2005 Belgian Grand Prix

Byron5184 · 10 Sep 2005 at 12:49

What a lap from Trulli, put the rest of them to shame.

vanpeebles · 10 Sep 2005 at 12:49

i wonder how much fuel them toyotas have to do laps like that?

Flibster · 10 Sep 2005 at 12:49

2005 Belgian Grand Prix Qualifying

Code:

[b]Running Order[/b]

[b]Pos	Driver			Team[/b]
1	Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota
2	Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth
3	Robert Doornbos		Minardi-Cosworth
4	Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota
5	Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda
6	David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing
7	Mark Webber		Williams-BMW
8	Chriatian Klien		Red Bull Racing
9	Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari
10	Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas
11	Michael Schumacher	Ferrari
12	Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas
13	Jenson Button		BAR-Honda
14	Antonio Pizzonia	Williams-BMW
15	Ralf Schumacher		Toyota
16	Jarno Trulli		Toyota
17	Kimi Raikkonen		McLaren-Mercedes
18	Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault
19	Fernando Alonso		Renault
20	Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-mercedes

Trulli on track

S1 - 0.069 up
S2 - 0.803 up
Laptme - 1:46.596

0.805 up

Did a hard out lap - should have helped with getting the car up to temp.
Plus - did limited running this weekend so it'll help him find out what shape the car is in.

Beautiful lap - the car was completely nailed down..

Code:

[b]Driver	Team			Time[/b]
Trulli		Toyota			1:46.596
R.Schumacher	Toyota			1:47.401
M.Schumacher	Ferrari			1:47.476
Massa		Sauber-Petronas		1:47.867
Button		BAR-Honda		1:47.978
Webber		Williams-BMW		1:48.071
Sato		Bar-Honda		1:48.353
Coulthard	Red Bull Racing		1:48.508
Barrichello	Ferrari			1:48.550
Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas		1:48.889
Pizzonia	Williams-BMW		1:48.898
Klien		Red Bull Racing		1:48.994
Doornbos	Minardi Cosworth	1:49.779
Albers		Minardi-Cosworth	1:49.842
Monteiro	Jordan-Toyota		1:51.498
Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota		1:51.675

Flibster · 10 Sep 2005 at 12:51

2005 Belgian Grand Prix Qualifying

Code:

[b]Running Order[/b]

[b]Pos	Driver			Team[/b]
1	Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota
2	Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth
3	Robert Doornbos		Minardi-Cosworth
4	Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota
5	Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda
6	David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing
7	Mark Webber		Williams-BMW
8	Chriatian Klien		Red Bull Racing
9	Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari
10	Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas
11	Michael Schumacher	Ferrari
12	Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas
13	Jenson Button		BAR-Honda
14	Antonio Pizzonia	Williams-BMW
15	Ralf Schumacher		Toyota
16	Jarno Trulli		Toyota
17	Kimi Raikkonen		McLaren-Mercedes
18	Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault
19	Fernando Alonso		Renault
20	Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-mercedes

Raikkonen on track

S1 - 0.191 up
S2 - 0.129 down
Laptme - 1:46.440

0.156 up

WOW....

That McLaren is superbly fast.

Code:

[b]Driver	Team			Time[/b]
Raikkonen	McLaren-Mercedes	1:46.440
Trulli		Toyota			1:46.596
R.Schumacher	Toyota			1:47.401
M.Schumacher	Ferrari			1:47.476
Massa		Sauber-Petronas		1:47.867
Button		BAR-Honda		1:47.978
Webber		Williams-BMW		1:48.071
Sato		Bar-Honda		1:48.353
Coulthard	Red Bull Racing		1:48.508
Barrichello	Ferrari			1:48.550
Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas		1:48.889
Pizzonia	Williams-BMW		1:48.898
Klien		Red Bull Racing		1:48.994
Doornbos	Minardi Cosworth	1:49.779
Albers		Minardi-Cosworth	1:49.842
Monteiro	Jordan-Toyota		1:51.498
Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota		1:51.675

Flibster · 10 Sep 2005 at 12:53

2005 Belgian Grand Prix Qualifying

Code:

[b]Running Order[/b]

[b]Pos	Driver			Team[/b]
1	Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota
2	Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth
3	Robert Doornbos		Minardi-Cosworth
4	Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota
5	Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda
6	David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing
7	Mark Webber		Williams-BMW
8	Chriatian Klien		Red Bull Racing
9	Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari
10	Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas
11	Michael Schumacher	Ferrari
12	Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas
13	Jenson Button		BAR-Honda
14	Antonio Pizzonia	Williams-BMW
15	Ralf Schumacher		Toyota
16	Jarno Trulli		Toyota
17	Kimi Raikkonen		McLaren-Mercedes
18	Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault
19	Fernando Alonso		Renault
20	Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-mercedes

Fisichella on track

S1 - 0.400 up
S2 - 0.209 down
Laptme - 1:46.497

0.057 down

Where did that 0.400 in S1 come from?

