2005 Italian Grand Prix

gsf600y said:
What sort of speed difference compared to F1 cars will the A1 GP cars have?
Looking at the A1GP calendar, it looks like we'll have to wait til Sepang in November to see 2005 laptime differences.

Paul Ricard Test times..... dunno how they stack up against F1???
1 USA 1.24.177 - SCOTT SPEED
2 FRANCE 1.24.392 - ALEX PREMAT
3 BRAZIL 1.24.574 - NELSON PIQUET JR
4 NEW ZEALAND 1.24.590 - JONNY REID
5 PORTUGAL 1.24.738 - ALVARO PARENTE
6 IRELAND 1.24.772 - RALPH FIRMAN
7 NETHERLANDS 1.24.879 - JOS VERSTAPPEN
8 SWITZERLAND 1.24.895 - ROMAIN GROSJEAN
9 MALAYSIA 1.24.987 - FAIRUZ FAUZY
10 LEBANON 1.25.012 - KALIL BESCHIR
11 GREAT BRITAIN 1.25.104 - ROBBIE KERR
12 GERMANY 1.25.211 - TIMO SCHEIDER
13 PAKISTAN 1.25.374 - ADAM KHAN
14 SOUTH AFRICA 1.25.757 - STEPHEN SIMPSON
15 MEXICO 1.25.891 - SALVADOR DURAN
16 INDONESIA 1.26.655 - ANANDA MIKOLA
17 INDIA 1.26.959 - KARUN CHANDOK
18 AUSTRALIA 1.26.990 - CHRISTIAN JONES
19 RUSSIA 1.27.942 - ALEXEY VASILIEV
20 CHINA 1.28.202 - TENG YI JIANG
 
gsf600y said:
What sort of speed difference compared to F1 cars will the A1 GP cars have?
Looking at the A1GP calendar, it looks like we'll have to wait til Sepang in November to see 2005 laptime differences.

The speed difference will be quite large, the engine is a 3.4litre V8 which pushes out 520bhp or 550 with the "boost button" in a car weighing 600kg without fuel or driver. By comparision F1 runs approx 900bhp in 550kg plus driver (I think).

A1GP is on full slicks but it's a control tyre so there may be less mechanical grip than F1, there's no real detail on aerodynamics but they've been designed to run closely which would suggest underbody aero. How the levels of downforce / drag compare will have a bearing on the relative speeds.

Having seen both running at Goodwood I would say that the A1GP car is noticably slower but it's far from a scientific comparision.
 
More news you say???

Hilton to sponsor WilliamsF1?

There are reports that Hilton International, the global hotel group, is on the verge of announcing a significant sponsorship deal with WilliamsF1 for 2006.

At a time when there is talk, much of it groundless, of sponsors abandoning the Grove team and opting to stick with BMW, the Hilton deal will be mighty encouraging.

According to reports, new chief executive at Hilton International, Ian Carter, has inked the deal with the nine-time Constructors' Championship winners, the company's first global sponsorship deal.

The thought that Paris Hilton, heiress to the company, and well-known socialite, might be on-board, could well convince Jenson Button that his future lies with the Grove team after all.
 
Heidfeld is BMW's top choice
German ace Nick Heidfeld is at the top of BMW's list to drive for the new works team next year.

Motorsport director, and probable 2006 team principal Mario Theissen, admitted that 'very constructive discussions' are taking place between Williams' 28-year-old and the Munich based manufacturer.

''We are talking with several drivers,'' the German admitted to Sport1.de, ''and Nick is one of them.

''He is someone who we would love to have in the team.''

A crucial piece of the puzzle, though, is whether Sir Frank Williams takes up an option on the driver's service. If so, he'll be committed to the Grove based squad.

Theissen also said BMW feel under no pressure to immediately decide the 2006 lineup.
 
Mansell to Compete in the GP Masters series

1992 World Champion Nigel Mansell will contest the new Grand Prix Masters series, which gets underway in South Africa (Kyalami) in November.

The one-make series has already attracted a number of former F1 World Champions, including Alain Prost, Emerson Fittipaldi and Alan Jones. Other Grand Prix greats such as Riccardo Patrese and Rene Arnoux have also signed up.

