2005 Canadian Grand Prix

Flibster · 12 Jun 2005 at 19:27

Oh well..

he was doing very well.

Front right brake disk exploded. :eek:

He was extremely lucky that didn't happen at the hairpin.

Flibster · 12 Jun 2005 at 19:28

rpstewart said:
Is that just an engine or full back end? I would have thought that just the box would take longer with all the hydraulic lines etc.

Thats the engine.

That has electronics, fuel, water, oil, hydraulics and then the gearbox etc to be fitted to the rear of it.

Flibster · 12 Jun 2005 at 19:29

//Mike said:
Great timing with the previous comment Flib, you'd make a good commentator

I am the new Murray Walker..

Flibster · 12 Jun 2005 at 19:30

Sato's spun it. Looks like he's stalled

Something has cooked and caused the wheels to lock.

Brakes are on fire though!

Flibster · 12 Jun 2005 at 19:33

It will help him at Indy - not much but any rubber down is better than none.

Flibster · 12 Jun 2005 at 19:34

Raikkonen's tyres look pretty good tbh.

Not bad considering they're on the softies.

Flibster · 12 Jun 2005 at 19:35

Indy is a true power track - it needs a good engine.

Both renaults can change engine though now.

Flibster · 12 Jun 2005 at 19:36

And Raikkonen wins the Canadian Grand Prix!

Well done Raikkonen.

Flibster · 12 Jun 2005 at 19:37

Now - where will Montoya be classified as he was black flagged?

Flibster · 12 Jun 2005 at 19:38

gaaah - no wonder this laptop has been slow slow - the AV decided to do a scan as did MS anti spyware.. :rolleyes:

Flibster · 12 Jun 2005 at 19:40

D'ya know - there's times where I'm glad of the ignore feature.

Flibster · 12 Jun 2005 at 19:43

Not you...Just working on the championship standings..

My brain isn't working - somehow managed to add up 8 and 6 and got 12... :confused:

Flibster · 12 Jun 2005 at 19:48

Type_R said:
Sorry Flibster, but a F1 driver who cannot observe a red light does not deserve to be racing. And Schui came second..not trying to rub it in or anything!

But a driver who deliberately risked other drivers lives by driving into the cars to push them off the track is fine then?

Flibster · 12 Jun 2005 at 19:49

Current Championship Standings.

2005 Drivers Championship.

Code:

[b]Pos	Driver			Nationality	Team			Points[/b]
1 	Fernando Alonso 	Spanish 	Renault 		59
2	Kimi Räikkönen		Finnish		McLaren-Mercedes	37
3	Jarno Trulli		Italian		Toyota			27
4	Nick Heidfeld		German		Williams-BMW		25
5	Michael Schumacher	German		Ferrari			24
6	Mark Webber		Australian	Williams-BMW		22
7 	Rubens Barrichello 	Brazilian 	Ferrari 		21
8	Ralf Schumacher		German		Toyota			20
=10	Giancarlo Fisichella 	Italian		Renault 		17 
=10	David Coulthard 	British 	Red Bull Racing 	17
11	Juan Pablo Montoya	Colombian	McLaren-Mercedes	16
12	Alex Wurz		Austrian	McLaren-Mercedes	6
13	Jacques Villeneuve	Canadian	Sauber-Petronas		5
=15	Pedro De la Rosa	Spanish		McLaren-Mercedes	4
=15	Christian Klien		Austrian	Red Bull Racing		4
16	Felipe Massa		Brazilian	Sauber-Petronas		2
17	Vitatonio Liuzzi	Italian		Red Bull Racing		1

2005 Constructors Championship.

Code:

[b]Pos	Constructor 		Points[/b]
1	Renault			76
2	McLaren-Mercedes	63
=4	Toyota			47
=4	Williams-BMW		47
5	Ferrari			45
6	Red Bull Racing		22
7	Sauber-Petronas		12

Flibster · 12 Jun 2005 at 20:04

Over Clocker said:
No doubt M Schum is a very dirty driver. He's not so bad now but he was a disgrace to himself when he pushed Damon Hill out a a few years back to win the last race.

However, i agree that whan Montoya did today was pretty dangerous, and the punishment did fit the crime imo.

You missed Villeneuve out..

Tried exactly the same thing after making a mistake and broke his suspension and damaged Villeneuves car - Villeneuve nearly had to retire from the damage. True - he was excluded form the championship and given a severe warning.

Plus the numerous drivers who have been trying to overtake that he's pushed onto the grass and then complained at them for being unable to slow down.

