2005 British Grand Prix
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If its a sellout for the weekend 100,000 tickets lets say its a 50/50 split between £95 tickets and £135 tickets (to account for minors etc) thats upto £11.5 million then you have the sale of food, merchandise blah blah blah.
Its the entire package imho, getting in an out of the place is a pain so i've been told, the track is a classic track but by new standards poor, hospitality facilities etc, the UK needs a new 'Main' track for big events upto modern standards.
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Its the entire package imho, getting in an out of the place is a pain so i've been told, the track is a classic track but by new standards poor, hospitality facilities etc, the UK needs a new 'Main' track for big events upto modern standards.
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I liked silverstone...
Until the last round of 'safety' modifications... Now it's almost as dull as sone of the new circuits.
Facilities for the teams and visitors are terrible.
I'l love to see Britain not get a GP for a couple of years so they can set about re-doing Silverstone from the ground up.
Proper - world class facilities.
We're the best in the world at motorsport - yet our national track is Silverstone - what a joke!
Plus all these circuits getting noise orders slapped on them...Silverstone next?
That won't happen though - we'll keep trekking back and fourth to Silverstone, getting ripped off and come back the next year... "Please sir..can we have some more?"
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Until the last round of 'safety' modifications... Now it's almost as dull as sone of the new circuits.
Facilities for the teams and visitors are terrible.
I'l love to see Britain not get a GP for a couple of years so they can set about re-doing Silverstone from the ground up.
Proper - world class facilities.
We're the best in the world at motorsport - yet our national track is Silverstone - what a joke!
Plus all these circuits getting noise orders slapped on them...Silverstone next?
That won't happen though - we'll keep trekking back and fourth to Silverstone, getting ripped off and come back the next year... "Please sir..can we have some more?"
Simon/~Flibster
Firestar_3x said:£25 a night for camping n all
I really fancied camping Sat > Sun to avoid some of the traffic & too grab a few beers with some other F1 fans that night.
I'm tempted to wear a Bernie Ecclestone style wig & glasses!
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Coco said:I really fancied camping Sat > Sun to avoid some of the traffic & too grab a few beers with some other F1 fans that night.
I'm tempted to wear a Bernie Ecclestone style wig & glasses!
Chants -> Camp Camp Camp Camp!
It will be a good laugh, just look out for the blue tent + Black 3 door Focus / Convertable new shaped blue beetle (Clio aint comming with, its sick + needs a service in 300 miles), just got myself a protable generator jobbo waiting for it to turn up at work this morning, gonna use it for the Laptop / DSLR / Music / Lights
Not that our tent is going to be loud or anything.............
The Indy fiasco still refuses to die quietly. Charlie Whiting, the FIA technical delegate, has issued a letter to the team principals criticising Michelin for not coming forward with their concerns in accordance with the International Sporting Code. He goes on to suggest that had this been done a solution could have been found to allow all 20 cars to race. He states that he personally had 4 possible options which would not contravene existing rules, require the use of a chicane or the use of the pitlane.
Now the question of course is, why didn't he raise these at the time? One would guess that Max sat on him and told him to shut up.
It seems that the governing body is slowly admitting that there were plenty of options open but clearly they weren't willing to look as though they'd given in to the Michelin teams.
On a semi-related matter, Red Bull seem to be moving towards the GPWC camp by joining the appeal. Where would they stand should the manufacturers decide to break away now rather than in 2008 when RB's Ferrari deal expires? I'm assuming that there would be some compensation due to Ferrari to cover lost income but someone's going to have to give them an engine. They've already talked to BMW but unless Williams go elsewhere I doubt BMW will supply another team. Mercedes? They seem to talk a lot about cheap customer engines yet do very little. Toyota already supply Jordan but no one is sure which camp Jordan / Midland are in, if they go with the FIA then I think that's where Red Bull will jump. Honda are kind of in the Mercedes mould, I would seem them to be likely to look to Jordan or Minardi as customers.
Now the question of course is, why didn't he raise these at the time? One would guess that Max sat on him and told him to shut up.
It seems that the governing body is slowly admitting that there were plenty of options open but clearly they weren't willing to look as though they'd given in to the Michelin teams.
On a semi-related matter, Red Bull seem to be moving towards the GPWC camp by joining the appeal. Where would they stand should the manufacturers decide to break away now rather than in 2008 when RB's Ferrari deal expires? I'm assuming that there would be some compensation due to Ferrari to cover lost income but someone's going to have to give them an engine. They've already talked to BMW but unless Williams go elsewhere I doubt BMW will supply another team. Mercedes? They seem to talk a lot about cheap customer engines yet do very little. Toyota already supply Jordan but no one is sure which camp Jordan / Midland are in, if they go with the FIA then I think that's where Red Bull will jump. Honda are kind of in the Mercedes mould, I would seem them to be likely to look to Jordan or Minardi as customers.
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Coco said:Nice one Mikol!
I'll be heading down with some mates on the Fri/Sat/Sunday from Hinckley!
What time are you going to set sail Saturday?
I really cant wait, weather looks to be decent as well, result!
Just a shame Kimi is 100% no doubt going to win the race!