Speaking to Pitpass on Wednesday, a spokesman for the series revealed that getting Mansell on board for the series was a major coup, as in addition to having signed a three-year deal to drive in the series, Mansell will also act as an ambassador for the championship.

The cars, being built by Delta Motorsport, in Northamptonshire, England, will be powered by the Nicholson McLaren Cosworth engine, based on the highly successful Cosworth XB Indycar unit, and will produce in excess of 600bhp and reach speeds of around 200mph.

Former WilliamsF1 and Jaguar media manager, Nav Sidhu, now working with Grand Prix Masters told Pitpass that the series was looking to provide "NASCAR style entertainment" for fans of single-seaters, promising "real racing" and "allowing fans total access".

All drivers who contest the series must be over 45 and have competed in F1 for two complete seasons. Furthermore, they must have retired from F1 for at least 2 years.

For his many fans, Mansell's decision to return to the sport will be warmly welcomed, as he is still regarded as one of the great racers.

In recent times the Birmingham born racer has concentrated on his true love, golf, though he has been linked with a number of F1 projects including a consortium that was thought to be seeking to purchase Silverstone and the rights to the British Grand Prix.
 
Teams meet with Mosley

Little is being said about yesterday's meeting, in Milan, between the team bosses of the teams contesting the World Championship and FIA President, Max Mosley.

The talks, all part of the process to re-shape Formula One after the current Concorde Agreement runs out, at the end of 2007, are said to have been "positive", "tranquil" and "constructive", depend on who you listen to.

Meanwhile, behind the scenes the struggle continues, with Formula One, as we know it, only assured of three teams at present in 2008, Ferrari, Red Bull and Midland (Jordan).

The teams are also involved in talks with the Grand Prix Manufacturers Association, set up by BMW, DaimlerChrysler, Honda, Renault and Toyota.

At present we appear to be watching the long drawn out opening gambit in a very high powered game, and though the stakes are high, and the risks enormous, those involved are doing all that they can to persuade the rest of us that it is business as usual and that there is nothing to worry about when it comes to the future of our sport.

Elsewhere, Bernie Ecclestone rejects claims that SLEC, or even a slice of it, is up for sale, dismissing talks of consortiums and buy outs. Yet one has to wonder who gains most from 'leaking' such stories in the first place.

Max Mosley will be at Monza this weekend, and is scheduled to host a press conference on Friday. He will also, no doubt, hold further talks with the teams.
 
And finally....

The TV Schedule...

Italian GP on ITV1 and ITV2

Live qualifying: Saturday 3 September 1130-1310 (ITV1)

Live race: Sunday 4 September 1200-1500 (ITV1)
Highlights: Monday 5 September 0030-0125 (ITV1)
Highlights: Tuesday 6 September 0145-0235 (ITV2)
Race replay: Wednesday 7 September 0150-0430 (ITV1)
 
Only one new EJ15B, entrusted to Monteiro

After three days of private testing last week where it did not encounter even the smallest problem, the Jordan Grand Prix team has headed to Italy for round fifteen on the 2005 agenda with fresh hopes as the first car to be developed at the Silverstone based factory, under the 2005 aero rules and regulations will finally make it’s race debut in this weekend’s Italian Grand Prix.

However, at this stage just one new EJ15B chassis is available and that has been entrusted to the rookie driver who has completed every race this season, Tiago Monteiro. The Portuguese driver is thrilled that he will have the new car for the ‘temple of speed’ as he is confident that the new version is definitely faster.

"It is always difficult to switch over from a version than you have controlled for a long time, but I think that we will be faster with the EJ15B. We will gain in the braking department - where the car has always been a little nervous – and also in the entry and exit of the corners, thanks to better stability. The laps carried out last week at Monza were held without the smallest issue and therefore our moral has been boosted!" he smiles.

At Monza, where 70% of the lap takes place with their foot to the floor, to have a reliable and powerful engine is an asset for any driver and Tiago knows he can count on Toyota in this department.

"My problems in Hungary means when I changed engines means that I can head into Monza with a fresh one, which is always a positive factor on such a fast layout," he explains. “Last week, we tested as many tyres that Bridgestone could give us and I think that they will be competitive in Italy"
 
And Schumacher misses the point again....

