Man of Honour
You know, people are generally pretty quick to take a swipe at our 'Nige, but I usually find myself agreeing with him.
F1 is getting to be a joke.
F1 is getting to be a joke.
TheDome said:It shouldnt have gone any other way.
Max is a clown
[b]Pos No Driver Team Time[/b]
1 9 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 1:15.684
2 10 Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes 1:15.753
3 5 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:16.477
4 15 Christian Klien Red Bull Racing 1:16.698
5 12 Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas 1:16.799
6 14 David Coulthard Red Bull Racing 1:16.926
7 7 Mark Webber Williams-BMW 1:16.961
8 16 Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:17.053
9 6 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 1:17.061
10 4 Takuma Sato BAR-Honda 1:17.331
11 3 Jenson Button BAR-Honda 1:17.397
12 11 Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas 1:17.408
13 8 Nick Heidfeld Williams-BMW 1:17.536
14 2 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 1:17.599
15 1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1:17.617
16 19 Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota 1:18.102
17 21 Christijan Albers Minardi-Cosworth 1:18.217
18 17 Ralf Schumacher Toyota 1:18.229
19 20 Robert Doornbos Minardi-Cosworth 1:19.083
20 18 Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota 1:19.103
[b]Sector 1[/b]
[b]Pos No Driver Time[/b]
1 10 Juan Pablo Montoya 16.540
2 9 Kimi Räikkönen 16.604
3 5 Fernando Alonso 16.693
4 12 Felipe Massa 16.722
5 11 Jacques Villeneuve 16.726
6 14 David Coulthard 16.762
7 3 Jenson Button 16.804
8 6 Giancarlo Fisichella 16.807
9 15 Christian Klien 16.849
10 8 Nick Heidfeld 16.895
11 4 Takuma Sato 16.918
12 7 Mark Webber 16.938
13 16 Jarno Trulli 16.969
14 1 Michael Schumacher 16.980
15 21 Christijan Albers 17.053
16 2 Rubens Barrichello 17.072
17 19 Narain Karthikeyan 17.075
18 17 Ralf Schumacher 17.092
19 20 Robert Doornbos 17.311
20 18 Tiago Monteiro 17.348
[b]Sector 2 [/b]
[b]Pos No Driver Time[/b]
1 9 Kimi Räikkönen 35.538
2 5 Fernando Alonso 35.541
3 10 Juan Pablo Montoya 35.592
4 16 Jarno Trulli 35.882
5 15 Christian Klien 35.948
6 8 Nick Heidfeld 36.148
7 11 Jacques Villeneuve 36.163
8 7 Mark Webber 36.171
9 17 Ralf Schumacher 36.186
10 12 Felipe Massa 36.197
11 6 Giancarlo Fisichella 36.232
12 14 David Coulthard 36.239
13 3 Jenson Button 36.337
14 2 Rubens Barrichello 36.368
15 19 Narain Karthikeyan 36.375
16 1 Michael Schumacher 36.446
17 21 Christijan Albers 36.497
18 4 Takuma Sato 36.507
19 20 Robert Doornbos 36.804
20 18 Tiago Monteiro 36.904
[b]Sector 3 [/b]
[b]Pos No Driver Time[/b]
1 5 Fernando Alonso 23.367
2 9 Kimi Räikkönen 23.430
3 10 Juan Pablo Montoya 23.456
4 14 David Coulthard 23.736
5 12 Felipe Massa 23.781
6 7 Mark Webber 23.801
7 6 Giancarlo Fisichella 23.827
8 15 Christian Klien 23.901
9 4 Takuma Sato 23.906
10 11 Jacques Villeneuve 23.968
11 1 Michael Schumacher 23.985
12 16 Jarno Trulli 24.074
13 3 Jenson Button 24.081
14 8 Nick Heidfeld 24.109
15 2 Rubens Barrichello 24.113
16 17 Ralf Schumacher 24.386
17 19 Narain Karthikeyan 24.457
18 21 Christijan Albers 24.614
19 20 Robert Doornbos 24.665
20 18 Tiago Monteiro 24.674