Not sure yet Coco! Need to find all the info out from Dunc. I'm really looking forward to it. Obviously I would like to be there Sunday, but it's a good compromise. There to see qualifying, then watch the race on TV. I'm happy!
British Grand Prix on ITV1 and ITV2
Live qualifying: Saturday 9 July 1210-1420 (ITV1)
Live race: Sunday 10 July 1200-1505 (ITV1)
Highlights: Sunday 10 July 2340-0040 (ITV1)
Highlights: Tuesday 12 July 0100-0200 (ITV2)
Full race replay: Wednesday 13 July 0050-0330 (ITV1)
Live qualifying: Saturday 9 July 1210-1420 (ITV1)
Live race: Sunday 10 July 1200-1505 (ITV1)
Highlights: Sunday 10 July 2340-0040 (ITV1)
Highlights: Tuesday 12 July 0100-0200 (ITV2)
Full race replay: Wednesday 13 July 0050-0330 (ITV1)
Silverstone used to be a good circuit, but they have been steadily messing it up over the last few years.
The facilities are poor though - from the PA system on parts of the track to the toilets, it's all pretty substandard.
Glad to see Hungaroring and that pathetic joke of a go cart track, err, I mean Magny-Cours scoring poorly on the popularity polls. Whatever happened to good tracks like Zeltweg, Osterreichring, Zandvoort? And someone PLEASE bring back Paul Ricard!
What would people consider viable alternatives to Silverstone? I'm talking basic circuit rather than facilities, as these would no doubt have to be added to whatever circuit was chosen.
The facilities are poor though - from the PA system on parts of the track to the toilets, it's all pretty substandard.
Glad to see Hungaroring and that pathetic joke of a go cart track, err, I mean Magny-Cours scoring poorly on the popularity polls. Whatever happened to good tracks like Zeltweg, Osterreichring, Zandvoort? And someone PLEASE bring back Paul Ricard!
What would people consider viable alternatives to Silverstone? I'm talking basic circuit rather than facilities, as these would no doubt have to be added to whatever circuit was chosen.
I'd love to see a new custom designed track tbh...
Designed by Ex-F1 drivers like Alesi, Prost, Mansezzzzzzzz......
Sorry...dozed off there...
Hakkinen all that lot. Not by Tilke - who knows sod all about how to design a good circuit - Look at his new version of Hockenheim.
None of the other UK circuits are really big enough for F1.
Simon/~Flibster
Designed by Ex-F1 drivers like Alesi, Prost, Mansezzzzzzzz......
Sorry...dozed off there...
Hakkinen all that lot. Not by Tilke - who knows sod all about how to design a good circuit - Look at his new version of Hockenheim.
None of the other UK circuits are really big enough for F1.
Simon/~Flibster
Agreed, the Tilke tracks are full of constant radius 2nd gear corners, great for sponsorship exposure bit useless for racing.
The problem is most of the decent old circuits have been destroyed in some way. The A1-Ring is scheduled to have houses put on it, the Mexico City track still exists but someone's had the foresight to put a baseball stadium on the final Peraltada corner. Zaandvoort I think is still just about in one piece if you hoover the beach off it. The list is almost endless.
It could be interesting to see where the GPWC races, most of the current F1 tracks will probably have contracts which would prevent the GPWC racing there. I think Silverstone have said they'd hold one and Fuji will take one as it's owned by Honda or Toyota, can't remember which. Paul Ricard certainly won't as it's FIA owned.
The problem is most of the decent old circuits have been destroyed in some way. The A1-Ring is scheduled to have houses put on it, the Mexico City track still exists but someone's had the foresight to put a baseball stadium on the final Peraltada corner. Zaandvoort I think is still just about in one piece if you hoover the beach off it. The list is almost endless.
It could be interesting to see where the GPWC races, most of the current F1 tracks will probably have contracts which would prevent the GPWC racing there. I think Silverstone have said they'd hold one and Fuji will take one as it's owned by Honda or Toyota, can't remember which. Paul Ricard certainly won't as it's FIA owned.
am really glad that Spa & Monaco got the thumbs up, they were my two favourite tracks before they were sanitised..
they need to bring back the original Bus-stop chicane at spa and put back the building in the chicane after the tunnel at monaco to start with though
problem with the Tilke circuits is that they're all very similar.. each circuit that you go to should either have historical significance or present a unique and interesting challenge..
add that to manual gearboxes with clutch pedal and gearstick (no padels), no abs, no traction control, slick tyres, v10 or v12 engines, strict rules governing size of wings (i.e. make them a *lot* smaller)..
..and you'd have a respectable race series.. plus you'd keep the costs down 'cos half of the older teams could just pull one of their early 80's cars out of the museum and run that..
they need to bring back the original Bus-stop chicane at spa and put back the building in the chicane after the tunnel at monaco to start with though
problem with the Tilke circuits is that they're all very similar.. each circuit that you go to should either have historical significance or present a unique and interesting challenge..
add that to manual gearboxes with clutch pedal and gearstick (no padels), no abs, no traction control, slick tyres, v10 or v12 engines, strict rules governing size of wings (i.e. make them a *lot* smaller)..
..and you'd have a respectable race series.. plus you'd keep the costs down 'cos half of the older teams could just pull one of their early 80's cars out of the museum and run that..