I have no idea how that car is set up...It's all over the shop...

Code:

[b]Driver	Team			Time[/b]
Raikkonen	McLaren-Mercedes	1:46.440
Fisichella	Renault			1:46.497
Trulli		Toyota			1:46.596
R.Schumacher	Toyota			1:47.401
M.Schumacher	Ferrari			1:47.476
Massa		Sauber-Petronas		1:47.867
Button		BAR-Honda		1:47.978
Webber		Williams-BMW		1:48.071
Sato		Bar-Honda		1:48.353
Coulthard	Red Bull Racing		1:48.508
Barrichello	Ferrari			1:48.550
Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas		1:48.889
Pizzonia	Williams-BMW		1:48.898
Klien		Red Bull Racing		1:48.994
Doornbos	Minardi Cosworth	1:49.779
Albers		Minardi-Cosworth	1:49.842
Monteiro	Jordan-Toyota		1:51.498
Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota		1:51.675

Flibster · 10 Sep 2005 at 12:56

2005 Belgian Grand Prix Qualifying

Code:

[b]Running Order[/b]

[b]Pos	Driver			Team[/b]
1	Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota
2	Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth
3	Robert Doornbos		Minardi-Cosworth
4	Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota
5	Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda
6	David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing
7	Mark Webber		Williams-BMW
8	Chriatian Klien		Red Bull Racing
9	Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari
10	Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas
11	Michael Schumacher	Ferrari
12	Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas
13	Jenson Button		BAR-Honda
14	Antonio Pizzonia	Williams-BMW
15	Ralf Schumacher		Toyota
16	Jarno Trulli		Toyota
17	Kimi Raikkonen		McLaren-Mercedes
18	Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault
19	Fernando Alonso		Renault
20	Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-mercedes

Alonso on track

S1 - 0.195 up
S2 - 0.502 down
Laptme - 1:46.760

0.320 down

Fast in S1 - not really anywhere else.

Surprising.

Code:

[b]Driver	Team			Time[/b]
Raikkonen	McLaren-Mercedes	1:46.440
Fisichella	Renault			1:46.497
Trulli		Toyota			1:46.596
Alonso		Renault			1:46.760
R.Schumacher	Toyota			1:47.401
M.Schumacher	Ferrari			1:47.476
Massa		Sauber-Petronas		1:47.867
Button		BAR-Honda		1:47.978
Webber		Williams-BMW		1:48.071
Sato		Bar-Honda		1:48.353
Coulthard	Red Bull Racing		1:48.508
Barrichello	Ferrari			1:48.550
Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas		1:48.889
Pizzonia	Williams-BMW		1:48.898
Klien		Red Bull Racing		1:48.994
Doornbos	Minardi Cosworth	1:49.779
Albers		Minardi-Cosworth	1:49.842
Monteiro	Jordan-Toyota		1:51.498
Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota		1:51.675

Flibster · 10 Sep 2005 at 12:59

2005 Belgian Grand Prix Qualifying

Code:

[b]Running Order[/b]

[b]Pos	Driver			Team[/b]
1	Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota
2	Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth
3	Robert Doornbos		Minardi-Cosworth
4	Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota
5	Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda
6	David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing
7	Mark Webber		Williams-BMW
8	Chriatian Klien		Red Bull Racing
9	Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari
10	Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas
11	Michael Schumacher	Ferrari
12	Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas
13	Jenson Button		BAR-Honda
14	Antonio Pizzonia	Williams-BMW
15	Ralf Schumacher		Toyota
16	Jarno Trulli		Toyota
17	Kimi Raikkonen		McLaren-Mercedes
18	Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault
19	Fernando Alonso		Renault
20	Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-mercedes

Montoya on track

S1 - 0.078 up
S2 - 0.038 up
Laptme - 1:46.391

0.049 up

Lap didn't look as fast as some of the others - but was beautifully driven.