Wouldn't be so bad - but he's been doing that since his F3 days.

As for Montoya - yes he broke the rules - it wasn't dangerous *I can't actually see why that rule is there tbh*

Black Flag - not sure thats justified - but then again since when has F1 been a level playing field...

Flibster · 12 Jun 2005 at 20:39

Race Results.

Code:

[b]Pos	No	Driver			Team			Laps	Time		Grid	Points[/b]
1	9	Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes	70	Winner		7	10 
2	1	Michael Schumacher	Ferrari			70	+1.1 secs	2	8 
3	2	Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari			70	+40.4 secs	20	6 
4	12	Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas		70	+55.1 secs	11	5 
5	7	Mark Webber		Williams-BMW		70	+55.7 secs	14	4 
6	17	Ralf Schumacher		Toyota			69	+1 Lap		10	3 
7	14	David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing		69	+1 Lap		12	2 
8	15	Christian Klien		Red Bull Racing		69	+1 Lap		16	1 
9	11	Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas		69	+1 Lap		8	 
10	18	Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota		67	+3 Lap		18	 
11	21	Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth	67	+3 Lap		15	 
Ret	16	Jarno Trulli		Toyota			62	+8 Lap		9	 
Ret	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes	52	Black flagged	5	
Ret	3	Jenson Button		BAR-Honda		46	Accident	1	 
Ret	8	Nick Heidfeld		Williams-BMW		43	+27 Laps	13	 
Ret	4	Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda		40	+30 Laps	6	 
Ret	20	Patrick Friesacher	Minardi-Cosworth	39	+31 Laps	19	
Ret	5	Fernando Alonso		Renault			38	+32 Laps	3	 
Ret	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault			32	+38 Laps	4	 
Ret	19	Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota		24	+46 Laps	17

Fastest Laps.

Code:

[b]Pos	No	Driver			Team			Lap	Time		Speed		Laptime[/b]
1	9	Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes	23	13:33:17	211.061		1:14.384 
2	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes	24	13:34:29	210.518		1:14.576 
3	5	Fernando Alonso		Renault			38	13:52:30	210.092		1:14.727 
4	1	Michael Schumacher	Ferrari			32	13:45:13	209.697		1:14.868 
5	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault			24	13:34:24	209.635		1:14.890 
6	3	Jenson Button		BAR-Honda		30	13:42:34	208.801		1:15.189 
7	7	Mark Webber		Williams-BMW		23	13:33:55	208.214		1:15.401 
8	2	Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari			46	14:03:49	207.996		1:15.480 
9	8	Nick Heidfeld		Williams-BMW		20	13:29:57	207.249		1:15.752 
10	17	Ralf Schumacher		Toyota			44	14:01:05	207.044		1:15.827 
11	16	Jarno Trulli		Toyota			43	13:59:36	206.922		1:15.872 
12	11	Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas		26	13:38:30	206.723		1:15.945 
13	12	Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas		18	13:27:23	206.551		1:16.008 
14	4	Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda		14	13:22:14	206.454		1:16.044 
15	15	Christian Klien		Red Bull Racing		46	14:04:19	205.764		1:16.299 
16	14	David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing		17	13:26:16	205.454		1:16.414 
17	19	Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota		20	13:30:45	203.851		1:17.015 
18	18	Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota		19	13:29:23	202.984		1:17.344 
19	21	Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth	15	13:24:07	200.091		1:18.462 
20	20	Patrick Friesacher	Minardi-Cosworth	33	13:49:08	199.463		1:18.709

Pit Stops

Code:

