2005 Chinese Grand Prix

Flibster · 15 Oct 2005 at 12:14

TheDome said:
I hope your right. either that or that clio engine has been really cranked up.

It has been - this is a new revision E engine.

They had some high performance components that would last 700km but not the 1400km that was required for a 2 race rule - however - last race - only has to last 700km.

They've bolted them in and have turned up the wick.

Simon/~Flibster

Flibster · 15 Oct 2005 at 23:23

Here we go...

Flibster · 15 Oct 2005 at 23:26

2 mins in - already slating the piece of rectum...

Flibster · 15 Oct 2005 at 23:32

2005 Chinese Grand Prix QUalifying session

Running Order

Code:

[b]Driver			Team[/b]
Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda
Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes
Jarno Trulli		Toyota
Antonio Pizzonia	Williams-BMW
Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth
Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota
Robert Doornbos		Minardi-Cosworth
Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota
Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas
Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari
Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas
Christian Klien		Red Bull Racing
Ralf Schumacher		Toyota
Michael Schumacher	Ferrari
David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing
Jenson Button		BAR-Honda
Mark Webber		Williams-BMW
Fernando Alonso		Renault
Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault
Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes

Flibster · 15 Oct 2005 at 23:42

The entire track is bad - it's a Tilke...

215mph to 50....

Stupid...

Flibster · 15 Oct 2005 at 23:43

He does look like his Dad doesn't he...

Shame I don't think that Nico is good enough...

Flibster · 15 Oct 2005 at 23:47

Yup - at least Matthias Lauda isn't in F1 - he has not impressed me at all - trading on his fathers reputation I think.

Flibster · 15 Oct 2005 at 23:50

2005 Chinese Grand Prix Qualifying session

Running Order

Code:

[b]Driver			Team[/b]
Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda
Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes
Jarno Trulli		Toyota
Antonio Pizzonia	Williams-BMW
Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth
Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota
Robert Doornbos		Minardi-Cosworth
Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota
Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas
Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari
Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas
Christian Klien		Red Bull Racing
Ralf Schumacher		Toyota
Michael Schumacher	Ferrari
David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing
Jenson Button		BAR-Honda
Mark Webber		Williams-BMW
Fernando Alonso		Renault
Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault
Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes

Sato on track

1000bhp for him today.

S1 - 25.785
S2 - 55.329
Laptime - 1:37.083

Code:

[b]Driver			Team			Time[/b]
Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda		1:37.083

Flibster · 15 Oct 2005 at 23:52

2005 Chinese Grand Prix Qualifying session

Running Order

Code:

[b]Driver			Team[/b]
Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda
Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes
Jarno Trulli		Toyota
Antonio Pizzonia	Williams-BMW
Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth
Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota
Robert Doornbos		Minardi-Cosworth
Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota
Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas
Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari
Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas
Christian Klien		Red Bull Racing
Ralf Schumacher		Toyota
Michael Schumacher	Ferrari
David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing
Jenson Button		BAR-Honda
Mark Webber		Williams-BMW
Fernando Alonso		Renault
Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault
Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes

Montoya on track

S1 - 0.484 up
S2 - 1.350 up
Laptime - 1:35.188

Struggling through the first couple of corners - understeering through a few later
Locked up into the haipin

Code:

[b]Driver			Team			Time[/b]
Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes	1:35.188
Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda		1:37.083

Flibster · 15 Oct 2005 at 23:54

2005 Chinese Grand Prix Qualifying session

Running Order

Code:

[b]Driver			Team[/b]
Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda
Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes
Jarno Trulli		Toyota
Antonio Pizzonia	Williams-BMW
Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth
Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota
Robert Doornbos		Minardi-Cosworth
Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota
Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas
Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari
Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas
Christian Klien		Red Bull Racing
Ralf Schumacher		Toyota
Michael Schumacher	Ferrari
David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing
Jenson Button		BAR-Honda
Mark Webber		Williams-BMW
Fernando Alonso		Renault
Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault
Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes

Trulli on track

S1 - 0.317 down
S2 - 0.454 down
Laptime - 1:36.044

He doesn't like the B...
Steering was far too heavy.

TOyota has redone the power steering for him for this race to make him happier though.