Well done Montoya - how will Raikkonen get in front though...

Code:

[b]Driver	Team			Time[/b]
Montoya		McLaren-Mercedes	1:46.391
Raikkonen	McLaren-Mercedes	1:46.440
Fisichella	Renault			1:46.497
Trulli		Toyota			1:46.596
Alonso		Renault			1:46.760
R.Schumacher	Toyota			1:47.401
M.Schumacher	Ferrari			1:47.476
Massa		Sauber-Petronas		1:47.867
Button		BAR-Honda		1:47.978
Webber		Williams-BMW		1:48.071
Sato		Bar-Honda		1:48.353
Coulthard	Red Bull Racing		1:48.508
Barrichello	Ferrari			1:48.550
Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas		1:48.889
Pizzonia	Williams-BMW		1:48.898
Klien		Red Bull Racing		1:48.994
Doornbos	Minardi Cosworth	1:49.779
Albers		Minardi-Cosworth	1:49.842
Monteiro	Jordan-Toyota		1:51.498
Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota		1:51.675

xolotl · 10 Sep 2005 at 13:07

Looks like its going to be intresting tomorrow. I do hope it rains, we havn't had a proper wet GP in ages.

Mad old tory · 10 Sep 2005 at 13:16

So what's happened to Jim this weekend, his overexcitement harm his ticker or something?

Flibster · 10 Sep 2005 at 13:21

Mad old tory said:
So what's happened to Jim this weekend, his overexcitement harm his ticker or something?

TBH...who cares...

New guy *Angus??* actually seems to enjoy F1 and knows a bit about it...

Simon/~Flibster

Type_R · 10 Sep 2005 at 13:47

LOL

Jim is gone...a small step for man a giant leap for F1!

Shaping up to be a good race..if it rains...who knows what might happen. Have a sneaky suspicion BAR will be quite good in the rain!

Flibster · 10 Sep 2005 at 15:09

Type_R said:
Have a sneaky suspicion BAR will be quite good in the rain!

Well..they've been crap in the dry so far.

Simon/~Flibster

Aaaaand...Qualifying times...

Qualifying

Code:

[b]Pos	No	Driver			Team			Time[/b]
1	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes	1:46.391		
2	9	Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes	1:46.440		
3	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault			1:46.497		
4	16	Jarno Trulli		Toyota			1:46.596		
5	5	Fernando Alonso		Renault			1:46.760		
6	17	Ralf Schumacher		Toyota			1:47.401		
7	1	Michael Schumacher	Ferrari			1:47.476		
8	12	Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas		1:47.867		
9	3	Jenson Button		BAR-Honda		1:47.978		
10	7	Mark Webber		Williams-BMW		1:48.071		
11	4	Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda		1:48.353		
12	14	David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing		1:48.508		
13	2	Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari			1:48.550		
14	11	Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas		1:48.889		
15	8	Antonio Pizzonia	Williams-BMW		1:48.898		
16	15	Christian Klien		Red Bull Racing		1:48.994		
17	20	Robert Doornbos		Minardi-Cosworth	1:49.779		
18	21	Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth	1:49.842		
19	18	Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota		1:51.498		
20	19	Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota		1:51.675

Sector Times

Code:

[b]Sector 1[/b]
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time[/b]
1	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	28.821 
2	5	Fernando Alonso		29.026 
3	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	29.143 
4	9	Kimi Räikkönen		29.221 
5	12	Felipe Massa		29.285 
6	11	Jacques Villeneuve	29.353 
7	16	Jarno Trulli		29.412 
8	7	Mark Webber		29.459 
9	17	Ralf Schumacher		29.481 
10	14	David Coulthard		29.533 
11	1	Michael Schumacher	29.535 
12	21	Christijan Albers	29.537 
13	2	Rubens Barrichello	29.564 
14	15	Christian Klien		29.575 
15	8	Antonio Pizzonia	29.576 
16	20	Robert Doornbos		29.623 
17	4	Takuma Sato		29.626 
18	3	Jenson Button		29.645 
19	18	Tiago Monteiro		30.039 
20	19	Narain Karthikeyan	30.129

Code:

[b]Sector 2 [/b]
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time[/b]
1	16	Jarno Trulli		46.834 
2	9	Kimi Räikkönen		47.154 
3	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	47.193 
4	1	Michael Schumacher	47.383 
5	17	Ralf Schumacher		47.568 
6	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	47.762 
7	3	Jenson Button		47.817 
8	5	Fernando Alonso		47.850 
9	7	Mark Webber		48.171 
10	12	Felipe Massa		48.223 
11	4	Takuma Sato		48.286 
12	2	Rubens Barrichello	48.359 
13	14	David Coulthard		48.581 
14	8	Antonio Pizzonia	48.671 
15	15	Christian Klien		48.839 
16	11	Jacques Villeneuve	49.037 
17	20	Robert Doornbos		49.217 
18	21	Christijan Albers	49.711 
19	19	Narain Karthikeyan	50.171 
20	18	Tiago Monteiro		50.283

Code:

[b]Sector 3 [/b]
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time[/b]
1	5	Fernando Alonso		29.884 
2	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	29.914 
3	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	30.055 
4	9	Kimi Räikkönen		30.065 
5	16	Jarno Trulli		30.350 
6	17	Ralf Schumacher		30.352 
7	12	Felipe Massa		30.359 
8	14	David Coulthard		30.394 
9	4	Takuma Sato		30.441 
10	7	Mark Webber		30.441 
11	11	Jacques Villeneuve	30.499 
12	3	Jenson Button		30.516 
13	1	Michael Schumacher	30.558 
14	15	Christian Klien		30.580 
15	21	Christijan Albers	30.594 
16	2	Rubens Barrichello	30.627 
17	8	Antonio Pizzonia	30.651 
18	20	Robert Doornbos		30.939 
19	18	Tiago Monteiro		31.176 
20	19	Narain Karthikeyan	31.375

Speed Trap

Code:

[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time		Speed[/b]
1	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	13:51:37	317.7 
2	5	Fernando Alonso		13:53:53	316.4 
3	11	Jacques Villeneuve	13:26:38	314.1 
4	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	13:56:14	313.4 
5	9	Kimi Räikkönen		13:49:40	313.1 
6	12	Felipe Massa		13:34:55	312.5 
7	15	Christian Klien		13:21:46	311.0 
8	20	Robert Doornbos		13:06:52	310.9 
9	21	Christijan Albers	13:04:39	310.3 
10	14	David Coulthard		13:17:15	310.3 
11	8	Antonio Pizzonia	13:39:41	310.1 
12	1	Michael Schumacher	13:32:46	309.0 
13	4	Takuma Sato		13:11:27	308.8 
14	7	Mark Webber		13:19:38	308.5 
15	2	Rubens Barrichello	13:24:18	308.1 
16	16	Jarno Trulli		13:47:28	307.1 
17	3	Jenson Button		13:37:16	306.8 
18	19	Narain Karthikeyan	13:02:24	305.0 
19	17	Ralf Schumacher		13:41:41	304.9 
20	18	Tiago Monteiro		13:09:06	302.2

//Mike · 10 Sep 2005 at 15:10

Did you watch the GP2 race Flib?

vanpeebles · 10 Sep 2005 at 15:15

haha i was gonna say that mike, it was funny wasnt it. those boys be better off in bumper cars! them marshalls got a fright!

Flibster · 10 Sep 2005 at 17:55

Didn't watch GP2 - things to see and people to do...

Wait....

Reverse that...

Simon/~Flibster

Type_R · 10 Sep 2005 at 17:56

TOYOTA CONFIRMS BRIDGESTONE TALKS

“Toyota can confirm that it is in advanced negotiations with Bridgestone over tyre supply for its Formula 1 team in 2006, but no agreement has been signed.

“The decision to consider a switch of tyre supplier has been made by Toyota.”

Although Michelin has dominated F1 this season, many suspect that its advantage could be lost if the current single lap qualifying system is scrapped in the near future.

There are also suggestions that Michelin will withdraw from the sport within the next few years because the company does not agree with the FIA’s plan for F1 to rely on a single tyre supplier from 2008.

Teams switching to Bridgestone in advance may therefore gain an advantage if the Japanese company becomes grand prix racing’s sole tyre manufacturer.