[b]Stop	No	Driver			Team			Lap	Time of day	Time		Total time[/b]
1	11	Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas		2	13:06:48	43.456		43.456 
1	1	Michael Schumache	Ferrari			12	13:19:27	25.973		25.973 
1	3	Jenson Button		BAR-Honda		15	13:23:08	24.562		24.562 
1	17	Ralf Schumacher		Toyota			15	13:23:30	27.734		27.734 
1	4	Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda		16	13:24:40	24.961		24.961 
1	21	Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth	16	13:25:20	26.530		26.530 
1	20	Patrick Friesacher	Minardi-Cosworth	17	13:27:09	26.293		26.293 
1	14	David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing		18	13:27:27	28.150		28.150 
1	18	Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota		20	13:30:38	24.473		24.473 
1	12	Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas		21	13:31:06	28.190		28.190 
1	8	Nick Heidfeld		Williams-BMW		21	13:31:07	28.363		28.363 
1	15	Christian Klien		Red Bull Racing		21	13:31:27	27.447		27.447 
2	4	Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda		22	13:32:39	30:51.763	31:16.724 
1	19	Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota		22	13:33:17	24.467		24.467 
1	16	Jarno Trulli		Toyota			23	13:33:32	27.504		27.504 
1	5	Fernando Alonso		Renault			24	13:34:21	30.026		30.026 
1	9	Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes	24	13:34:27	28.238		28.238 
1	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault			25	13:35:34	27.234		27.234 
1	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes	25	13:35:39	27.691		27.691 
2	11	Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas		27	13:39:42	27.330		1:10.786 
1	7	Mark Webber		Williams-BMW		28	13:40:09	26.295		26.295 
1	2	Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari			31	13:44:11	26.340		26.340 
2	21	Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth	32	13:46:54	26.785		53.315 
2	3	Jenson Button		BAR-Honda		34	13:47:31	25.510		50.072 
2	1	Michael Schumacher	Ferrari			34	13:47:37	25.279		51.252 
2	20	Patrick Friesacher	Minardi-Cosworth	35	13:51:43	26.468		52.761 
2	18	Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota		36	13:51:57	24.527		49.000 
2	17	Ralf Schumacher		Toyota			45	14:02:16	25.928		53.662 
2	2	Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari			47	14:04:59	27.291		53.631 
2	9	Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes	48	14:05:10	28.805		57.043 
2	14	David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing		47	14:05:13	25.866		54.016 
3	18	Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota		46	14:05:27	25.602		1:14.602 
2	15	Christian Klien		Red Bull Racing		47	14:05:31	26.383		53.830 
3	1	Michael Schumacher	Ferrari			48	14:05:38	23.405		1:14.657 
3	11	Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas		47	14:05:53	24.406		1:35.192 
3	21	Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth	46	14:05:58	27.083		1:20.398 
2	16	Jarno Trulli		Toyota			48	14:05:58	24.726		52.230 
2	12	Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas		48	14:06:09	25.701		53.891 
2	7	Mark Webber		Williams-BMW		48	14:06:09	23.996		50.291 
2	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes	49	14:07:25	24.732		52.423

Flibster · 12 Jun 2005 at 23:02

IPBA said:
Flibster I admire the job you do here but I do not like the way you show some level of hatered towards Ferrari or Shumi

I personally like ferrari and like to see them win but to call Schumacher a dangerous driver and continue to give stick like you do every race weekend is a bit pathetic.

Does anybody remember the days when Senna ran into prost at the first corner of the last race to secure the championship and vice versa.

Remeber when everyone used to label Eddie Irvine as unsafe and also don't forget Massa who in his early F1 years was a bit of a lunatic.

Every driver has his good & bad points but to single out one driver and continue to badger him is sad.

Fine - Ignore is in the User CP.

My dislike *I wouldnt say hatred...I have a hatred for Jean Toad and Max and Bernie though* comes purely from personal experience of working with him as well as having seen a lot of his moves after'effects in the pit lane afterwards.

As well as talking to other drivers about him *past and current drivers*

Thing is...Opinions are like bungholes...Everyone has one - no-one really wants to hear it..

Senna and Prost physically hated each other and Senna would only refer to the Prost as 'him' or 'the frenchman'

Once Prost retired he felt bad about it and was going to make it up with Senna - but he died and Prost one one of the few drivers who turned up at his funeral - better than that - he carried the coffin and gave Senna's family his crash helmet.

Irvine was never unsafe - he was initially overconfident and as such a liability. After a half dozen accidents he calmed down a lot and started to learn how to drive the car.

Massa was unsafe - but spending 3(?) years as a test driver made him better.

Flibster · 13 Jun 2005 at 09:47

Arc said:
I agree with that.

Its a shame its gotten this way in here but its almost as bad as the ITV commentary teams hatred of Schuey and Ferrari (although how much of their hatred is down to pure hatred or a misguided sense of patriotism I dont know). /Ignore on....

Clicky clicky...

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/profile.php?do=addlist&userlist=ignore&u=247

Flibster · 14 Jun 2005 at 01:02

Heard a rumour from a Friend at the FIA they Montoya may be asked to make an appearance....

Could it be time for Montoya to bend over and prepare for Max's shaft? Hope not. I can see Montoya going back to Cart if that happens.

Hopefully it is only a rumour though.

Simon/~Flibster

Flibster · 14 Jun 2005 at 20:18

Arc said:
Sorry what was that, I'm ignoring you .

Good good.

There's a famous phrase about doors and arses but I can't seem to bring it to mind at the moment.