Code:

[b]Driver			Team			Time[/b]
Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes	1:35.188
Jarno Trulli		Toyota			1:36.044
Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda		1:37.083

Flibster · 15 Oct 2005 at 23:56

2005 Chinese Grand Prix Qualifying session

Running Order

Code:

[b]Driver			Team[/b]
Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda
Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes
Jarno Trulli		Toyota
Antonio Pizzonia	Williams-BMW
Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth
Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota
Robert Doornbos		Minardi-Cosworth
Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota
Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas
Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari
Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas
Christian Klien		Red Bull Racing
Ralf Schumacher		Toyota
Michael Schumacher	Ferrari
David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing
Jenson Button		BAR-Honda
Mark Webber		Williams-BMW
Fernando Alonso		Renault
Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault
Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes

Pizzonia on track

S1 - 0.316 down
S2 - 0.793 down
Laptime - 1:36.445

Looked ok - I think the car has improved a lot over the year.
Shows what a hard time Webber has had this year though.

Code:

[b]Driver			Team			Time[/b]
Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes	1:35.188
Jarno Trulli		Toyota			1:36.044
Antonio Pizzonia	Williams-BMW		1:36.445
Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda		1:37.083

Flibster · 15 Oct 2005 at 23:59

2005 Chinese Grand Prix Qualifying session

Running Order

Code:

[b]Driver			Team[/b]
Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda
Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes
Jarno Trulli		Toyota
Antonio Pizzonia	Williams-BMW
Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth
Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota
Robert Doornbos		Minardi-Cosworth
Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota
Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas
Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari
Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas
Christian Klien		Red Bull Racing
Ralf Schumacher		Toyota
Michael Schumacher	Ferrari
David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing
Jenson Button		BAR-Honda
Mark Webber		Williams-BMW
Fernando Alonso		Renault
Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault
Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes

Albers on track

S1 - 1.183 down
S2 - 2.860 down
Laptime - 1:39.105

Albers sideways in T1 and T2 - looks horrible

nasty car

Code:

[b]Driver			Team			Time[/b]
Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes	1:35.188
Jarno Trulli		Toyota			1:36.044
Antonio Pizzonia	Williams-BMW		1:36.445
Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda		1:37.083
Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth	1:39.105

Flibster · 16 Oct 2005 at 00:01

2005 Chinese Grand Prix Qualifying session

Running Order

Code:

[b]Driver			Team[/b]
Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda
Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes
Jarno Trulli		Toyota
Antonio Pizzonia	Williams-BMW
Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth
Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota
Robert Doornbos		Minardi-Cosworth
Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota
Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas
Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari
Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas
Christian Klien		Red Bull Racing
Ralf Schumacher		Toyota
Michael Schumacher	Ferrari
David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing
Jenson Button		BAR-Honda
Mark Webber		Williams-BMW
Fernando Alonso		Renault
Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault
Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes

Karthikeyan on track

S1 - 0.380 down
S2 - 0.919 down
Laptime - 1.36.707

Looks ok with Karthikeyan at the wheel - seen it worse

He's having to work hard - but thats a good lap from him.

Code:

[b]Driver			Team			Time[/b]
Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes	1:35.188
Jarno Trulli		Toyota			1:36.044
Antonio Pizzonia	Williams-BMW		1:36.445
Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota		1:36.707
Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda		1:37.083
Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth	1:39.105

Flibster · 16 Oct 2005 at 00:03

2005 Chinese Grand Prix Qualifying session

Running Order

Code:

[b]Driver			Team[/b]
Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda
Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes
Jarno Trulli		Toyota
Antonio Pizzonia	Williams-BMW
Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth
Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota
Robert Doornbos		Minardi-Cosworth
Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota
Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas
Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari
Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas
Christian Klien		Red Bull Racing
Ralf Schumacher		Toyota
Michael Schumacher	Ferrari
David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing
Jenson Button		BAR-Honda
Mark Webber		Williams-BMW
Fernando Alonso		Renault
Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault
Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes

Doornbos on track

S1 - 0.707 down
S2 - 2.314 down
Laptime - 1:39.460

Doesn't look that bad tbh. Looks stable.

Looked fine to me - no idea where he lost the time there.

Code:

[b]Driver			Team			Time[/b]
Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes	1:35.188
Jarno Trulli		Toyota			1:36.044
Antonio Pizzonia	Williams-BMW		1:36.445
Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota		1:36.707
Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda		1:37.083
Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth	1:39.105
Robert Doornbos		Minardi-Cosworth	1:39.460

Flibster · 16 Oct 2005 at 00:05

2005 Chinese Grand Prix Qualifying session

Running Order

Code:

[b]Driver			Team[/b]
Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda
Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes
Jarno Trulli		Toyota
Antonio Pizzonia	Williams-BMW
Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth
Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota
Robert Doornbos		Minardi-Cosworth
Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota
Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas
Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari
Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas
Christian Klien		Red Bull Racing
Ralf Schumacher		Toyota
Michael Schumacher	Ferrari
David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing
Jenson Button		BAR-Honda
Mark Webber		Williams-BMW
Fernando Alonso		Renault
Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault
Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes

Monteiro on track

S1 - 0.808 down
S2 - 2.787 down
Laptime - 1:39.233

Massive amounts of understeer - hasn't hit a single apex

How I would hate that car - I'd switch off the TC and get power oversteer just to try and get it into the corner a bit.

Code:

[b]Driver			Team			Time[/b]
Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes	1:35.188
Jarno Trulli		Toyota			1:36.044
Antonio Pizzonia	Williams-BMW		1:36.445
Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota		1:36.707
Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda		1:37.083
Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth	1:39.105
Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota		1:39.233
Robert Doornbos		Minardi-Cosworth	1:39.460

Flibster · 16 Oct 2005 at 00:07

2005 Chinese Grand Prix Qualifying session

Running Order

Code:

[b]Driver			Team[/b]
Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda
Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes
Jarno Trulli		Toyota
Antonio Pizzonia	Williams-BMW
Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth
Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota
Robert Doornbos		Minardi-Cosworth
Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota
Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas
Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari
Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas
Christian Klien		Red Bull Racing
Ralf Schumacher		Toyota
Michael Schumacher	Ferrari
David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing
Jenson Button		BAR-Honda
Mark Webber		Williams-BMW
Fernando Alonso		Renault
Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault
Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes

Villeneuve on track

S1 - 0.399 down
S2 - 1.205 down
Laptime - 1:36.788

Track looks extremely bumpy there as well.

Not impressive from Villeneuve. Locks up a little at the hairpin.

Code:

[b]Driver			Team			Time[/b]
Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes	1:35.188
Jarno Trulli		Toyota			1:36.044
Antonio Pizzonia	Williams-BMW		1:36.445
Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota		1:36.707
Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas		1:36.788
Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda		1:37.083
Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth	1:39.105
Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota		1:39.233
Robert Doornbos		Minardi-Cosworth	1:39.460

Flibster · 16 Oct 2005 at 00:08

"Already done his slow lap" Nice one Martin.

Flibster · 16 Oct 2005 at 00:10

2005 Chinese Grand Prix Qualifying session

Running Order

Code:

[b]Driver			Team[/b]
Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda
Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes
Jarno Trulli		Toyota
Antonio Pizzonia	Williams-BMW
Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth
Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota
Robert Doornbos		Minardi-Cosworth
Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota
Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas
Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari
Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas
Christian Klien		Red Bull Racing
Ralf Schumacher		Toyota
Michael Schumacher	Ferrari
David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing
Jenson Button		BAR-Honda
Mark Webber		Williams-BMW
Fernando Alonso		Renault
Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault
Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes

Barrichello on track

S1 - 0.292 down
S2 - 0.473 down
Laptime - 1:35.610

Nice lap from Rubens. Nothing obvious to say.

Code:

[b]Driver			Team			Time[/b]
Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes	1:35.188
Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari			1:35.610
Jarno Trulli		Toyota			1:36.044
Antonio Pizzonia	Williams-BMW		1:36.445
Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota		1:36.707
Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas		1:36.788
Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda		1:37.083
Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth	1:39.105
Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota		1:39.233
Robert Doornbos		Minardi-Cosworth	1:39.460

Flibster · 16 Oct 2005 at 00:10

Aaaand crap adverts...

Flibster · 16 Oct 2005 at 00:12

DragonHunter said:
dont know how many of you are watching the qualifying, buy those that are, have you noticed that some of the camera shots look like they've been sped up?

maybe its just me.

It's fine as far as I can tell.

Simon/~Flibster