2005 German Grand Prix

10 down - 10 to go...

Qualifying results as they happen
Code: 
[b]Driver			Team			Time[/b]
Mark Webber		Williams-BMW			1:15.070
Nick Heidfeld		Williams-BMW			1:15.403
Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda			1:15.501
Christian Klien		Red Bull Racing			1:15.634
David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing			1:15.679
Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas			1:16.012
Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth		1:17.519
Robert Doornbos		Minardi-Cosworth		1:18.313
Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota			1:18.599
Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota			No Time


Running Order:
Code: 
[b]Driver			Team[/b]
Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas		
Jarno Trulli		Toyota			
Ralf Schumacher		Toyota			
Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari			
Michael Schumacher	Ferrari			
Jenson Button		BAR-Honda		
Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault			
Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes	
Fernando Alonso		Renault			
Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes
 
Qualifying results as they happen
Code: 
[b]Driver			Team			Time[/b]
Mark Webber		Williams-BMW			1:15.070
Nick Heidfeld		Williams-BMW			1:15.403
Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda			1:15.501
Christian Klien		Red Bull Racing			1:15.634
David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing			1:15.679
Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas			1:16.012
Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth		1:17.519
Robert Doornbos		Minardi-Cosworth		1:18.313
Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota			1:18.599
Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota			No Time


Running Order:
Code: 
[b]Driver			Team[/b]
Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas		
Jarno Trulli		Toyota			
Ralf Schumacher		Toyota			
Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari			
Michael Schumacher	Ferrari			
Jenson Button		BAR-Honda		
Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault			
Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes	
Fernando Alonso		Renault			
Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes


Massa on track

S1 - +0.332
S2 - +0.383

Does a 1:16.009

Ooooh...how close
 
Qualifying results as they happen
Code: 
[b]Driver			Team			Time[/b]
Mark Webber		Williams-BMW			1:15.070
Nick Heidfeld		Williams-BMW			1:15.403
Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda			1:15.501
Christian Klien		Red Bull Racing			1:15.634
David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing			1:15.679
Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas			1:16.009
Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas			1:16.012
Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth		1:17.519
Robert Doornbos		Minardi-Cosworth		1:18.313
Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota			1:18.599
Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota			No Time


Running Order:
Code: 
[b]Driver			Team[/b]
Jarno Trulli		Toyota			
Ralf Schumacher		Toyota			
Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari			
Michael Schumacher	Ferrari			
Jenson Button		BAR-Honda		
Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault			
Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes	
Fernando Alonso		Renault			
Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes


Trulli on track

S1 - +0.028
S2 - +0.012

Does a 1:15.532
 
Qualifying results as they happen
Code: 
[b]Driver			Team			Time[/b]
Mark Webber		Williams-BMW			1:15.070
Nick Heidfeld		Williams-BMW			1:15.403
Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda			1:15.501
Jarno Trulli		Toyota				1:15.532
Christian Klien		Red Bull Racing			1:15.634
David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing			1:15.679
Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas			1:16.009
Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas			1:16.012
Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth		1:17.519
Robert Doornbos		Minardi-Cosworth		1:18.313
Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota			1:18.599
Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota			No Time


Running Order:
Code: 
[b]Driver			Team[/b]
Ralf Schumacher		Toyota			
Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari			
Michael Schumacher	Ferrari			
Jenson Button		BAR-Honda		
Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault			
Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes	
Fernando Alonso		Renault			
Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes


R.Schumacher on track

S1 - +0.213
S2 - +0.218

Does a 1:15.689

Lovely shot looking back from the nose down the suspension and the sidepod.
 
Qualifying results as they happen
Code: 
[b]Driver			Team			Time[/b]
Mark Webber		Williams-BMW			1:15.070
Nick Heidfeld		Williams-BMW			1:15.403
Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda			1:15.501
Jarno Trulli		Toyota				1:15.532
Christian Klien		Red Bull Racing			1:15.634
David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing			1:15.679
Ralf Schumacher		Toyota				1:15.689
Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas			1:16.009
Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas			1:16.012
Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth		1:17.519
Robert Doornbos		Minardi-Cosworth		1:18.313
Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota			1:18.599
Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota			No Time


Running Order:
Code: 
[b]Driver			Team[/b]
Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari			
Michael Schumacher	Ferrari			
Jenson Button		BAR-Honda		
Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault			
Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes	
Fernando Alonso		Renault			
Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes


Barrichello on track

S1 - +0.136
S2 - +0.426

Does a 1:16.230

Doesn't look a happy car...
 