[b]Pos No Driver Time Speed[/b]
1 5 Fernando Alonso 9:44:32 327.1
2 6 Giancarlo Fisichella 9:44:35 326.3
3 16 Jarno Trulli 9:37:16 325.7
4 10 Juan Pablo Montoya 9:35:07 323.5
5 17 Ralf Schumacher 9:39:10 323.4
6 9 Kimi Räikkönen 9:44:04 323.1
7 12 Felipe Massa 9:42:14 321.8
8 3 Jenson Button 9:40:35 320.8
9 21 Christijan Albers 9:42:52 319.5
10 4 Takuma Sato 9:38:02 319.3
11 18 Tiago Monteiro 9:36:24 318.9
12 14 David Coulthard 9:38:27 318.7
13 11 Jacques Villeneuve 9:27:23 318.5
14 19 Narain Karthikeyan 9:43:56 318.2
15 8 Nick Heidfeld 9:37:51 318.1
16 20 Robert Doornbos 9:39:46 317.5
17 1 Michael Schumacher 9:42:31 314.9
18 7 Mark Webber 9:42:11 314.6
19 15 Christian Klien 9:38:16 313.9
20 2 Rubens Barrichello 9:38:55 313.7
[b]Pos No Driver Team Time[/b]
1 9 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 1:14.128
2 10 Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes 1:14.449
3 5 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:14.758
4 6 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 1:14.958
5 3 Jenson Button BAR-Honda 1:15.072
6 7 Mark Webber Williams-BMW 1:15.111
7 1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1:15.253
8 8 Nick Heidfeld Williams-BMW 1:15.255
9 15 Christian Klien Red Bull Racing 1:15.388
10 16 Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:15.417
11 14 David Coulthard Red Bull Racing 1:15.491
12 17 Ralf Schumacher Toyota 1:15.585
13 4 Takuma Sato BAR-Honda 1:15.699
14 12 Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas 1:15.781
15 11 Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas 1:16.037
16 2 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 1:16.072
17 21 Christijan Albers Minardi-Cosworth 1:16.674
18 20 Robert Doornbos Minardi-Cosworth 1:16.912
19 19 Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota 1:17.210
20 18 Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota 1:17.966
[b]Sector 1[/b]
[b]Pos No Driver Time[/b]
1 5 Fernando Alonso 16.255
2 10 Juan Pablo Montoya 16.258
3 9 Kimi Räikkönen 16.289
4 6 Giancarlo Fisichella 16.473
5 3 Jenson Button 16.507
6 7 Mark Webber 16.575
7 14 David Coulthard 16.597
8 12 Felipe Massa 16.602
9 17 Ralf Schumacher 16.610
10 15 Christian Klien 16.619
11 4 Takuma Sato 16.630
12 1 Michael Schumacher 16.653
13 8 Nick Heidfeld 16.669
14 16 Jarno Trulli 16.681
15 2 Rubens Barrichello 16.699
16 11 Jacques Villeneuve 16.723
17 21 Christijan Albers 16.753
18 20 Robert Doornbos 16.869
19 19 Narain Karthikeyan 16.996
20 18 Tiago Monteiro 17.138
[b]Sector 2 [/b]
[b]Pos No Driver Time[/b]
1 9 Kimi Räikkönen 34.718
2 5 Fernando Alonso 35.117
3 16 Jarno Trulli 35.154
4 10 Juan Pablo Montoya 35.197
5 6 Giancarlo Fisichella 35.301
6 3 Jenson Button 35.307
7 8 Nick Heidfeld 35.329
8 14 David Coulthard 35.353
9 17 Ralf Schumacher 35.399
10 15 Christian Klien 35.416
11 7 Mark Webber 35.449
12 1 Michael Schumacher 35.486
13 4 Takuma Sato 35.586
14 11 Jacques Villeneuve 35.654
15 12 Felipe Massa 35.758
16 2 Rubens Barrichello 35.867
17 21 Christijan Albers 35.959
18 19 Narain Karthikeyan 35.995
19 20 Robert Doornbos 36.152
20 18 Tiago Monteiro 36.404
[b]Sector 3 [/b]
[b]Pos No Driver Time[/b]
1 10 Juan Pablo Montoya 22.979
2 9 Kimi Räikkönen 23.025