Paddock rumours also link Williams with a move from Michelin to Bridgestone.

http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=34018

Flibster · 10 Sep 2005 at 17:56

Well....team no1 has switched..

Official: WilliamsF1 switches to Bridgestone

Bridgestone Motorsport is delighted to announce that it has entered into a multi-year agreement with the WilliamsF1 Team for the supply of Bridgestone Potenza Formula One tyres from 2006.

Bridgestone first supplied the WilliamsF1 Team with tyres in 1999 and 2000, during a period of single tyre supplier status, and is now pleased to welcome back the team within an environment of competitive tyre supply.

Hiroshi Yasukawa, Director of Bridgestone Motorsport commented:

"It is with great pleasure that I can now confirm that Bridgestone Motorsport and the WilliamsF1 Team have entered into a tyre supply partnership, to commence after the end of the current season. WilliamsF1 is one of the most experienced and respected teams competing in the FIA Formula One World Championship and I would like to thank Sir Frank Williams for his faith in our technological capabilities.

"Since entering Formula One in 1997, Bridgestone Motorsport has supplied the winning Constructors’ and Drivers’ Champions no fewer than seven times and we now look forward to working closely with the WilliamsF1 Team to help them achieve their goals in the future."

Flibster · 10 Sep 2005 at 17:57

And it's a sad sad day....

Red Bull issues statement

Today, at the Spa-Francorchamps circuit, an agreement was reached whereby, from 1st November 2005, Austria's Red Bull GmbH will take over all the company shares of the Minardi Formula 1 team and will be responsible for running the team. Red Bull will therefore run two Formula 1 teams from the start of the 2006 season onwards.

The second team will be positioned as a 'Rookie Team' and this and the current Red Bull Racing will operate independently of one another and compete against one another on the track. The main reasons for Red Bull deciding to enter a second team starting in the 2006 Formula 1 World Championship are:

Red Bull has more talented drivers than it has available cockpits. This meant there were only two ways of helping up-coming drivers: either place them in other teams or to increase the number of cockpits available to us. After much careful thought, Red Bull decided to go with the second of these options.

Looking at the current state of Formula 1 we feel that the second team will be able to maintain its current assets while also being able to generate its own income in the future, in order to become almost self- financing.

This acquisition also means that Red Bull now has a second vote in any matters raised regarding the future of Formula 1.

At the moment, no decisions have been taken as regards the name of the team, its management nor its drivers.

Flibster · 10 Sep 2005 at 17:58

Stoddart admits to sadness

In a statement issued following today's announcement that he has sold his Minardi team to Red Bull, Paul Stoddart admitted to a feeling of sadness.

"From a purely personal standpoint, I am going to be very sad to leave this paddock and the sport I love," said the Australian. "I have always said, however, that I would consider selling the team if a serious potential buyer could meet certain key conditions.

"Specifically, I wanted to be convinced of the following: (1) there was sufficient personal commitment and commercial backing in place to move the team to a level of competitiveness that I could not; (2) the team would continue to be based in Italy; and (3) the majority of team personnel would have a stable future.

"After detailed discussions with Dr Mateschitz's representatives, I am satisfied that Red Bull meets all of these criteria, and on that basis, I have agreed to sell the team."

This means that for the first time since 1985, Minardi will be missing from the Formula One grid next year when the 2006 season gets underway, since it is highly unlikely that the name will be retained.

Gian Carlo Minardi began in Italian F3 then progressed to F2, building his first car in 1980. The team briefly merged with Scuderia Italia in 1994 before the Italian sold control of the team to Flavio Briatore and Gabrielle Rumi at the end of 1996. The following year Rumi took control but the team continued to struggle, and was eventually taken on by Stoddart in 2001.

Over the years, the Italian team has introduced many drivers to F1, and Stoddart takes delight in the fact that Fernando Alonso, who could win the 2005 title this weekend, began his F1 career with the Faenza team.

"It would be entirely fitting, and not beyond the realms of possibility, to see Fernando Alonso crowned as the youngest ever Formula One World Champion here tomorrow."

"I want to thank everyone at Minardi for their unflagging support over the five years of my ownership," said Stoddart. "It may be the smallest team currently on the Formula One grid, but it definitely possesses the largest heart."

Type_R · 10 Sep 2005 at 18:08

It is indeed sad that Minardi has now gone.

2005 Belgian Grand Prix

Man of Honour