far
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A second double radiator may well fit. If it does, a triple in the top and a double in the front would be very, very good cooling. Id still want to replace the current triple though. Measure up and see

Still dont know what fans youre using, and how goes making shrouds?
 
could i do the following:-


Pump/red -> Triple rad -> Cpu -> Double Rad -> Gfx card 1 -> gfx card 2 -> Pump/Rad.

or

Pump/Rad -> Double Rad -> cpu -> Triple Rad -> Gfx card 1 -> Gfx card 2 -> Pump/Rad.

Would my pump be able to cope?? its a DCC 18w with xspc res top ?
 
well if i can get away with not having to have another pump then i dont have to worry too much about cable management as it was for the sole reason to try and make room for a 2nd pump/res


As for my fans well i dont think there anything special i think they just plain exhast fans you get on a case ?
 
could i do the following:-


Pump/red -> Triple rad -> Cpu -> Double Rad -> Gfx card 1 -> gfx card 2 -> Pump/Rad.

or

Pump/Rad -> Double Rad -> cpu -> Triple Rad -> Gfx card 1 -> Gfx card 2 -> Pump/Rad.

Would my pump be able to cope?? its a DCC 18w with xspc res top ?
 
Reverse the hard drives even if not making room for a pump, less cables means more airflow and everything cooler. It's just always good practice. Also looks cleaner and makes the system easier to work on.

Loop order doesn't matter. Reservoir before pump, which you're stuck with anyway :), and then just try to minimise tubing length. Ideally avoid using 90 degree fittings.

The pump will be fine, especially if theyre good radiators. High restriction loops is what it was made for, it'll run cooler if it's having to push harder too. If eventually you decide you want higher flow rate for some reason, put another ddc in series with it (without its own reservoir). Still don't need dual loops.

Fans matter very much with this, I believe we just found the problem. Particularly with high fin density radiators (like yours) , crap fans wont be able to push enough air through them. case fans are optimised for high airflow, which is no good to you here.
You need high static pressure, the expensive noctua and inexpensive yate loons are loved for this. I use scythe s-flex. It's possible, though I wouldn't bank on it, that three fans with shrouds would completely turn your radiator around.

The money saved on not getting another ddc will get you a godo triple radiator, and some yate loons. I think this is a better idea. A good triple, with 3 shrouds and 3 fans, really should cope with that heatload. Temps wont be lovely, but far from crashing. A good triple and a good double if it fits and youre laughing.

One loop over two is very much my opinion mind, I opened a thread about it ages ago. Have a read and make your own decision, a lot of good information in it. Dual loops. Why?
I've suddenly become aware that I'm steering you down the path I think is best rather than that which the community seems to be in love with.
 
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