F1 Too Expensive, Says Schumacher

World Champion Michael Schumacher has bemoaned the high cost of Grand Prix racing and believes it is preventing new teams from entering the fray, a German newspaper reported on Thursday.

"Formula One must become cheaper to motivate new teams to join," Handelsblatt quoted Schumacher as saying in a preview of its Friday edition.

"We currently have 10 teams but we once had a lot more. If it has become too expensive for many people then something is wrong," the seven-times World Champion told the paper before Sunday's Italian Grand Prix at Monza.

Schumacher said a tightening of the rules on technology had failed to achieve its cost-cutting goal.

"We have a fundamental problem. Let's take the seemingly helpful rule that a motor must last for an entire race. Clearly, that saves money. But the teams that want to win of course will take that money and invest it in other areas to glean an advantage there," he told Handelsblatt.

"You can prevent senseless investments in materials but you can't stop the money from being used in other areas."

Cost cutting is easy, for example, only test at one circuit at a time, only test for 30 days per year. You know the things everyone bar Ferrari is already doing.
 
rpstewart said:
And Schumacher misses the point again....

Cost cutting is easy, for example, only test at one circuit at a time, only test for 30 days per year. You know the things everyone bar Ferrari is already doing.

Also - use the race and t-cars for testing - no seperate test team..

You missed another thing...

Don't pay drivers $50'000'000 a year... ;)

Simon/~Flibster
 
Just got another email from my matey...

Alledgedly it's McLaren not Williams who have struck a deal with Hilton Hotels...

Still - really don't want to see Paris Hilton at a F1 race...

Simon/~Flibster
 
And...Scott Speed is a F1 driver...

Scott Speed to take test role with Red Bull

Red Bull Racing announced today that it has extended its current contract with Scott Speed, America's most promising Formula 1 hope. Under the new agreement, the 22-year-old Californian will become a test driver for the team for the 2006 season, with performance- related options for the future.

Currently lying third in the 2005 GP2 series, Scott has shown impressive pace this year, aboard both GP2 and Formula 1 racing cars. His strong performance as Red Bull Racing's third driver in the 2005 Montreal and Indianapolis Grands Prix, has been further reinforced by the natural speed he's shown when completing various testing duties for the team.

A product of the 2003 Red Bull American Formula 1 driver search, Scott began his career like many other motorsport drivers, behind the wheel of a kart. Taking his first national championship in 1995, he quickly rose through the ranks, winning a number of national titles before Red Bull selected him to contest a handful of British Formula 3 events in 2003. The following year, Scott won the Formula Renault Championships in both Germany and Europe, before moving to the GP2 series in 2005.

Speed ran the third RB1 in Montreal and Indy

Red Bull Racing Sporting Director, Christian Horner commented, "It was a natural decision to extend Scott's contract for 2006. We've been impressed with what he's achieved in GP2 this year, and the pace he has shown in tests and when driving the team's third car in Canada and Indianapolis is a strong indication of his potential.

"Scott's role will be very important as the team develops next year. He's one of the strongest drivers to come out of the USA for a long time and we're pleased to be able to give him the opportunity to demonstrate his potential within Formula 1.

"His progression from karting championships to Formula 1 demonstrates the benefit of the Red Bull American Formula 1 drivers search. Offering support and advice, the programme is geared towards helping talented USA drivers like Scott, into Formula 1 and opening up opportunities that might otherwise not have been available."

Scott Speed commented, "Obviously, I'm extremely pleased that Red Bull Racing has decided to extend my contract. This season has been very good for me and to take this step forward with Red Bull Racing for next year and hopefully beyond is a great opportunity. My aim has always been to race in Formula 1, it's my dream and this makes it much more of a reality. I've still got a hell of a lot to learn, but with the team around me and with David Coulthard as one of my team-mates, I'm in the best place to be able to do that."

Press Release
Red Bull Racing

So F1 in Spring, Summer and Autumn..A1GP in Autumn, Winter and Spring...

Busy boy...
 
Friday Session 1 gets underway...

Track Temp - 32°C and climbing
Air Temp - 29°C and climbing
Dry track
Light Breeze blowing from left to right across the pit straight
Humidity - 59%
 
20 mins to go.

De La Rosa way out in front - on a 1:22.122 - 1.426 ahead of Zonta in 2nd place

Track temp 36°C and climbing
Air Temp 30°C
Wind direction is now blowing right to left across the main straight.
Still only a light breeze though.
 
Just read this...

http://www.formula1.com/race/news/3507/746.html said:
Remembering Ronnie - why Monza will never forget the super Swede...

The fearsome reputation that the original Monza circuit enjoyed was well deserved - in addition to spectacular racing, the Italian track was also the scene for many horrendous accidents.

In 1928, with the circuit barely six years old, a terrible crash saw both Emilio Materassi and 27 spectators die after his Talbot ploughed into a grandstand. In 1933 no fewer than three top-flight Grand Prix drivers died in a single weekend there (the Czech aristocrat Count Czaykowski, also Italians Giuseppe Campari and Baconin Borzacchini). Both Alberto Ascari and Wolfgang Von Trips were killed there, the Italian while testing in 1955 and the German after a crash with Jim Clark sent him cartwheeling into the crowd, killing himself and 13 spectators.

And by the 1970s, as Formula One racing entered what would prove to be its most dangerous phase, Monza was the scene for more tragedy. First came the death of Jochen Rindt in 1970 after a massive crash at the Parabolica (and while leading the world championship). And then, in 1978, another tragic loss - that of Ronnie Peterson.

Despite being a quiet man when not racing, Ronnie Peterson was one of Formula One racing's most exuberant characters on the track - famous for the spectacular car control that allowed him to drive the fearsomely fast machines of the day considerably beyond their natural limits. The Swedish driver made his mark in spectacular style when he switched from the March to Lotus teams in 1973, winning four Grands Prix that year and three more in 1974. In 1976, driving for March again, he had won the Italian Grand Prix at Monza from an eighth place grid position after a hard-fought race saw him cross the line 2.3 seconds ahead of Clay Regazzoni's Ferrari.

By 1978 Peterson had rejoined the Lotus team and, with the ultra-competitive ‘ground-effect’ Lotus 79, he and team-mate Mario Andretti were dominating the season. By the time they got to Monza, Peterson had already claimed victories in South Africa and Austria and Andretti had taken six wins and was well on the way to taking the drivers' championship.

At Monza, Andretti sat on pole position, but Peterson had been forced to qualify the older Lotus 78 after mechanical gremlins struck, and was down in fifth place. His position in the middle of the pack was to prove disastrous. As the race began, Riccardo Patrese and James Hunt touched as they raced for position in the run up to the first corner - with the Englishman's McLaren then clipping Peterson's car and sending him into a heavy collision with the barriers. Before anything could be done Vittorio Brambilla's Surtees, starting from the back of the pack, had run into the wreckage of Peterson's car, the Lotus instantly bursting into flames.

James Hunt heroically pulled Peterson from the burning car. The Swede's legs were very badly broken and he had suffered from mild burns, but his condition did not appear to be life-threatening. The confused rescue response led to a delay before an ambulance arrived, but then Peterson was quickly transferred to the track's medical centre and then onwards by helicopter to hospital - where x-rays showed his legs were broken in 27 places. Surgeons operated to pin the broken bones back together and, by the evening, he was reportedly stable and facing what would have been a long recovery.

Disaster struck early the following morning when Peterson was killed by an embolism - fat from his damaged legs blocking blood circulation and starving his brain of oxygen. The shock throughout the Formula One world was intensified by Peterson's reportedly stable condition the night before - and the sport fell into mourning for one of its great lost talents.

Yet some good did come from this horrific misfortune. Peterson's death was one of the critical milestones in improving the safety of Formula One racing. Medical intervention was improved under the direction of Professor Sid Watkins, with the principle of the medical car introduced. Marshalling and fire-fighting procedures were also reformed, while the impact protection of cars also benefited from increased emphasis.

The tragedy being, of course, that Peterson never got to benefit from any of the reforms his untimely death brought about.

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That's a well written piece, thanks for posting it Flibster.

It's a shame that we never had the chance to see Ronnie going head to head with Gilles Villeneuve in 79 when they would both have had half decent cars.
 
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