Qualifying results as they happen
Code: 
[b]Driver			Team			Time[/b]
Mark Webber		Williams-BMW			1:15.070
Nick Heidfeld		Williams-BMW			1:15.403
Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda			1:15.501
Jarno Trulli		Toyota				1:15.532
Christian Klien		Red Bull Racing			1:15.634
David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing			1:15.679
Ralf Schumacher		Toyota				1:15.689
Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas			1:16.009
Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas			1:16.012
Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari				1:16.230
Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth		1:17.519
Robert Doornbos		Minardi-Cosworth		1:18.313
Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota			1:18.599
Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota			No Time


Running Order:
Code: 
[b]Driver			Team[/b]

Michael Schumacher	Ferrari			
Jenson Button		BAR-Honda		
Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault			
Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes	
Fernando Alonso		Renault			
Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes


M.Schumacher on track

S1 - +0.046
S2 - -0.081

Does a 1:15.006

That has to be light...thats the fastest lap he's done all weekend.
 
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15 down - 5 to go...

Qualifying results as they happen
Code: 
[b]Driver			Team			Time[/b]
Michael Schumacher	Ferrari				1:15.006
Mark Webber		Williams-BMW			1:15.070
Nick Heidfeld		Williams-BMW			1:15.403
Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda			1:15.501
Jarno Trulli		Toyota				1:15.532
Christian Klien		Red Bull Racing			1:15.634
David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing			1:15.679
Ralf Schumacher		Toyota				1:15.689
Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas			1:16.009
Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas			1:16.012
Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari				1:16.230
Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth		1:17.519
Robert Doornbos		Minardi-Cosworth		1:18.313
Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota			1:18.599
Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota			No Time


Running Order:
Code: 
[b]Driver			Team[/b]
Jenson Button		BAR-Honda		
Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault			
Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes	
Fernando Alonso		Renault			
Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes
 
Qualifying results as they happen
Code: 
[b]Driver			Team			Time[/b]
Michael Schumacher	Ferrari				1:15.006
Mark Webber		Williams-BMW			1:15.070
Nick Heidfeld		Williams-BMW			1:15.403
Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda			1:15.501
Jarno Trulli		Toyota				1:15.532
Christian Klien		Red Bull Racing			1:15.634
David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing			1:15.679
Ralf Schumacher		Toyota				1:15.689
Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas			1:16.009
Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas			1:16.012
Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari				1:16.230
Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth		1:17.519
Robert Doornbos		Minardi-Cosworth		1:18.313
Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota			1:18.599
Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota			No Time


Running Order:
Code: 
[b]Driver			Team[/b]
Jenson Button		BAR-Honda		
Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault			
Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes	
Fernando Alonso		Renault			
Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes


Button on track

S1 - -0.081
S2 - -0.320

Does a very good 1:14.759

Beautifully driven
 
Qualifying results as they happen
Code: 
[b]Driver			Team			Time[/b]
Jenson Button		BAR-Honda			1:14.759
Michael Schumacher	Ferrari				1:15.006
Mark Webber		Williams-BMW			1:15.070
Nick Heidfeld		Williams-BMW			1:15.403
Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda			1:15.501
Jarno Trulli		Toyota				1:15.532
Christian Klien		Red Bull Racing			1:15.634
David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing			1:15.679
Ralf Schumacher		Toyota				1:15.689
Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas			1:16.009
Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas			1:16.012
Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari				1:16.230
Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth		1:17.519
Robert Doornbos		Minardi-Cosworth		1:18.313
Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota			1:18.599
Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota			No Time


Running Order:
Code: 
[b]Driver			Team[/b]
Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault			
Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes	
Fernando Alonso		Renault			
Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes


Fisichella on track

S1 - -0.043
S2 - +0.133

Does a 1:14.927
 
Qualifying results as they happen
Code: 
[b]Driver			Team			Time[/b]
Jenson Button		BAR-Honda			1:14.759
Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault				1:14.927
Michael Schumacher	Ferrari				1:15.006
Mark Webber		Williams-BMW			1:15.070
Nick Heidfeld		Williams-BMW			1:15.403
Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda			1:15.501
Jarno Trulli		Toyota				1:15.532
Christian Klien		Red Bull Racing			1:15.634
David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing			1:15.679
Ralf Schumacher		Toyota				1:15.689
Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas			1:16.009
Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas			1:16.012
Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari				1:16.230
Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth		1:17.519
Robert Doornbos		Minardi-Cosworth		1:18.313
Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota			1:18.599
Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota			No Time


Running Order:
Code: 
[b]Driver			Team[/b]

Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes	
Fernando Alonso		Renault			
Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes


Raikkonen on track

S1 - -0.138
S2 - -0.332

Does a 1:14.320

Looks absolutely superb though - he has matured so much...great slide as well while flat out...
 
