2005 French Grand Prix

Flibster · 3 Jul 2005 at 14:14

What do you reckon? Another bucket of water down the back of Webbers seat?

Flibster · 3 Jul 2005 at 14:15

Barrichello pits on lap 56 - splash and dash...
Raikkonen pits on lap 56 as well.

Flibster · 3 Jul 2005 at 14:18

Karthikeyan pits on lap 57
Sato pits on lap 58

Flibster · 3 Jul 2005 at 14:18

Alonso pits on lap 59 - we have a race...

Flibster · 3 Jul 2005 at 14:20

Heidfelt pits for number 6...lap 59

Fisichella pits on lap 59
Fisichella stalls in the pits!

Flibster · 3 Jul 2005 at 14:21

Coulthard pits on lap 60

Alonso now only 18 seconds ahead of Raikkonen

Flibster · 3 Jul 2005 at 14:22

M.Schumacher lost 4 seconds on that lap on the leaders..

Flibster · 3 Jul 2005 at 14:23

M.Schumacher lost 1.5 seconds that lap...

Flibster · 3 Jul 2005 at 14:25

M.Schumacher is still 2 seconds a lap slower than the leaders though...

But losing over 1 second a lap to Alonso over the race distance is not good.

Button only making .5s a lap on him sadly.

Flibster · 3 Jul 2005 at 14:27

Mclaren guy shuffling out of the camera shot of the garage - wave you miserable buggers.

Flibster · 3 Jul 2005 at 14:28

I want to see the condition of the bridgestones..I suspect they are on the tatty side.

Raikkonen and Alonso are holding at about 17 seconds apart

Flibster · 3 Jul 2005 at 14:30

The McLaren is the class car at the moment.

I think that Raikkonen would have easily been way in the lead if he could qualify 3rd on 30% more fuel than anyone else...

Flibster · 3 Jul 2005 at 14:33

Raikkonen is now doing laps in the 1:16's - why?

Just trying to putting in the fastest lap?

Flibster · 3 Jul 2005 at 14:34

Raikkonen is driver of the day for me - Alonso is a close second though...

Alonso crosses the line.

Well done Alonso...Renault win in France.

Flibster · 3 Jul 2005 at 14:40

Code:

[b]Pos	Driver		Team[/b]
1	Alonso		Renault
2	Raikkonen	McLaren
3	M.Schumacher	Ferrari
4	Button		BAR
5	Trulli		Toyota
6	Fisichella	Renault
7	R.Schumacher	Toyota
8	Villeneuve	Sauber
9	Barrichello	Farrari
10	Coulthard	Red Bull
11	Sato		BAR
12	Webber		Williams
13	Montiero	Jordan
14	Heidfeld	Williams
15	Karthikeyan	Jordan
16	Montoya		McLaren		Retired - Hydraulics
17	Albers		Minardi		Retired - Tyre Failure
18	Friesacher	Minardi		Retired - Tyre Failure
19	Massa		Sauber		Retired - Hydraulics
20	Klien		Red Bull		Retired - Fuel Pressure

Flibster · 3 Jul 2005 at 14:48

Think this is right...

Current Championship Standings.

2005 Drivers Championship.

Code:

[b]Pos	Driver			Nationality	Team			Points[/b]
1 	Fernando Alonso		Spanish		Renault			69 
2 	Kimi Räikkönen		Finnish		McLaren-Mercedes	45 
3 	Michael Schumacher	German		Ferrari			40 
4 	Jarno Trulli		Italian		Toyota			31 
5 	Rubens Barrichello	Brazilian	Ferrari			29 
6 	Nick Heidfeld		German		Williams-BMW		25 
=8 	Mark Webber		Australian	Williams-BMW		22 
=8	Ralf Schumacher		German		Toyota			22 
9 	Giancarlo Fisichella	Italian		Renault			20 
10	David Coulthard		British		Red Bull Racing		17 
11 	Juan Pablo Montoya	Colombian	McLaren-Mercedes	16 
12 	Felipe Massa		Brazilian	Sauber-Petronas		7 
=15 	Tiago Monteiro		Portuguese	Jordan-Toyota		6 
=15 	Alexander Wurz		Austrian	McLaren-Mercedes	6 
=15 	Jacques Villeneuve	Canadian	Sauber-Petronas		6 
=17 	Narain Karthikeyan	Indian		Jordan-Toyota		5 
=17	Jenson Button		British		BAR-Honda		5
=20 	Christijan Albers	Dutch		Minardi-Cosworth	4 
=20 	Pedro de la Rosa	Spanish		McLaren-Mercedes	4 
=20 	Christian Klien		Austrian	Red Bull Racing		4 
21 	Patrick Friesacher	Austrian	Minardi-Cosworth	3 
22 	Vitantonio Liuzzi	Italian		Red Bull Racing		1

2005 Constructors Championship.

Code:

[b]Pos	Constructor 		Points[/b]
1	Renault			86
2	McLaren-Mercedes	71
3	Ferrari			69
5	Toyota			53
5	Williams-BMW		47
6	Red Bull Racing		22
7	Sauber-Petronas		13
8	Jordan-Toyota		11
9	Minardi-Cosworth	7
10	BAR-Honda		5

Flibster · 3 Jul 2005 at 15:27

Race Results.

Code:

[b]Pos	No	Driver			Team			Laps	Time		Grid	Points[/b]
1	5	Fernando Alonso		Renault			70	Winner		1	10
2	9	Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes	70	+11.8 secs	13	8
3	1	Michael Schumacher	Ferrari			70	+81.9 secs	3	6
4	3	Jenson Button		BAR-Honda		69	+1 Lap		7	5
5	16	Jarno Trulli		Toyota			69	+1 Lap		2	4
6	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault			69	+1 Lap		6	3
7	17	Ralf Schumacher		Toyota			69	+1 Lap		11	2
8	11	Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas		69	+1 Lap		1	1
9	2	Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari			69	+1 Lap		5
10	14	David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing		69	+1 Lap		15
11	4	Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda		69	+1 Lap		4
12	7	Mark Webber		Williams-BMW		68	+2 Lap		12
13	18	Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota		67	+3 Lap		19
14	8	Nick Heidfeld		Williams-BMW		66	+4 Lap		14
15	19	Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota		66	+4 Lap		17
Ret	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes	46	+24 Laps	8	
Ret	21	Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth	37	+33 Laps	20	
Ret	20	Patrick Friesacher	Minardi-Cosworth	33	+37 Laps	18	
Ret	12	Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas		30	+40 Laps	9	
Ret	15	Christian Klien		Red Bull Racing		1	+69 Laps	16

Fastest Laps.

Code:

[b]Pos	No	Driver			Team			Lap	Time		Speed		Laptime[/b]
1	9	Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes	25	14:35:45	207.785		1:16.423 
2	5	Fernando Alonso		Renault			5	14:09:35	207.571		1:16.502 
3	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes	24	14:34:26	207.154		1:16.656 
4	3	Jenson Button		BAR-Honda		18	14:26:44	205.141		1:17.408 
5	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault			18	14:26:41	204.868		1:17.511 
6	14	David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing		39	14:55:04	204.605		1:17.611 
7	1	Michael Schumacher	Ferrari			22	14:32:10	204.333		1:17.714 
8	16	Jarno Trulli		Toyota			67	15:32:01	204.128		1:17.792 
9	12	Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas		11	14:17:40	204.094		1:17.805 
10	11	Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas		17	14:25:33	204.000		1:17.841 
11	4	Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda		8	14:13:40	203.770		1:17.929 
12	2	Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari			4	14:08:26	203.689		1:17.960 
13	8	Nick Heidfeld		Williams-BMW		36	14:51:10	203.318		1:18.102 
14	17	Ralf Schumacher		Toyota			36	14:51:00	203.316		1:18.103 
15	7	Mark Webber		Williams-BMW		17	14:25:43	202.558		1:18.395 
16	18	Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota		32	14:46:50	198.485		1:20.004 
17	19	Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota		9	14:15:24	198.108		1:20.156 
18	21	Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth	8	14:14:08	195.858		1:21.077 
9	20	Patrick Friesacher	Minardi-Cosworth	4	14:08:47	194.958		1:21.451

Pit Stops

Code:

[b]Stop	No	Driver			Time			Lap	Time of day	Time		Total time[/b]
1	20	Patrick Friesacher	Minardi-Cosworth	13	14:21:02	42.014		42.014 
1	4	Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda		15	14:22:47	20.616		20.616 
1	12	Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas		15	14:22:52	21.548		21.548 
1	17	Ralf Schumacher		Toyota			15	14:22:59	23.615		23.615 
1	18	Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota		15	14:23:34	20.773		20.773 
1	19	Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota		16	14:24:50	21.511		21.511 
1	21	Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth	16	14:25:06	25.821		25.821 
1	2	Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari			17	14:25:22	21.305		21.305 
1	16	Jarno Trulli		Toyota			18	14:26:39	22.510		22.510 
1	1	Michael Schumacher	Ferrari			18	14:26:40	19.863		19.863 
1	8	Nick Heidfeld		Williams-BMW		18	14:27:05	20.240		20.240 
1	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault			19	14:27:58	27.230		27.230 
1	3	Jenson Button		BAR-Honda		19	14:28:01	23.021		23.021 
1	11	Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas		19	14:28:09	24.237		24.237 
1	7	Mark Webber		Williams-BMW		19	14:28:21	21.366		21.366 
1	5	Fernando Alonso		Renault			20	14:28:46	21.305		21.305 
1	14	David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing		21	14:31:03	21.182		21.182 
1	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes	25	14:35:42	23.369		23.369 
1	9	Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes	28	14:39:35	22.745		22.745 
2	12	Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas		28	14:40:50	7:09.183	7:30.731 
2	7	Mark Webber		Williams-BMW		30	14:43:17	22.879		44.245 
2	20	Patrick Friesacher	Minardi-Cosworth	30	14:45:16	22.368		1:04.382 
2	1	Michael Schumacher	Ferrari			34	14:47:49	19.631		39.494 
2	18	Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota		33	14:48:12	20.624		41.397 
2	4	Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda		34	14:48:14	21.742		42.358 
2	21	Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth	33	14:48:55	21.612		47.433 
2	19	Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota		35	14:51:21	21.140		42.651 
2	8	Nick Heidfeld		Williams-BMW		37	14:52:27	20.308		40.548 
2	2	Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari			39	14:54:45	19.935		41.240 
2	5	Fernando Alonso		Renault			41	14:56:14	21.242		42.547 
2	14	David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing		42	14:59:01	20.244		41.426 
2	17	Ralf Schumacher		Toyota			43	15:00:09	22.884		46.499 
2	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault			44	15:01:19	19.038		46.268 
2	16	Jarno Trulli		Toyota			45	15:02:36	21.707		44.217 
2	3	Jenson Button		BAR-Honda		46	15:03:55	21.636		44.657 
3	8	Nick Heidfeld		Williams-BMW		47	15:06:11	26.734		1:07.282 
2	11	Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas		48	15:06:41	22.093		46.330 
4	8	Nick Heidfeld		Williams-BMW		48	15:08:05	35.143		1:42.425 
3	1	Michael Schumacher	Ferrari			51	15:10:21	20.452		59.946 
3	7	Mark Webber		Williams-BMW		52	15:12:50	21.232		1:05.477 
3	18	Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota		51	15:13:06	20.101		1:01.498 
5	8	Nick Heidfeld		Williams-BMW		51	15:13:18	11.706		1:54.131 
3	2	Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari			54	15:14:56	19.318		1:00.558 
2	9	Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes	55	15:14:56	19.492		42.237 
3	19	Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota		53	15:16:49	19.894		1:02.545 
3	4	Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda		56	15:17:59	19.142		1:01.500 
3	5	Fernando Alonso		Renault			58	15:18:35	18.987		1:01.534 
6	8	Nick Heidfeld		Williams-BMW		55	15:19:32	21.142		2:15.273 
3	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault			58	15:19:52	32.401		1:18.669 
3	14	David Coulthard	R	ed Bull Racing		58	15:20:30	19.342		1:00.768

Flibster · 5 Jul 2005 at 09:27

Revision to the 2008 rules submission..

Just seems to be that Carbon Fibre suspension will be banned and also a clarification in the fuel tank area - tanks must be totally empty when being scruiteneered at the end of the race.

Hmmmm....One for BAR there then?

Will do the Silverstone thread later...

Simon/~Flibster

Flibster · 5 Jul 2005 at 09:59

To stop accidents like Raikkonen's I suppose...

The fuel tank rule is due to BAR..

Simon/~Flibster

Flibster · 5 Jul 2005 at 11:00

Dutch Guy said:
Well, isn't carbon fibre tougher than steel

In the correct direction of force yes - not in the correct direction - no.

Plus steel bends before breaking - carbon fibre snape/shatters with nearly no warning.

I suspect thats the main reason not the price as steel/aluminium alloys won't cost that much less than Carbon Fibre components in relative terms.

But their lifespan could be considerably higher..

Simon/~Flibster