3 7 Mark Webber 23.087
4 1 Michael Schumacher 23.114
5 5 Fernando Alonso 23.181
6 6 Giancarlo Fisichella 23.184
7 3 Jenson Button 23.192
8 8 Nick Heidfeld 23.257
9 15 Christian Klien 23.353
10 12 Felipe Massa 23.421
11 16 Jarno Trulli 23.425
12 4 Takuma Sato 23.445
13 2 Rubens Barrichello 23.506
14 11 Jacques Villeneuve 23.541
15 14 David Coulthard 23.541
16 17 Ralf Schumacher 23.576
17 20 Robert Doornbos 23.846
18 21 Christijan Albers 23.948
19 19 Narain Karthikeyan 24.071
20 18 Tiago Monteiro 24.172
[b]Pos No Driver Time Speed[/b]
1 16 Jarno Trulli 10:45:57 328.2
2 17 Ralf Schumacher 10:26:29 327.7
3 6 Giancarlo Fisichella 10:43:43 327.7
4 10 Juan Pablo Montoya 10:44:49 326.5
5 9 Kimi Räikkönen 10:43:12 326.2
6 5 Fernando Alonso 10:57:02 325.6
7 3 Jenson Button 10:43:28 324.4
8 4 Takuma Sato 10:28:02 321.5
9 19 Narain Karthikeyan 10:44:13 321.2
10 12 Felipe Massa 10:55:37 321.2
11 1 Michael Schumacher 10:45:29 321.0
12 21 Christijan Albers 10:46:24 321.0
13 15 Christian Klien 10:45:47 320.6
14 7 Mark Webber 10:46:16 320.6
15 14 David Coulthard 10:58:54 319.8
16 11 Jacques Villeneuve 10:57:53 319.7
17 2 Rubens Barrichello 10:31:55 319.0
18 18 Tiago Monteiro 10:43:38 317.9
19 8 Nick Heidfeld 10:44:20 317.5
20 20 Robert Doornbos 10:45:12 317.5
After the shower that came after second practice on Friday there has been much speculation about rain today, but so far conditions are perfect and there is already more sun than we have seen so far this weekend. Our forecast continues to suggest an ambient temperature high of 23 degrees Celsius today, rising to 26 tomorrow when there is still a chance of showers.
The 4.574 km circuit is unchanged. Kimi Raikkonen holds the lap record in 1m 13.780s from last year’s race in which he finished second to Michael Schumacher. The Ferrari driver started from pole position after a lap in 1m 13.305s.
The race will run over 67 laps (306.458 km) and will start at 1400 hrs local time which is two hours ahead of GMT.
'GPWC' rules not ready - 23 July 2005
The group once called 'GPWC' may not, as had been expected, release its 2008 rules at Hockenheim.
BMW's Mario Theissen said the 'framework' would be given to the governing FIA for review 'soon.'
'We will talk about it here,' the German said at the circuit, 'but I don't know if we are ready to disclose. But it is coming.'
Minardi boss Paul Stoddart, an integral part of the team and manufacturer alliance, said the cluster would be ready to unveil the working groups' toil 'in the coming weeks.
'I hope this is the beginning of a united Formula One,' he added.
And, while money might be a source of contention, McLaren's Ron Dennis reckons the 'regulatory' or 'sporting' aspect of F1 post-2008 will be settled rather easily.
'The subjects that we need to come to a common opinion on,' he quipped, 'are ... less than 25 per cent of the whole.'
Ron said the teams and carmakers should have a say in the rules because they bear the 'financial consequences.
'I don't think it's unreasonable,' the Englishman added, 'that we should be part of the process.'
Renault boss Flavio Briatore, meanwhile, urged Ferrari to come to the negotiating table.
'All the time we forget Ferrari,' said the Italian, 'but Ferrari is important to F1.'