Qualifying results as they happen
Code: 
[b]Driver			Team			Time[/b]
Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes		1:14.320
Jenson Button		BAR-Honda			1:14.759
Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault				1:14.927
Michael Schumacher	Ferrari				1:15.006
Mark Webber		Williams-BMW			1:15.070
Nick Heidfeld		Williams-BMW			1:15.403
Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda			1:15.501
Jarno Trulli		Toyota				1:15.532
Christian Klien		Red Bull Racing			1:15.634
David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing			1:15.679
Ralf Schumacher		Toyota				1:15.689
Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas			1:16.009
Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas			1:16.012
Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari				1:16.230
Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth		1:17.519
Robert Doornbos		Minardi-Cosworth		1:18.313
Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota			1:18.599
Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota			No Time


Running Order:
Code: 
[b]Driver			Team[/b]

Fernando Alonso		Renault			
Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes


Alonso on track

S1 - +0.373
S2 - +0.429

Does a 1:14.904

Alonso looked like he was taking it easier - possibly a heavy 3 stop or maybe even a 2 stop..
 
Qualifying results as they happen
Code: 
[b]Driver			Team			Time[/b]
Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes		1:14.320
Jenson Button		BAR-Honda			1:14.759
Fernando Alonso		Renault				1:14.904
Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault				1:14.927
Michael Schumacher	Ferrari				1:15.006
Mark Webber		Williams-BMW			1:15.070
Nick Heidfeld		Williams-BMW			1:15.403
Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda			1:15.501
Jarno Trulli		Toyota				1:15.532
Christian Klien		Red Bull Racing			1:15.634
David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing			1:15.679
Ralf Schumacher		Toyota				1:15.689
Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas			1:16.009
Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas			1:16.012
Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari				1:16.230
Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth		1:17.519
Robert Doornbos		Minardi-Cosworth		1:18.313
Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota			1:18.599
Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota			No Time


Running Order:
Code: 
[b]Driver			Team[/b]
Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes


Montoya on track

S1 - -0.009
S2 - +0.096

Montoya spins in the last corner and throws it into the barriers..

Was going to be a good lap as well

Going to keep the McLaren guys busy - rear right mashed...front right damaged...wings...sidepod
 
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Qualifying.
Code: 
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Team			Time[/b]
1	9	Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes	1:14.320		
2	3	Jenson Button		BAR-Honda		1:14.759		
3	5	Fernando Alonso		Renault			1:14.904		
4	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault			1:14.927		
5	1	Michael Schumacher	Ferrari			1:15.006		
6	7	Mark Webber		Williams-BMW		1:15.070		
7	8	Nick Heidfeld		Williams-BMW		1:15.403		
8	4	Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda		1:15.501		
9	16	Jarno Trulli		Toyota			1:15.532		
10	15	Christian Klien		Red Bull Racing		1:15.635		
11	14	David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing		1:15.679		
12	17	Ralf Schumacher		Toyota			1:15.689		
13	12	Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas		1:16.009		
14	11	Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas		1:16.012		
15	2	Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari			1:16.230		
16	21	Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth	1:17.519		
17	20	Robert Doornbos		Minardi-Cosworth	1:18.313		
18	18	Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota		1:18.599		
19	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes	No Time - Accident			
20	19	Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota		No Time - Retired

Sector Times

Code: 
[b]Sector 1[/b]
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time[/b]
1	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	16.340 		 
2	9	Kimi Räikkönen		16.349 
3	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	16.444 
4	4	Takuma Sato		16.453 
5	3	Jenson Button		16.487 
6	7	Mark Webber		16.522 
7	11	Jacques Villeneuve	16.540 
8	16	Jarno Trulli		16.550 
9	1	Michael Schumacher	16.568 
10	8	Nick Heidfeld		16.609 
11	14	David Coulthard		16.627 
12	2	Rubens Barrichello	16.658 
13	15	Christian Klien		16.674 
14	17	Ralf Schumacher		16.713 
15	5	Fernando Alonso		16.722 
16	12	Felipe Massa		16.854 
17	21	Christijan Albers	17.015 
18	20	Robert Doornbos		17.088 
19	18	Tiago Monteiro		17.322 
20	19	Narain Karthikeyan	17.613

Code: 
[b]Sector 2 [/b]
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time[/b]
1	9	Kimi Räikkönen		34.974 
2	5	Fernando Alonso		35.030 
3	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	35.079 
4	3	Jenson Button		35.169 
5	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	35.344 
6	1	Michael Schumacher	35.409 
7	15	Christian Klien		35.507 
8	16	Jarno Trulli		35.520 
9	7	Mark Webber		35.536 
10	8	Nick Heidfeld		35.538 
11	14	David Coulthard		35.561 
12	17	Ralf Schumacher		35.563 
13	12	Felipe Massa		35.587 
14	4	Takuma Sato		35.796 
15	2	Rubens Barrichello	35.826 
16	11	Jacques Villeneuve	35.839 
17	21	Christijan Albers	36.213 
18	20	Robert Doornbos		36.773 
19	18	Tiago Monteiro		36.773 
20	19	Narain Karthikeyan	36.891

Code: 
[b]Sector 3 [/b]
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time[/b]
1	9	Kimi Räikkönen		22.997 
2	7	Mark Webber		23.012 
3	1	Michael Schumacher	23.029 
4	3	Jenson Button		23.103 
5	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	23.139 
6	5	Fernando Alonso		23.152 
7	4	Takuma Sato		23.252 
8	8	Nick Heidfeld		23.256 
9	17	Ralf Schumacher		23.413 
10	15	Christian Klien		23.454 
11	16	Jarno Trulli		23.462 
12	14	David Coulthard		23.491 
13	12	Felipe Massa		23.568 
14	11	Jacques Villeneuve	23.633 
15	2	Rubens Barrichello	23.746 
16	21	Christijan Albers	24.291 
17	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	24.301 
18	20	Robert Doornbos		24.452 
19	18	Tiago Monteiro		24.504 
20	19	Narain Karthikeyan	24.614

Speed Trap

Code: 
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time		Speed[/b]
1	5	Fernando Alonso		13:42:14	323.7 
2	9	Kimi Räikkönen		13:40:34	323.1 
3	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	13:43:52	322.8 
4	16	Jarno Trulli		13:26:22	322.1 
5	11	Jacques Villeneuve	13:14:42	319.5 
6	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	13:38:54	319.4 
7	14	David Coulthard		13:16:23	319.3 
8	12	Felipe Massa		13:24:46	319.2 
9	17	Ralf Schumacher		13:28:19	318.8 
10	1	Michael Schumacher	13:32:27	318.6 
11	15	Christian Klien		13:12:53	317.9 
12	3	Jenson Button		13:37:13	317.7 
13	21	Christijan Albers	13:04:55	317.0 
14	19	Narain Karthikeyan	13:03:26	315.7 
15	8	Nick Heidfeld		13:18:08	315.6 
16	4	Takuma Sato		13:08:08	315.4 
17	2	Rubens Barrichello	13:30:24	315.3 
18	20	Robert Doornbos		13:01:50	312.9 
19	7	Mark Webber		13:19:56	312.3 
20	18	Tiago Monteiro		13:06:23	312.1

Well done Raikkonen - Shame about Montoya..

Button up on the front row again. Good to see - I hope he'll finish on the podium this time..

Alonso - slower than expected - possibly heavier fuelled than those around him?

1 Ferrari is light - the other is heavy...see if you can guess which is which. :D
 
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Aaaaaand the winner is...

Proposal 2 - lose 5 after 15 mins, lose another 5 after another 15 mins...then shootout..

It's best of a bad bunch...

Oh..and the competition sounds good. Spa 24.. :D

Answer - C: Jordan...

Simon/~Flibster
 
My Mum must have thought I was dying when Montoya spun off. Massive cry, "Nnnnnnnnnnoooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!1oneone!" Head in hands, must have been nearly as gutted as he was...

Dunno, why but I'm really supporting Montoya this season, just isn't going well for him. Hopefully he can pull out a decent performance tomorrow, and at least it will be good watching him carve the field.
 
There's quite obviously a bit of tension between Dennis and Montoya at present, and you got a small sense of it with their interviews after qualifying.

Montoya waffled on about the car being twitchy and understeering, effectively blaming the car for the off. He then said that he wasn't interested in points he just wanted to win. Dennis didn't hesitate, however, in blaming Montoya for the off and saying it was driver error.

I can see Dennis having some problems with Montoya during the rest of the season. McLaren need him to play a support role to Kimi and help them win the championships. He obviously doesn't give a toss and is out for himself.
 
I think there is something in what Montoya was saying about the car because Kimi was sideways at the same point but managed to save it.

Although if Montoya was ahead of Kimi, how does Mclaren go about getting Montoya behind Kimi as team orders are not allowed?
 
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I think there is something in what Montoya was saying about the car because Kimi was sideways at the same point but managed to save it.

Although if Montoya was ahead of Kimi, how does Mclaren go about getting Montoya behind Kimi as team orders are not allowed?
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I think the cars are set up for the race rather than qualifying..

The oversteer will go away in the race.

Extended pit stop is the easiest - or later in the race telling him to ease off due to brake issues *Ferrari special that one...*

Hundreds of ways..

Simon/~Flibster
 
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