[b]Driver Team Time[/b]
[b]Driver Team[/b]
Robert Doornbos Minardi-Cosworth
Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota
Christijan Albers Minardi-Cosworth
Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota
Takuma Sato BAR-Honda
Christian Klien Red Bull Racing
Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas
David Coulthard Red Bull Racing
Nick Heidfeld Williams-BMW
Mark Webber Williams-BMW
Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas
Jarno Trulli Toyota
Ralf Schumacher Toyota
Rubens Barrichello Ferrari
Michael Schumacher Ferrari
Jenson Button BAR-Honda
Giancarlo Fisichella Renault
Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes
Fernando Alonso Renault
Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes
[b]Driver Team Time[/b]
[b]Driver Team[/b]
Robert Doornbos Minardi-Cosworth
Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota
Christijan Albers Minardi-Cosworth
Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota
Takuma Sato BAR-Honda
Christian Klien Red Bull Racing
Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas
David Coulthard Red Bull Racing
Nick Heidfeld Williams-BMW
Mark Webber Williams-BMW
Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas
Jarno Trulli Toyota
Ralf Schumacher Toyota
Rubens Barrichello Ferrari
Michael Schumacher Ferrari
Jenson Button BAR-Honda
Giancarlo Fisichella Renault
Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes
Fernando Alonso Renault
Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes
[b]Driver Team Time[/b]
Robert Doornbos Minardi-Cosworth 1:18.313
[b]Driver Team[/b]
Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota
Christijan Albers Minardi-Cosworth
Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota
Takuma Sato BAR-Honda
Christian Klien Red Bull Racing
Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas
David Coulthard Red Bull Racing
Nick Heidfeld Williams-BMW
Mark Webber Williams-BMW
Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas
Jarno Trulli Toyota
Ralf Schumacher Toyota
Rubens Barrichello Ferrari
Michael Schumacher Ferrari
Jenson Button BAR-Honda
Giancarlo Fisichella Renault
Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes
Fernando Alonso Renault
Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes
[b]Driver Team Time[/b]
Robert Doornbos Minardi-Cosworth 1:18.313
Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota No Time
[b]Driver Team[/b]
Christijan Albers Minardi-Cosworth
Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota
Takuma Sato BAR-Honda
Christian Klien Red Bull Racing
Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas
David Coulthard Red Bull Racing
Nick Heidfeld Williams-BMW
Mark Webber Williams-BMW
Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas
Jarno Trulli Toyota
Ralf Schumacher Toyota
Rubens Barrichello Ferrari
Michael Schumacher Ferrari
Jenson Button BAR-Honda
Giancarlo Fisichella Renault
Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes
Fernando Alonso Renault
Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes
[b]Driver Team Time[/b]
Christijan Albers Minardi-Cosworth 1:17.519
Robert Doornbos Minardi-Cosworth 1:18.313
Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota No Time
[b]Driver Team[/b]
Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota
Takuma Sato BAR-Honda
Christian Klien Red Bull Racing
Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas
David Coulthard Red Bull Racing
Nick Heidfeld Williams-BMW
Mark Webber Williams-BMW
Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas
Jarno Trulli Toyota
Ralf Schumacher Toyota
Rubens Barrichello Ferrari
Michael Schumacher Ferrari
Jenson Button BAR-Honda
Giancarlo Fisichella Renault
Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes
Fernando Alonso Renault
Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes
[b]Driver Team Time[/b]
Christijan Albers Minardi-Cosworth 1:17.519
Robert Doornbos Minardi-Cosworth 1:18.313
Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota 1:18.599
Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota No Time
[b]Driver Team[/b]
Takuma Sato BAR-Honda
Christian Klien Red Bull Racing
Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas
David Coulthard Red Bull Racing
Nick Heidfeld Williams-BMW
Mark Webber Williams-BMW
Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas
Jarno Trulli Toyota
Ralf Schumacher Toyota
Rubens Barrichello Ferrari
Michael Schumacher Ferrari
Jenson Button BAR-Honda
Giancarlo Fisichella Renault
Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes
Fernando Alonso Renault
Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes
[b]Driver Team Time[/b]
Takuma Sato BAR-Honda 1:15.501
Christijan Albers Minardi-Cosworth 1:17.519
Robert Doornbos Minardi-Cosworth 1:18.313
Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota 1:18.599
Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota No Time
[b]Driver Team[/b]
Christian Klien Red Bull Racing
Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas
David Coulthard Red Bull Racing
Nick Heidfeld Williams-BMW
Mark Webber Williams-BMW
Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas
Jarno Trulli Toyota
Ralf Schumacher Toyota
Rubens Barrichello Ferrari
Michael Schumacher Ferrari
Jenson Button BAR-Honda
Giancarlo Fisichella Renault
Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes
Fernando Alonso Renault
Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes
[b]Driver Team Time[/b]
Takuma Sato BAR-Honda 1:15.501
Christijan Albers Minardi-Cosworth 1:17.519
Robert Doornbos Minardi-Cosworth 1:18.313
Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota 1:18.599
Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota No Time
[b]Driver Team[/b]
Christian Klien Red Bull Racing
Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas
David Coulthard Red Bull Racing
Nick Heidfeld Williams-BMW
Mark Webber Williams-BMW
Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas
Jarno Trulli Toyota
Ralf Schumacher Toyota
Rubens Barrichello Ferrari
Michael Schumacher Ferrari
Jenson Button BAR-Honda
Giancarlo Fisichella Renault
Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes
Fernando Alonso Renault
Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes
[b]Driver Team Time[/b]
Takuma Sato BAR-Honda 1:15.501
Christian Klien Red Bull Racing 1:15.634
Christijan Albers Minardi-Cosworth 1:17.519
Robert Doornbos Minardi-Cosworth 1:18.313
Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota 1:18.599
Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota No Time
[b]Driver Team[/b]
Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas
David Coulthard Red Bull Racing
Nick Heidfeld Williams-BMW
Mark Webber Williams-BMW
Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas
Jarno Trulli Toyota
Ralf Schumacher Toyota
Rubens Barrichello Ferrari
Michael Schumacher Ferrari
Jenson Button BAR-Honda
Giancarlo Fisichella Renault
Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes
Fernando Alonso Renault
Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes
[b]Driver Team Time[/b]
Takuma Sato BAR-Honda 1:15.501
Christian Klien Red Bull Racing 1:15.634
Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas 1:16.012
Christijan Albers Minardi-Cosworth 1:17.519
Robert Doornbos Minardi-Cosworth 1:18.313
Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota 1:18.599
Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota No Time
[b]Driver Team[/b]
David Coulthard Red Bull Racing
Nick Heidfeld Williams-BMW
Mark Webber Williams-BMW
Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas
Jarno Trulli Toyota
Ralf Schumacher Toyota
Rubens Barrichello Ferrari
Michael Schumacher Ferrari
Jenson Button BAR-Honda
Giancarlo Fisichella Renault
Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes
Fernando Alonso Renault
Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes
[b]Driver Team Time[/b]
Takuma Sato BAR-Honda 1:15.501
Christian Klien Red Bull Racing 1:15.634
David Coulthard Red Bull Racing 1:15.679
Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas 1:16.012
Christijan Albers Minardi-Cosworth 1:17.519
Robert Doornbos Minardi-Cosworth 1:18.313
Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota 1:18.599
Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota No Time
[b]Driver Team[/b]
Nick Heidfeld Williams-BMW
Mark Webber Williams-BMW
Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas
Jarno Trulli Toyota
Ralf Schumacher Toyota
Rubens Barrichello Ferrari
Michael Schumacher Ferrari
Jenson Button BAR-Honda
Giancarlo Fisichella Renault
Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes
Fernando Alonso Renault
Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes
[b]Driver Team Time[/b]
Nick Heidfeld Williams-BMW 1:15.403
Takuma Sato BAR-Honda 1:15.501
Christian Klien Red Bull Racing 1:15.634
David Coulthard Red Bull Racing 1:15.679
Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas 1:16.012
Christijan Albers Minardi-Cosworth 1:17.519
Robert Doornbos Minardi-Cosworth 1:18.313
Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota 1:18.599
Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota No Time
[b]Driver Team[/b]
Mark Webber Williams-BMW
Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas
Jarno Trulli Toyota
Ralf Schumacher Toyota
Rubens Barrichello Ferrari
Michael Schumacher Ferrari
Jenson Button BAR-Honda
Giancarlo Fisichella Renault
Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes
Fernando Alonso Renault
Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes